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GrimRob
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The Fishy would go into meltdown if we even expressed an interest  
Personally I'd love to see him join us but there's no chance.


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Sign him up!  He could be a new Lee Hughes, feeding off the abuse he gets to perform better.  Hughes' crime was much worse yet he's still been able come back and complete a pretty successful career.  It personally doesn't bother me if Evans was a convicted rapist or not, I don't know him personally and neither am I ever going to.  I don't want to.  But if he'd be willing to put in a shift for the club then why should we care about what goes on in his life outside of football.  There is already a long-established justice system to take of criminals, it shouldn't be anybody else's business to take of it.


I'm desperate to get out of this league but not at any price , that post is awful fella
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Chosing "what's worse" between rape and murder isn't a discussion I'd want to see on here.....


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He's making an announcement this afternoon - retirement?
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Chosing "what's worse" between rape and murder isn't a discussion I'd want to see on here.....


I think the football authorities have maybe answered that anyway. Hughes was allowed to play on, Evans wasn't / isn't.
Far too many grey areas, and rules that are seemingly made up on the hoof.


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Quoted from Doctor Sanchez
Sign him up!  He could be a new Lee Hughes, feeding off the abuse he gets to perform better.  Hughes' crime was much worse yet he's still been able come back and complete a pretty successful career.  It personally doesn't bother me if Evans was a convicted rapist or not, I don't know him personally and neither am I ever going to.  I don't want to.  But if he'd be willing to put in a shift for the club then why should we care about what goes on in his life outside of football.  There is already a long-established justice system to take of criminals, it shouldn't be anybody else's business to take of it.


No it wasn't. The consequences of the crime were worse but not the actual crime itself. Evans is a sex offender and if he was a bin man, you wouldn't want him living next door to you, never mind playing for your local team.
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Town's decision not to pursue interest in him seems to have gone down well here

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Quoted from punk mariner
there's a huge amount that could be said on this issue. personally I do not believe that, as a convicted rapist, Evans should be allowed to play football professionally again and would not want him at GTFC EVEN if it guaranteed promotion. I think Football 365 summed it up perfectly:

"Employing Evans sends a deeply flawed message. It declares that as long as you are gifted you are untouchable, that being good at football gives you an automatic right to be a footballer. And that we care more about our team winning a match than anything else."


Fact is: he has served his time for the crime! So I don`t see any good reasons why he shouldn`t be allowed to continue with his trade. We all have things we are good at - and those are the things that we are most likely to do to earn ourselves a living. In Norway he wouldn`t be allowed to work for the police, in the schools or help-centers for abused women. Otherwise - I see no problem with him working as a footballer. I guess he would regret it if he got an urge to try to rape a footballer in the shower.
The alternative is for people to have him go unemployed and be paid by the social services. Do you really prefer to pay for his living through your taxes?

I would like to change the quote a little - imagine that he was a plumber: "Employing Evans sends a deeply flawed message. It declares that as long as you are good with your hands you are untouchable, that being good at plumbing gives you an automatic right to be a plumber."

The only reason why this is a discussion at all is because he is a "famous person" - this would be no problem if he was a plumber. He didn`t get a life-sentence and society have punished him for what the justice system thought that he did. If people think that is unfair - you should lengthen the time that has to be served for that particular crime and not continue the punishment outside of the prison walls.

And that is exactly why Grimsby Town should employ him if he wanted to come here!




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No it wasn't. The consequences of the crime were worse but not the actual crime itself. Evans is a sex offender and if he was a bin man, you wouldn't want him living next door to you, never mind playing for your local team.


Well I meant worse as in the size of the punishment that was handed out.  I'm still a believer in giving people a second chance in life if they've taken the punishment for their mistakes.    


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People who would rather a football team they support get promoted at any cost, need to take a long hard look at themselves.

As a male, I cannot and wouldn't even try and speak on behalf of the female gender, but, like many people, I have female relatives. The issue of rape needs to be taken way more seriously than it is....any team taking him on is bad enough for me, but what kind of a message would it be projecting onto our younger, local males? I don't care if he's done his time or not, the thought of my sisters/nieces, etc, growing up in a town where a couple of thousand people celebrate a convicted rapist is one I do not wish to entertain. Ever.


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