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[url]http://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/Mystery-investor-backing-Grimsby-Town-FC-plans/story-28247816-detail/story.html[/url] Has someone on here won the Euro Millions without telling us?  |
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| November 26, 2015, 2:24pm |
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Shush !! I did not want anybody to know. |
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| November 26, 2015, 2:35pm |
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Don't care as long as they are genuine and hurry up and get it built
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| OllieGTFC |
| November 26, 2015, 2:39pm |
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Wonder if they fancy buying us out if they have that sort of money, would be nice to have money
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| November 26, 2015, 2:48pm |
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My guess is a retail developer if prefer Peaks Parkway. But hopefully a Saudi Arabian Sheik and this is first of a massive investment  |
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| November 26, 2015, 2:57pm |
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We want a big 'suger daddy' aha hopefully, possibly be a American I would of thought
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| November 26, 2015, 3:00pm |
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Adam whatsit, the guy who eats food on telly would be good. Could have a chain of restaurants opening, and one built into the new ground.
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| November 26, 2015, 3:03pm |
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Adam Richmond your on about there lad
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| November 26, 2015, 3:05pm |
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I bought 5 lucky dips last week when the jackpot was £117m with the intention of giving £100m to the Mariners Trust.
Won £6.10 so I had a bottle of merlot instead
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| ginnywings |
| November 26, 2015, 3:58pm |
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Doesn't sound like an individual to me. Maybe a big company looking to build houses or a supermarket-something along those lines. Whoever it is, things are looking promising.
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| November 26, 2015, 4:00pm |
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Are they....until the council step in and say it wont be built on PP.....then what lol.
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| November 26, 2015, 4:02pm |
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Doesn't sound like an individual to me. Maybe a big company looking to build houses or a supermarket-something along those lines. Whoever it is, things are looking promising.
I don't know about that ginny. It is the problems associated with housing development that are stopping the PW from being approved. There already was a developer willing to build if and when planning is passed so this reads to me like something different. Could be wrong, time will tell. |
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| November 26, 2015, 5:02pm |
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Then again it could just be the telewag bullshiting to sell it's rag.
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| psgmariner |
| November 26, 2015, 5:06pm |
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Ivano Bonetti and his agent is the rumour I just made up.
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| November 26, 2015, 5:15pm |
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Did I just see Bonetti at Shell on end of A180? Probably just imaging it.
Does Adam Wotsit own Wotsits crisps? He could be worth a few bob
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| jock dock tower |
| November 26, 2015, 5:23pm |
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Never thought I'd say this, but I hope it's Gideon (George) Osborne, the Chancellor of the Exchequer. If he can find £27 billion they day before his autumn statement, just think what we could do with any small change he may have forgotten about?
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| November 26, 2015, 5:25pm |
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Wary until we get some details about who it is and what he/they want.
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| RoboCod |
| November 26, 2015, 5:36pm |
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Did I just see Bonetti at Shell on end of A180? Probably just imaging it.
Does Adam Wotsit own Wotsits crisps? He could be worth a few bob
I hear both of the above are going into partnership with Chicken-buffet flavoured Wotsits, it's all coming together for us at the right time. |
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| November 26, 2015, 5:46pm |
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Never thought I'd say this, but I hope it's Gideon (George) Osborne, the Chancellor of the Exchequer. If he can find £27 billion they day before his autumn statement, just think what we could do with any small change he may have forgotten about?
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| November 26, 2015, 6:04pm |
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| November 26, 2015, 6:14pm |
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How do they know I'm winning the Euro millions tomorrow ???  |
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| November 26, 2015, 6:41pm |
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I hear both of the above are going into partnership with Chicken-buffet flavoured Wotsits, it's all coming together for us at the right time.
Flying across a dressing room near you! |
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| November 26, 2015, 9:40pm |
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Did I just see Bonetti at Shell on end of A180? Probably just imaging it.
