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According to today's telewag, Pearson will only get banned for one game rather than three, does anyone know why this is?
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I think I just heard JT say 3 match ban if booked again.
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I find it ridiculous that a player should sit out 5 games in a season due to 15 bookings. Bookings are part and parcel of the game (admittedly a large amount of Pearson's are for dissent which is inexcusable) and they are for punishment at point of offence. Basically, a warning to say 'do that again and you're off and you'll get a suspension'. If you don't commit another offence worthy of a second yellow then that should be the end of it, unless it's for reoccurring offences such as 'diving' or dissent.
That's the thing with suspensions too. They're not only a punishment for the player and the club involved, they also give advantages to teams for whom no offences were committed against, whilst the player serves his suspension. This is why I'd be in favour of trialling sin bins for yellow cards, with no retrospective suspensions for accumulation of bookings. If the punishment was immediate I'm sure Shaun would keep his mouth shut more often.
Pearson hasn't been included in today's team to prevent him from picking up a yellow card. Now if we go to Braintree needing a result Hurst would probably bring Pearson back in. Imagine Pearson then picks up a yellow card for an innocuous foul and misses the play-offs. We'd have then essentially lost him for 4 out of the last 5 games in addition to the earlier served two match ban.
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It's the same for everyone though. Not everyone gets that many bookings. A lot of them are to deny the opposition a chance on goal so failure to punish them would encourage even more cheating (which it is) then you get now.
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To deny the opposition an immediate goal scoring opportunity is a red. All yellows are not for "cheating". So you agree that a player should miss 5 games for being booked, on average, every 2.5-3 games?
If the bans were explicitly for an accumulation of cards due to dissent then that would be a different matter. Need more respect in the game.
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There's no justification for a player collecting 15 cards over a season. See no problem with that cumulatively leading to a player missing a decent few games.
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There's no justification for a player collecting 15 cards over a season. See no problem with that cumulatively leading to a player missing a decent few games.
Not if they're largely for dissent, you're right. Which, as I said I would have no problem the player being 'cited' for, as long as it was explicitly for lack of respect to the referee. Most other yellows are par for the course in game situations, no? Cut dissent out and I imagine Pearson would have less than 10.
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Are the bookings wiped clean for the play-offs? So, for example, if Pearson got booked at Braintree, would that suspend him for all (possible) 3 play-off games, or would he be ok?
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I find it ridiculous that a player should sit out 5 games in a season due to 15 bookings. Bookings are part and parcel of the game (admittedly a large amount of Pearson's are for dissent which is inexcusable) and they are for punishment at point of offence. Basically, a warning to say 'do that again and you're off and you'll get a suspension'. If you don't commit another offence worthy of a second yellow then that should be the end of it, unless it's for reoccurring offences such as 'diving' or dissent.
That's the thing with suspensions too. They're not only a punishment for the player and the club involved, they also give advantages to teams for whom no offences were committed against, whilst the player serves his suspension. This is why I'd be in favour of trialling sin bins for yellow cards, with no retrospective suspensions for accumulation of bookings. If the punishment was immediate I'm sure Shaun would keep his mouth shut more often.
Pearson hasn't been included in today's team to prevent him from picking up a yellow card. Now if we go to Braintree needing a result Hurst would probably bring Pearson back in. Imagine Pearson then picks up a yellow card for an innocuous foul and misses the play-offs. We'd have then essentially lost him for 4 out of the last 5 games in addition to the earlier served two match ban.
It is an interesting argument. And not sure what side of it I sit in. I agree with all your points, but The problem with yellow cards in football equalling a sin bin is that it is very easy to earn a yellow card- our game against alfreton, 6 players would of been sin bined. So you would then have to change what a yellow card offence was, which would be a big change in direction for the FA
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It is perhaps slightly unfair that a booking in the play offs could mean a player missing the final.
If someone has 15 cautions in say, 25 league games he is going some but if he plays every league games, say 10 cup games and then gets in the play offs his record isnt nearly as bad but the punishment remains the same.
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