Scunthorpes 2nd new ground a step closer

Quoted from Alfie

No problem with that whatsoever but this idea that GTFC should be straight at the top of their list of priorities and NELC should be crippling themselves to deliver a football stadium on a plate for the club, as consistently endorsed by grimsbypete and others, is a joke.

Quite frankly they have much bigger and more important problems to deal with.

I'm not at all sure NELC will be doing anything of the sort! My understanding is that they are providing the land and someway down the line the infrastructure projects which would be the same for any development that would be expected to create jobs etc.  

As it's been said previous, the council has debts. But, it also has a duty to the tax payers. Now, am not saying that they should cripple them selves over giving us an opportunity, moreover how the club and county/local councils can help each other. How could this benefit then :

Employment opportunities : both on the project and also match day
Revenue streams : business' will benefit from a new ground (yes McDonald's, the imp and the blundell will be the main losers unfortunately). I would think though, should a housing development be given the go ahead at BP, it wouldn't be that big a loss
Local well being: the town would have a ground to be proud of (though I love BP) and if correct new shopping/retail/entertainment facilities. Maybe a new cinema in grimsby could be built
Non match day usage: this would be a key area. Giving local business chances to access meeting areas or use the new ground as well as schools college's etc

I would say we have to be underway within the next 18 months (MAX) for this project to happen. Will it? That's another question.

I tend to think we all just have to accept we will never get a new stadium, so, sadly, stop even thinking about it.
I think the days of GTFC and indeed Grimsby, unless something dramatic happens in the area, are numbered.

Quoted from Alfie

This is great.

NELC need to save nearly £76m by 2017. Please enlighten us as to where and why a new football stadium would be anywhere near the top of a list of priorities for an organisation responsible for dealing with massive social and economic issues.

Ahhh, how stupid are we? Obviously any other council that has HELPED any other club to develop a new site doesn't have the problems mentioned above.  Guess they get increased budgets every year and have no other issues to deal with !!  

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Would be very difficult logistically Pete.. See that I've been red crossed for my 'over to you John' post which I admit was a bit glib, however I do feel that we need a bit less talk and a lot more action. Other clubs, some smaller than ourselves, seem to be managing to deliver, why can't we?

For starters we have a backward council with councillors like Cllr De Freitasand Cllr McGilligan-Fell who both have been vocal objectors, ( Cllr De Freitas for both sites) who want to turn this town in to the next seaside  retirement home like Clacton-on-Sea, No vision and ambition to bring prosperity to the town and its population.

You only have to look at Hull and how their council publicise the town and area then look at ours.

Its time for NELC and its councillors to publicly back the scheme and drive this project forward.

I'm afraid with The Great Dictator running our council greatly supported by his cohorts, who all see things only their way, then I think progress with a new ground will be virtually non-existent. The new bus centre in town is a prime example of their attitude to the feedback and opinions  from Joe Public. It's quite ironic that the local expert on all things to do with buses , Tim " The Marx of The Marsh" Mickleburgh , since he became a councillor ( FFS), has nothing to say about the debacle that is the modernised top town. Obviously a case of toeing the party line regardless of looking at any alternative options. Unfortunately because voters treat council elections like national elections then they vote for a party and not local issues. Sadly we appear to have the council we deserve and not what we need.

i don't mean to sound stereotypical, but things like de fritas objecting to every single oppurtunity for this town moving forward like houses, new ground, etc, is what is leading to more and more youth leaving school and either ending up on the dole or leaving the town altogether, as there is nothing for them to do, i can see this town becoming a cesspit of doley unless radical changes are made. last but not least, why the intercourse do we need another cinema in the town centre? did anyone see de fritas objecting to that or scatho baths being knocked down?

[quote=2765]i don't mean to sound stereotypical, but things like de fritas objecting to every single oppurtunity for this town moving forward like houses, new ground, etc, is what is leading to more and more youth leaving school and either ending up on the dole or leaving the town altogether, as there is nothing for them to do, i can see this town becoming a cesspit of doley unless radical changes are made. last but not least, why the intercourse do we need another cinema in the town centre? did anyone see de fritas objecting to that or scatho baths being knocked down?[/quote]


DeFreitarse might have objected but our local Politburo would have outvoted him. Even Labour Coucillors who didn't want a new swimming baths had to toe the party line and vote for it.

Quoted from moosey_club

Errmmm didnt they approve Great Coates and the club let the planning permission slip in the end?

I don't think they did due to local objections.

Moosey_club, it took TEN years from the first application, to planning permission being granted, by which time the funding had long since disappeared. The objectors led the council a merry old dance to drag it out, whilst JF & the club were left helpless bystanders.

What gets me is how other councils bend over backwards to help their local football club to relocate, whilst our council...........(fill it in yourself).

Prime example is the KC stadium, built in a residential area, next to the infirmary, but planning permission was granted in no time. How??