Does Adam Wotsit own Wotsits crisps? He could be worth a few bob
Is that who I saw with Robbie Fowler!! |
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| November 26, 2015, 9:42pm |
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Wagner ? C'mon...admit it....you had forgotten all about that little episode hadnt you? |
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| November 26, 2015, 10:57pm |
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Never thought I'd say this, but I hope it's Gideon (George) Osborne, the Chancellor of the Exchequer. If he can find £27 billion they day before his autumn statement, just think what we could do with any small change he may have forgotten about?
Yes what an amazing stroke of luck that was. Imagine if the Lords had not voted the tax credit motion down Ozzy might never have found that extra money. |
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| November 27, 2015, 7:33am |
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Spotted David Ross in Steels last night
Are you sure? I'm absolutely certain it was him having a couple of lagers and a game of killer in the white bear last night |
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Steve Morgan?
Chairman and founder of Redrow Plc.
Recently stepped down as chairman of Wolverhampton Wanderers.
Loves football and building houses.
Grimsby Town need to build a stadium by means of a housing development.
Total guess but it would make sense.
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| November 30, 2015, 9:35am |
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I imagine it will be a house building company closely connected to one of our existing shareholders.
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| November 30, 2015, 11:13am |
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Steve Morgan?
Chairman and founder of Redrow Plc.
Recently stepped down as chairman of Wolverhampton Wanderers.
Loves football and building houses.
Grimsby Town need to build a stadium by means of a housing development.
Total guess but it would make sense.
Could be his brother Captain Morgan that would be a rum do |
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| ginnywings |
| November 30, 2015, 11:45am |
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I heard the name Dudley Ramsden mentioned at the weekend. Not sure what to make of that but deadly Dudley is seriously minted and Ramsdens have applied to build a shopping village recently, which the council were not keen on. Maybe a Ramsdens shopping village at Peaks Parkway?
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| RexFannies |
| November 30, 2015, 11:57am |
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Steve Morgan?
Chairman and founder of Redrow Plc.
Recently stepped down as chairman of Wolverhampton Wanderers.
Loves football and building houses.
Grimsby Town need to build a stadium by means of a housing development.
Total guess but it would make sense.
I think he tried buying Liverpool FC before the yanks took it |
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Flying across a dressing room near you!
Dressing Room.....we are very posh at GTFC |
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| moosey_club |
| November 30, 2015, 12:16pm |
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I imagine it will be a house building company closely connected to one of our existing shareholders.
You mean....JF's other company interest?? |
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| rancido |
| November 30, 2015, 12:22pm |
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I heard the name Dudley Ramsden mentioned at the weekend. Not sure what to make of that but deadly Dudley is seriously minted and Ramsdens have applied to build a shopping village recently, which the council were not keen on. Maybe a Ramsdens shopping village at Peaks Parkway?
Could be but after he fell out with the club a few years back I would be very surprised if he wanted to get involved again. |
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Could be but after he fell out with the club a few years back I would be very surprised if he wanted to get involved again.
Agreed and i hadn't even given him a thought 'til someone mentioned his name. There will be all sorts of names thrown around but Ramsden has got previous, is local and is minted. Who knows what his plans are? |
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Agreed and i hadn't even given him a thought 'til someone mentioned his name. There will be all sorts of names thrown around but Ramsden has got previous, is local and is minted. Who knows what his plans are?
I , for one , would be very wary if he got involved with the club again. I seem to recall when he was a director he loaned the club a considerable sum of money ( £350,000 ? ) .Then when he couldn't get his own way over some issue he resigned as a director and immediately demanded his loan back. I don't recall the full details but I seem to remember it was along those lines and caused the club a lot of problems. |
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I , for one , would be very wary if he got involved with the club again. I seem to recall when he was a director he loaned the club a considerable sum of money ( £350,000 ? ) .Then when he couldn't get his own way over some issue he resigned as a director and immediately demanded his loan back. I don't recall the full details but I seem to remember it was along those lines and caused the club a lot of problems.
Yep but money talks and peoples memories are short if there is something to be gained. I'm not saying it is Ramsden but it wouldn't surprise me in the least if it was. My gut feeling is that it will be a house builder of some sort or maybe a supermarket. I know Lidl are looking to expand. |
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| barralad |
| November 30, 2015, 3:13pm |
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You mean....JF's other company interest??
