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If you all got the intercourse off John-Lewis' back then maybe he'd start scoring? You know, not feeling quite under so much pressure? The fishy really is full of complete and utter fucktards these days.
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If you all got the intercourse off John-Lewis' back then maybe he'd start scoring? You know, not feeling quite under so much pressure? The fishy really is full of complete and utter fucktards these days.
Get off his back ? He's a grown bloke for gods sake, He is employed by GTFC to score goals which he isn't doing. Any striker in this country will get stick from the fans if they're not doing what they're employed to do. If he or anyone else for that matter, cannot take the criticism when it comes his way, and justifiably at the moment, then they might as well pack up and go home. It's criticism, and everybody gets it from time to time, and for another poster to suggest that LJL is a hate figure is also just as ridiculous. Of course he's not hated. When you're employed as a striker there's only one way to get people off your back. UTM |
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It is hard to argue with the stats that LJL has a better record over the past couple of years than Connell, but as mentioned previously one is loved and welcomed back as a hero and the other a whipping boy/ hate figure. We are all welcome to our opinions but where and when you voice them can be counter productive. Vocally at a game it should be nothing but 100% praising our players, including our strikers. I am not aware of any professional suddenly becoming better because a loudmouth from the stands states he is SH!T. There is no crisis and absolutely no need to panic, realism please fellow fishies, we are nowhere near full strength not playing our best but it is a long old season, and no I don't think we are champions material and I feel some are deluded with their expectations on here assuming we should be. Play offs would be a huge achievement again this year and players like LJL have shown in the past that they can play an active part in a team capable of achieving this.
Well, for one, I posted on several occasions that I didn't want Connell back and for two, LJL isn't exactly a new kid on the block, we've seen his limitations for 18 months now and I seriously don't believe that you can base an attacking threat around someone who is clearly a less that prolific goalscorer. Even when we are full strength, as you put it, LJL will be one of the first names on the team sheet. I'm not going to boo him, abuse him, shout at him or any of that, but I am, like you a GTFC supporter, and perfectly entitled to have an opinion! |
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Get off his back ?
He's a grown bloke for gods sake, He is employed by GTFC to score goals which he isn't doing.
Any striker in this country will get stick from the fans if they're not doing what they're employed to do.
If he or anyone else for that matter, cannot take the criticism when it comes his way, and justifiably at the moment, then they might as well pack up and go home.
It's criticism, and everybody gets it from time to time, and for another poster to suggest that LJL is a hate figure is also just as ridiculous. Of course he's not hated.
When you're employed as a striker there's only one way to get people off your back.
UTM
It's not a case of "taking criticism" or not. The constant sniping, moaning, booing and groaning at games could drain any player of confidence and as 98 says, put added unnecessary pressure on a player. And a player low on confidence generally won't play nearly as well as if they were high on confidence. I'd also suggest that LJL isn't just "employed by GTFC to score goals". He's also there to contribute to team play and offer us an outlet going forward so the ball doesn't keep coming back at us. I do wonder what Livvo would have had to put up with had he played in this social media and internet forum era. He seemed to me at the time to be a Town hero to most, yet he never scored more than 10 goals in a season, and only actually got to 10 once. It's very rare for both strikers in a front 2 to be prolific scorers. |
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If you all got the intercourse off John-Lewis' back then maybe he'd start scoring? You know, not feeling quite under so much pressure? The fishy really is full of complete and utter fucktards these days.
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It is hard to argue with the stats that LJL has a better record over the past couple of years than Connell, but as mentioned previously one is loved and welcomed back as a hero and the other a whipping boy/ hate figure. We are all welcome to our opinions but where and when you voice them can be counter productive. Vocally at a game it should be nothing but 100% praising our players, including our strikers. I am not aware of any professional suddenly becoming better because a loudmouth from the stands states he is SH!T. There is no crisis and absolutely no need to panic, realism please fellow fishies, we are nowhere near full strength not playing our best but it is a long old season, and no I don't think we are champions material and I feel some are deluded with their expectations on here assuming we should be. Play offs would be a huge achievement again this year and players like LJL have shown in the past that they can play an active part in a team capable of achieving this.
Eh up thats a bit harsh mate, he`s not either of these, just a figure of conversation regarding his open goal misses, Pittman cannot replace him as a battering ram, he`s not strong enough and not that sort of player perhaps Cook was, until we find another or change our system John Lewis will be first choice mainly because he is the best we have playing the system we do |
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Connell's record isn't much better over his career. The only time he's scored goals regularly was his season with us and he doesn't seem the same player now.
Bit early to decide that, he's not match fit and has shown a couple of quality touches, I really think he will start banging them in when the wingers are fit |
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Bit early to decide that, he's not match fit and has shown a couple of quality touches, I really think he will start banging them in when the wingers are fit
Yeah true, was a hasty judgement to make. Certainly not fit yet or sharp yet and not getting the sort of service we hope he'll be getting soon. Fingers crossed he'll come good but if not, I think we'll be relying on Arnold and/or Pittman for goals. |
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It is hard to argue with the stats that LJL has a better record over the past couple of years than Connell, but as mentioned previously one is loved and welcomed back as a hero and the other a whipping boy/ hate figure. We are all welcome to our opinions but where and when you voice them can be counter productive. Vocally at a game it should be nothing but 100% praising our players, including our strikers. I am not aware of any professional suddenly becoming better because a loudmouth from the stands states he is SH!T. There is no crisis and absolutely no need to panic, realism please fellow fishies, we are nowhere near full strength not playing our best but it is a long old season, and no I don't think we are champions material and I feel some are deluded with their expectations on here assuming we should be. Play offs would be a huge achievement again this year and players like LJL have shown in the past that they can play an active part in a team capable of achieving this.
Realistically that is correct. The trouble is that it seems to be the limit of the club's ambitions - get to 5th place and pray for a miracle. |
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I think it's possible to debate on a fan forum which players we think should be in the team and which shouldn't, without people accusing others of "getting on his back". We all have our own opinions, it's a game of opinions and there will never be full agreement on things like team preference.
On the other hand, I don't think it's on for people to be openly barracking players at games or labelling them a disgrace or anything like that. I'm sure that all of the players give it 100% That shouldn't stop fans from having opinions and discussing them reasonably in open forum.
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