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Maringer
September 2, 2015, 12:57pm
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I think the point is more a case that LJL (and Hannah) absolutely worked their socks off when playing up front, undoubtedly to the detriment of their attacking play.

Though not exactly shirkers, I don't think you could ever accuse Amond and Bogle of running their socks off, at least not in the games that I've seen.

When you add in the fact that Arnold and Mackreth tended to be deployed quite defensively last season and have been playing further forward this year, it's no surprise that we don't look as compact at the back. That said, most of the goals we have conceded have been really soft and should have been stopped.
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Many/most goals conceded this season were the result of "avoidable errors".  

The trick is to avoid making the same errors in the future. Surely we can do this?  
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We have to cos I reckon words got round we've got a flappy keeper and a back line that can't defend far post crosses
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It wasn't in our hands; the closest we got was a point behind (effectively 2 with the gd) with 5 games to go.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31997206


If we'd won at Chester it would have been in our hands at that point.


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I think the point is more a case that LJL (and Hannah) absolutely worked their socks off when playing up front, undoubtedly to the detriment of their attacking play.

Though not exactly shirkers, I don't think you could ever accuse Amond and Bogle of running their socks off, at least not in the games that I've seen.

When you add in the fact that Arnold and Mackreth tended to be deployed quite defensively last season and have been playing further forward this year, it's no surprise that we don't look as compact at the back. That said, most of the goals we have conceded have been really soft and should have been stopped.


Hannah wasn't good enough for a promotion chasing side IMO but Lenny was, and I'd disagree about Bogle and Amond, Bogle closes the play down well and Amond makes very intelligent runs creating space for others.


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Quoted from SamTheMariner


If we'd won at Chester it would have been in our hands at that point.


And we know who to blame for that

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And we know who to blame for that



Would that be Danny Parslow or the bloke that put him on?  
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Quoted from SamTheMariner


If we'd won at Chester it would have been in our hands at that point.


So if we'd won at Chester it would've been in our hands 2 weeks later if the subsequent results had gone the same way?

Any team can pick out games they should've won (and we had enough of them!) What if Barnet hadn't have drawn at Alfreton? What if Telford had won 25 more games?!


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Hannah wasn't good enough for a promotion chasing side IMO but Lenny was, and I'd disagree about Bogle and Amond, Bogle closes the play down well and Amond makes very intelligent runs creating space for others.



Aye.

Bogle seemed largely ineffectual on Saturday because of a complete lack of support from midfield. Bogle's being played as an outlet, getting the ball with his back to goal, mainly laying it off, or turning on the rare occasion he gets some space. This worked well at the start of the season as support was there from the midfield two and the wingers, and the passing was sharp and accurate.

On Saturday, balls were getting pinged into him at chest height or 3-4 yards wide of where he's stood, he had a defender up his bottom every single time and nobody else wanted to know. The midfield two were happy to just potter about in front of our back 4, Marshall was stuck out on the bye-line and Mackreth offered frig all.

It's easy to defend against that & I hope its addressed before Bogle gets all his potential ground of him and turned into LJL MKII.
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Hannah wasn't good enough for a promotion chasing side IMO but Lenny was, and I'd disagree about Bogle and Amond, Bogle closes the play down well and Amond makes very intelligent runs creating space for others.


Don't get me wrong, I don't think Bogle and Amond are lazy players (Amond's movement in particular is excellent when he's playing at his best). I just don't think they are as ridiculously energetic in chasing down the ball as LJL and Hannah. Bogle appears to have a habit of losing concentration from time to time leading to the defenders nipping in and winning balls that they shouldn't but if he can work on that he's got a lot more potential to develop as a striker. I'd like to see him challenging defenders for aerial balls a bit better as well. You don't necessarily need to win too many of the headers, just make sure the defender can't get in a good clearance. Without actually being seen to foul them, obviously.
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