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October 5, 2015, 1:56pm

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This is a thread about a non GTFC related subject. If you want to spout the same shite over and over do it on one of the dozens of other ones on this board.
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Yep the whole case was littered with balderdash.

Defintley wasnt a shut and closed case.


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Ok as Hurst's defence council,

You start with his defence , why are we drawing so many games,

Why does he urine strikers off by dropping them even though they have been doing their job,

Why does he keep playing a loan player who has failed to score,

Have you noticed how many goals Cook has scored last season and this for Barrow ?

With the right encouragement he could have been a decent player for us,

Need I go on ?

See you at Braintree mate.


I might be prepared to debate Hurst's abilities as a manager on a thread designed for that purpose. However this thread has absolutely nothing to do with him. As for needing to gop on. Only you can answer that. I'm afraid I won't be at Braintree so perhaps you could let me have a balanced report on how the game went?


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October 5, 2015, 2:07pm

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I might be prepared to debate Hurst's abilities as a manager on a thread designed for that purpose. However this thread has absolutely nothing to do with him. As for needing to gop on. Only you can answer that. I'm afraid I won't be at Braintree so perhaps you could let me have a balanced report on how the game went?


I will be delighted to give my honest views on the game in the just back thread Ian.


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Nothing will come of it. Surely he'll be in line for millions if aquitted


Christ you all wanted him sacked a few months ago. 6th place finish and he's now the messiah and can do no wrong  
Update:  I think I've got this right - He was the messiah. He then wasn't. He then was again. Then it turned out he actually wasnt. He turned into one big huge messiah again. Now he's not actually the messiah we thought he was . Now I'm hoping he rises again quickly
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Nothing will come of it. Surely he'll be in line for millions if aquitted


Tend to agree - that's Travelodgical  
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Nothing will come of it. Surely he'll be in line for millions if aquitted


There will be firms of barristers queuing up. Loss of liberty compensation. Loss of earnings (I wonder how much a League 1 (?) forward is on these days) and loss of future earnings (Welsh caps leading to a big transfer).

I honestly don't think cost comes into it. British justice is above that.


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Nothing will come of it. Surely he'll be in line for millions if acquitted


He won't be in line for millions. The appeal will decide if a jury presented with this new evidence could have reached a different verdict. If the answer is yes the Judge can order an acquittal or order a new trial (and the CPS may not pursue a new trial if they believe that there isn't a realistic prospect of a conviction).

If Evans conviction is quashed he is NOT automatically entitled to compensation. He must prove on the balance of probabilities (different from beyond reasonable doubt) that he did not commit the crime. A fair number of people who have been found not guilty at the court of appeal have been refused compensation on the grounds that they could not prove that they were innocent. My guess is that were he to be found not guilty it would be quite difficult for him to prove that he was innocent.

Even if he were to be freed compensation for those serving less than ten years in prison is capped at £500k. The guidelines suggest that compensation is paid on a basis of 1.5 x the median wage (about 35k per year) plus reasonable legal expenses and reasonable travel expenses for the family of the exonoree. Reasonable is the key word here. My guess is that he would receive somewhere around 100k if were to receive compensation.
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He won't be in line for millions. The appeal will decide if a jury presented with this new evidence could have reached a different verdict. If the answer is yes the Judge can order an acquittal or order a new trial (and the CPS may not pursue a new trial if they believe that there isn't a realistic prospect of a conviction).

If Evans conviction is quashed he is NOT automatically entitled to compensation. He must prove on the balance of probabilities (different from beyond reasonable doubt) that he did not commit the crime. A fair number of people who have been found not guilty at the court of appeal have been refused compensation on the grounds that they could not prove that they were innocent. My guess is that were he to be found not guilty it would be quite difficult for him to prove that he was innocent.

Even if he were to be freed compensation for those serving less than ten years in prison is capped at £500k. The guidelines suggest that compensation is paid on a basis of 1.5 x the median wage (about 35k per year) plus reasonable legal expenses and reasonable travel expenses for the family of the exonoree. Reasonable is the key word here. My guess is that he would receive somewhere around 100k if were to receive compensation.


Thanks for that. Very interesting contribution. I didn't realise compensation levels were capped in that way.


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Thanks for that. Very interesting contribution. I didn't realise compensation levels were capped in that way.


Only till Jeremy Corbyn and co get in power. Then it will be a bloody free for all.
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