Hasn't J.F. sold his holdings in Topcon? |
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Hasn't J.F. sold his holdings in Topcon?
Yes he's recently been paid off, the firm is now paying mucker larger dividends to the remaining directors... |
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| November 30, 2015, 5:21pm |
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I heard the name Dudley Ramsden mentioned at the weekend. Not sure what to make of that but deadly Dudley is seriously minted and Ramsdens have applied to build a shopping village recently, which the council were not keen on. Maybe a Ramsdens shopping village at Peaks Parkway?
Dudley's son who is the CEO of the worldwide export side of the company is a big Town fan as well. [url=http://www.talkingretail.com/category-news/independent-news/nisa-announces-250m-ramsden-international-contract-extension/] Nisa announces £250m Ramsden International contract extension[/url] |
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| November 30, 2015, 5:39pm |
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I heard the name Dudley Ramsden mentioned at the weekend. Not sure what to make of that but deadly Dudley is seriously minted and Ramsdens have applied to build a shopping village recently, which the council were not keen on. Maybe a Ramsdens shopping village at Peaks Parkway?
That would make sense, from a retail point of view a move or another site would allow them to really grow their retail business. Looking at the size and location of the current store there is only so much you can achieve. |
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Only speculating but I think it is going to be a much bigger retailer than Ramsdens.
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Only speculating but I think it is going to be a much bigger retailer than Ramsdens.
You'd be surprised how big the Ramsdens empire is these days. It isn't just a supermarket at Park Street and a few bits and pieces. |
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You'd be surprised how big the Ramsdens empire is these days. It isn't just a supermarket at Park Street and a few bits and pieces.
Think Ramsdens is just kept for nostalgia. The real business is Nisa which is Europe wide and hugely profitable. |
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One for the oldies.
If we can get the Freeman Street site, Mad Harry could be making a comeback.
Listen ladies, if you bought these from Marks and Spencer you'd pay £25 to £30. I don't want £25, I don't want £20, £15 or even a tenner, £9 £8 or even £7.How many hands can I see being raised.
Over there, over there, over there, and over there.
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One for the oldies.
If we can get the Freeman Street site, Mad Harry could be making a comeback.
Listen ladies, if you bought these from Marks and Spencer you'd pay £25 to £30. I don't want £25, I don't want £20, £15 or even a tenner, £9 £8 or even £7.How many hands can I see being raised.
Over there, over there, over there, and over there.
£6.99 a pair. SOLD
Mad Harrys market stall was next door to my grandparents curtain stall on freemo market! I spent many hours listening to that EXACT spiel in my youth! |
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One for the oldies.
If we can get the Freeman Street site, Mad Harry could be making a comeback.
Listen ladies, if you bought these from Marks and Spencer you'd pay £25 to £30. I don't want £25, I don't want £20, £15 or even a tenner, £9 £8 or even £7.How many hands can I see being raised.
Over there, over there, over there, and over there.
£6.99 a pair. SOLD
Probably made his fortune from all of the pennies he never seemed to have for change !! |
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So if a mystery investor is to help build the stadium what happens next, will they apply for land purchase? I'm very intrigued to see who this is. Youngs? Ramsdens? Wind turbine co? hell knows but it can only be a good thing can it?
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Anybody heard any names ? I expect we will find out the identity of them one day
But the club is doing right to keep it a secret until everything is signed confirmed and official
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One for the oldies.
If we can get the Freeman Street site, Mad Harry could be making a comeback.
Listen ladies, if you bought these from Marks and Spencer you'd pay £25 to £30. I don't want £25, I don't want £20, £15 or even a tenner, £9 £8 or even £7.How many hands can I see being raised.
Over there, over there, over there, and over there.
£6.99 a pair. SOLD
Will he do that with season tickets please? |
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What happened to the investment made by Conoco / Phillips 66 to name the last attempt at a stadium build?
Are they still on board with sponsorship if we do get a move ??
Who still has a souvenir hat with Conoco on it ??......me for one !!
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One for the oldies.
If we can get the Freeman Street site, Mad Harry could be making a comeback.
