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Opposition having the biggest say - please logon and have your say http://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.....16-detail/story.htmlBest John UTM
It's a waste of time looking on the Telewag site because A. the article hasn't finished, it won't tell us what the arguments were against other sites until tomorrow/Monday B. the site is so full of trolls with nothing better to do than fiddle with their cookies and change the voting that nobody takes any notice of the site anymore..
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HackneyHaddock |
November 14, 2014, 3:31pm |
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Good on you John for your relentless efforts with this. I wonder though, if it might help our cause if we could have some new pictures of what the new ground/complex would look like, so we can proudly sell OUR positive vision for a new ground, rather than defending against ADF's negative vision he's trying to put into people's heads? The image we're selling to people needs to be compelling, positive and exciting, and we (the pro-relocation foot soldiers if you will) will be better-placed to go out and evangelise about something a bit more real and tangible than the old Conoco Stadium picture.
Let's get an architect to produce some nice landscaped impressions of the new community facility, start making this about the development of the town and the area rather than just the football club, and pitch it to the 100,000 people of the whole area who want this town to improve, rather than fending off the 2,000 NIMBYs who shout the loudest. It might cost tens of thousands to get sketches made up, but I and hundreds of others would probably chuck in £50-100 each to make it happen if you needed it. What do you think?
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MuddyWaters |
November 14, 2014, 3:34pm |
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My comment is currently +741 thumbs up so well done everyone for logging in!
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WOZOFGRIMSBY |
November 14, 2014, 3:40pm |
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But, as mentioned previously, any business folding (as is said would happen to town) would get all the help it could. It seems ridiculous that it's being even thought of dismissed. The club need the town as much as the town needs the club.
As mentioned by someone else, what step are we at and what's the next leap forward? Is a full page advert in the telewag an idea that could be used? Then maybe those against may see the outlined proposal and what it means economically and emotionally to the town
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Meza |
November 14, 2014, 4:00pm |
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Meza,
"Steam" so am I. But i am abundantly aware that if the council are to assist then relentless support is essential.
I am afraid the opposition have the biggest say ATM and that will for sure influence if unchecked. Being in politics I have seen how it works.
Were nowhere without agreeing a basis for land transfer. That's on the agenda and the next step.
Afraid it's one step at a time. Every GET article needs your support that's for sure. A few to role in the next few days I hope.
UTM
Thanks John, I wasn't being arsey about it, just its difficult to try and win over the nimby's in trying to see it from out point of view. Some of these nimby's haven't a clue and are arguing based on not knowing the full story. What will happen to all the youths that go to the games what will they start to do just to pass the time on a Saturday afternoon.
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headingly_mariner |
November 14, 2014, 4:29pm |
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Meza,
"Steam" so am I. But i am abundantly aware that if the council are to assist then relentless support is essential.
I am afraid the opposition have the biggest say ATM and that will for sure influence if unchecked. Being in politics I have seen how it works.
Were nowhere without agreeing a basis for land transfer. That's on the agenda and the next step.
Afraid it's one step at a time. Every GET article needs your support that's for sure. A few to role in the next few days I hope.
UTM
Would it not be helpful to open discussion about the new ground up a bit wider than on the fishy and a few articles in the Telegraph? I read the articles and really hope that the club will be playing at improved facilities but I don't really see any public debate. Would it not be advisable to get other local media discussing the new ground, asking questions of yourself and those who stand in the way of the new ground being built? I haven't seen yourself on look north or heard you discussing this on Humberside (apologies if I have missed this) surely this would be an excellent opportunity to debate the need for a new ground and for you to convince the public of exactly where it should be.
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moosey_club |
November 14, 2014, 4:43pm |
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Would it not be helpful to open discussion about the new ground up a bit wider than on the fishy and a few articles in the Telegraph? I read the articles and really hope that the club will be playing at improved facilities but I don't really see any public debate. Would it not be advisable to get other local media discussing the new ground, asking questions of yourself and those who stand in the way of the new ground being built? I haven't seen yourself on look north or heard you discussing this on Humberside (apologies if I have missed this) surely this would be an excellent opportunity to debate the need for a new ground and for you to convince the public of exactly where it should be.
A live public debate on Estuary TV......in the green corner De Freitas....In the Black and White Corner JF.....
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WOZOFGRIMSBY |
November 14, 2014, 5:00pm |
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Headingly makes a good point though. Maybe set up meetings and proposed ideas of plans. Have drawings/visions of how the area will look in places such as freshney place, library, auditorium, college and leisure centres. Petition around social hubs and supermarkets where there is the highest denomination of footfall.
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coddy60 |
November 14, 2014, 5:04pm |
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Just added my tuppence worth.
Whats going on with the thumbs up/down thing? Seems to be a lot of 111 or 222 numbers involved, cricket fans/players will be most concerned about Nelson doing for the stadium!!!!!
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November 14, 2014, 6:19pm |
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I have put our point of view on.
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