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KingstonMariner
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Good article.


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It's fine as it is. Too many tinpot clubs are in the league as it is. We'll get out of it next season, then we'll never look back again.


Seasons ago your comment would have been justified but now you have Towns bigger than Grimsby being funded by multi millionaires.  

Fleetwood only got their financial backer because he was refused a place on Blackpools board and now you have foreign investment.

Ground safety and facilities for fans should be the decider if a tin pot team is able to go higher up the football pyramid.

After all, it's the only real thing left in football, a non league team making their way up the football pyramid.


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great article - well argued
It will happen one day, not sure when..perhaps when more traditional, well supported clubs drop out of the football league
Top of Conf is no worse than much of League Two
It's unfair, unsustainable and undemocratic to have only one automatic promotion spot
Conference to me is no longer the poor relation - it's League Three in all but name - but it's the stigma of being classed non league
Three up and three down needs to happen sooner rather than later
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They should get rid of 4 up from League 2 and change that to 3 up as well it's a total anachronism. We got relegated from League 1 in fourth bottom place as I recall.


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It's fine as it is. Too many tinpot clubs are in the league as it is. We'll get out of it next season, then we'll never look back again.



What an arrogant attitude! What criteria do you use to define a club as " tinpot". Surely the whole point of the football league pyramid is to allow any team, given time , to achieve success through promotions? There are many teams in the league who have become " established league teams" even though they have only achieved league status in the last 50 or 60 years. Wigan Athletic are a prime example. They were only formed in 1932 and only got Football League status in the 1977-78 season. This was under the old system of being " voted " into the league and this was at the expense of Southport who failed at their attempt of re-election. I would imagine Wigan might come under your description of " tinpot " if you had expressed a view at the time.
IMO their should be an equal number of promotion places in each of the leagues, this would give a more balanced structure. The greatest anomoly is the fact that 4 teams are promoted from League 2 to League 1 yet only 2 teams are relegated from League 2. 4 teams are promoted into the Vanarama Conference , which seems to indicate a bias towards teams attaining Football League status.


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I'd actually prefer league 2 and the conference to merge and become L2 north and south. But that's another story.

Stuff that. I miss the long distance trips as it is being at our level!

So, the sooner we get back to the Conference. The sooner I can enjoy long trips away to Torquay etc.


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Maybe the 3rd place team in the Conference should play off against the team that finishes 3rd bottom in League 2? One off game neutral ground..........or considering that attendance between Southern and Wycombe yesterday it could be the curtain raiser for the league 2 play off final.    


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Leave it as it is. Get out of this league and stay out, don't make it easier to fall back down here. Care about town first and foremost - once we're out of here, this league is the least of our concerns. None of us cared before we got relegated.

All this moral high-ground people are taking is a load of balderdash. How many of us care about the conference north??
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Again a totally selfish attitude! The WHOLE structure of the Football League needs looking into and a fair system for the whole of the pyramid needs to be agreed. The same promotion and relegation for all the structure is the only way to go. The system is bigger than any single club and that is the point.


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What an arrogant attitude! What criteria do you use to define a club as " tinpot". Surely the whole point of the football league pyramid is to allow any team, given time , to achieve success through promotions? There are many teams in the league who have become " established league teams" even though they have only achieved league status in the last 50 or 60 years. Wigan Athletic are a prime example. They were only formed in 1932 and only got Football League status in the 1977-78 season. This was under the old system of being " voted " into the league and this was at the expense of Southport who failed at their attempt of re-election. I would imagine Wigan might come under your description of " tinpot " if you had expressed a view at the time.IMO their should be an equal number of promotion places in each of the leagues, this would give a more balanced structure. The greatest anomoly is the fact that 4 teams are promoted from League 2 to League 1 yet only 2 teams are relegated from League 2. 4 teams are promoted into the Vanarama Conference , which seems to indicate a bias towards teams attaining Football League status.


That's right, they were as tinpot as they came at the time.
I'd argue they aren't where they are on merit but rather the money thown at them which show's in my opinion that you can indeed polish a turd.
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