Listen ladies, if you bought these from Marks and Spencer you'd pay £25 to £30. I don't want £25, I don't want £20, £15 or even a tenner, £9 £8 or even £7.How many hands can I see being raised.
Over there, over there, over there, and over there.
£6.99 a pair. SOLD
My Mum worked for Mad Harry, he had a shop on Freeman St opposite the ABC Cinema at the time. He made a fortune selling discount (Out of date) condoms. I often wondered how many of us he was responsible for? |
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Spent a lot of time as a kid being dragged around Freemo and standing with my mum at Mad Harry's stall in the market. Apart from getting something from the sweetstall that was the one bright spot of the day as a kid.
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Yeah remember that goodie shop and the chippy.
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Spent a lot of time as a kid being dragged around Freemo and standing with my mum at Mad Harry's stall in the market. Apart from getting something from the sweetstall that was the one bright spot of the day as a kid.
Being a bit older than you(I'd guess) the highlight of Freemo was definitely a milkshake sat at the "bar" in Woolies. We spent an insane amount of time at Mad Harry's but not nearly enough at the stall which sold broken biscuits.😥 |
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Is Dudley Ramsden's son called Harry ?
If he is we should be able to get some decent fish + chips at the new stadium.
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Wasn't Ramsden (Nisa) the biggest importer of Coca Cola in Europe at one point. I remember a rumour about them sponsoring us many moons ago.
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Being a bit older than you(I'd guess) the highlight of Freemo was definitely a milkshake sat at the "bar" in Woolies. We spent an insane amount of time at Mad Harry's but not nearly enough at the stall which sold broken biscuits.😥
I always thought those broken biscuits didn't taste quite right. But then I was a picky kid. (whaddya mean I still am ) Vaguely remember the milkshake bar in the late 60s. Older sisters used to go there. Completely off track of the thread now but I remember a toy shop down Cleethorpe Road (corner of Albion St?) and another shop (some sort of department store - not Lawson and Stockade) further down on the opposite side. IIRC. Used to get taken there when my grandad came home from sea in the run - up to Christmas. |
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I always thought those broken biscuits didn't taste quite right. But then I was a picky kid. (whaddya mean I still am ) Vaguely remember the milkshake bar in the late 60s. Older sisters used to go there. Completely off track of the thread now but I remember a toy shop down Cleethorpe Road (corner of Albion St?) and another shop (some sort of department store - not Lawson and Stockade) further down on the opposite side. IIRC. Used to get taken there when my grandad came home from sea in the run - up to Christmas.
Think you mean Whitby's toys where Elegant Lighting is next to the Albion and do you mean Craske & Smith that sold school uniforms etc? |
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Wilson's down Alexander Road on the sea fornt was my favourite toy shop in the 60's.
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Having dissected the announcement at AGM and the board's total commitment to Peakes Parkway, and the outline plans that they have had drawn up, I definitely think the enabling development is a housing development. (Perhaps with some retail thrown in if they can get it - but that will be extra fluff on top). So Freeman Street, Garth Lane, Europarc won't work for them. Given that, I'd rule out Ramsdem. (Also NISA generally supply/franchise small convenience stores - not big supermarkets). So think house builders / developers who may be interested. And who have the money. I have a hunch it's Redrow as I said previously. After trying to buy Liverpool, Steve Morgan settled for Wolves. Bought it for £1 on the condition he invested £30 million. Which he did. And more. But the club didn't progress and he took a lot of stick from the fans for not getting them back in to the Premiership. He apparently had a bust up with Wolves supporters outside Molineux saying " So how much do you expect me to invest?" Imagine that if you want to be involved in football - your business will also gain from any association - and for a relatively small additional investment you are almost certain to see the club progress significantly - then I wouldn't be surprised if it was him. There again, I'm probably wrong! |
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Anyone remember Samuels Bazaar on the high Street where all the pubs are, when we went in he (Mr Samuel i presume) followed us around like a hawk watching it's prey, so we went to Wilson's Bazaar instead which was much more relaxed shopping, though i was only 9/10 at the time, or Woolies which is now the new Wetherspoons.
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Woolies is now something like boyes isn't it?
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Woolies moved across the road from Wetherspoons to where Boyes is now I think.
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Think you mean Whitby's toys where Elegant Lighting is next to the Albion and do you mean Craske & Smith that sold school uniforms etc?
Yeah Whitby's. Crake and Smith is the other one - old fashioned wooden drawers. Had it in my head they did toys as well but I might be mixing it up with Rammies. |
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Anyone remember Samuels Bazaar on the high Street where all the pubs are, when we went in he (Mr Samuel i presume) followed us around like a hawk watching it's prey, so we went to Wilson's Bazaar instead which was much more relaxed shopping, though i was only 9/10 at the time, or Woolies which is now the new Wetherspoons.
Used to love all those shops. Didn't Woolies used to be in what is now Weatherspoons (old theatre)? Glass topped cases full of Timpo cowboys and indians. Ace! |
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You couldn't go in Samuels bazaar with out being followed, either it was Mr Samuel or some old woman with strange shaped glasses on.
Anyone remember Samuels Bazaar on the high Street where all the pubs are, when we went in he (Mr Samuel i presume) followed us around like a hawk watching it's prey, so we went to Wilson's Bazaar instead which was much more relaxed shopping, though i was only 9/10 at the time, or Woolies which is now the new Wetherspoons.
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Craske & Smith's was also good for sporting items, I bought my first laced up leather football and tennis racket from there. That ball was bl00dy heavy once it got wet ha ha.
Most dart players in the town bought their darts from there. They sold school and scout uniforms as well. Upstairs they had a big range of air guns and rifles.
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Woolies was opposite the market then closed down and ended up being mad harrys.
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Anyone remember Samuels Bazaar on the high Street where all the pubs are, when we went in he (Mr Samuel i presume) followed us around like a hawk watching it's prey, so we went to Wilson's Bazaar instead which was much more relaxed shopping, though i was only 9/10 at the time, or Woolies which is now the new Wetherspoons.
Yes my mam worked in that Woolies and I always remember going to the Bazaar to buy caps for my cowboy gun and the rocket you would throw has high as you could and hope it came down straight so that it would make a bang. |
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I remember the joke shop on the high street, used to be opposite Humphries/entrance to St Peters. Now its the car park. Also remember Norris the rubber man. Got my smart Lindsey school blazer from there, I was so proud till 1st day of school and found out it was the wrong colour
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My wife thought Norris the Rubber Man's was a sex shop.
Did you put her right and point out he's actually a super-hero? Teamed up with Doc Tower ('the Million Brick Man') to defeat their arch-nemesis, the evil Scrob, whose amazing sweater could absorb all manner of punishment (mostly rum). By day a mild-mannered shopkeeper in brown overall coat dispensing gumboots and workwear, by night he can be seen running running like the wind down Pasture Street, his arms reaching out inexorably before him to catch .... .....last orders at Hewitts. |
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I can remember Normans Toy shop down St Peters Ave , I think they had one down Freemo too. I used to get all my toy soldiers from there |
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I can remember Normans Toy shop down St Peters Ave , I think they had one down Freemo too. I used to get all my toy soldiers from there
When we first came to Grimsby in 1966 to look for a house I was bribed to put up with trailing round loads of houses with a box of Airfix 00 scale British WW1 soldiers from Normans. Later when I was hooked on Subbuteo Evingtons in town was the place to be. |
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When we first came to Grimsby in 1966 to look for a house I was bribed to put up with trailing round loads of houses with a box of Airfix 00 scale British WW1 soldiers from Normans.
Later when I was hooked on Subbuteo Evingtons in town was the place to be.
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Don't forget Loftus on Grimsby Rd / Elliston St corner.
That's the one I was trying to remember. Great for airfix and model trains. |
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BRADLEYS on Yarborough road was pretty amazing, another awe inspiring window display.
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That's the one I was trying to remember. Great for airfix and model trains.
It had petrol pumps behind it until a car crashed into them being chased by the old bill, must have been in the early 70's. I use to got sent there to get paraffin for the heaters at home. Good old days and some great players for town. |
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They sold you parraffin , quick call HSE !
Remember loftus well ,bought an England Subbuteo team from there .
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As the guy responsible for the hi-jacking of this thread (I mentioned Mad Harrys), may I take this opportunity to apologise to anyone under the age of 174 who have no idea what us old farts are on about. But maybe one day in about 30 years time you'll be doing the same about the old ground called Blundell Park. The Parkway cinema, Freeman St etc etc.
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Is Hewins still there? - was near the mcdonalds in town
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As the guy responsible for the hi-jacking of this thread (I mentioned Mad Harrys), may I take this opportunity to apologise to anyone under the age of 174 who have no idea what us old farts are on about. But maybe one day in about 30 years time you'll be doing the same about the old ground called Blundell Park. The Parkway cinema, Freeman St etc etc.
Your turn will come yoof, and quicker than you would realise.
Don't worry, it's a benign hijack. As Town fans, we all love a good old reminisce. As for 30 years hence, they'll be laughing at us being photographed with our primitive and chunky iPads/smart phones |
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Is Hewins still there? - was near the mcdonalds in town
It's still near there. There's a small arcade running down near there and Hewins is at the back there. Or at least it was last time I looked which would have been, erm, 15 years ago? |
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Loftus's was a great toy shop. Although not the mystery investor here as they went bust. My dad and grandparents lived opposite Loftus's so I used to drool at their shop window before and after matches. When I was a kid of course. They don't make toy shops like that anymore. |
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Wasn't hewins called models & hobbies awesone shop...got a dew airfix llans, lead figures to paint and a radio controlled cosworth worth £120. The days lol
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As the guy responsible for the hi-jacking of this thread (I mentioned Mad Harrys), may I take this opportunity to apologise to anyone under the age of 174 who have no idea what us old farts are on about. But maybe one day in about 30 years time you'll be doing the same about the old ground called Blundell Park. The Parkway cinema, Freeman St etc etc.
Your turn will come yoof, and quicker than you would realise.
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Yes my mam worked in that Woolies and I always remember going to the Bazaar to buy caps for my cowboy gun and the rocket you would throw has high as you could and hope it came down straight so that it would make a bang.
Council will require you and anyone in the vicinity to wear hard hats ear and eye protection with warning notices around your throwing perimeter before you are allowed to play in that fashion nowerdays------Boo Fenty out |
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Loftus's was a great toy shop. Although not the mystery investor here as they went bust. My dad and grandparents lived opposite Loftus's so I used to drool at their shop window before and after matches. When I was a kid of course. They don't make toy shops like that anymore.
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On the Woolworth front. When it first became apparent they were struggling a mate of mine came up with a possible solution. If everyone that had ever nicked goodies or toys from them, gave back a quid. They would never have folded !! (Reckon I'd have put a fiver in ). |
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Civvy the things we do as kids.....i use to be one of those annoying kids that messed about with BOYES lift lol
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Civvy the things we do as kids.....i use to be one of those annoying kids that messed about with BOYES lift lol
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Anyone remember that shop that relocated to Newport.......... |
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What was the hotel called opposite side of the road to Loftus toy shop?
Humberside hotel |
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I'd completely forgotten about Normans.
Amazing how many toyshops there were around. What do kids do these days?
Think Hewins has gone now? Although that fits more into the model shop category like Loftus. For boys of all ages.
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I'd completely forgotten about Normans.
Amazing how many toyshops there were around. What do kids do these days?
Think Hewins has gone now? Although that fits more into the model shop category like Loftus. For boys of all ages.
They get an Xbox or PS4 and they never leave their bedrooms. |
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Board games are making a bit of a comeback though..Have you seen the complexity of them, not just shake a dice and move round the board now. I've just played 'settlers of catan' and loved every minute of it.
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Board games are making a bit of a comeback though..Have you seen the complexity of them, not just shake a dice and move round the board now. I've just played 'settlers of catan' and loved every minute of it.
There are some complex ones around. Sad geek that I am, I like this http://www.histogame.de/e_maria.html but I can only find 2 other people willing to play it and they're 200 miles apart (you really need min 3 to play it). |
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Humberside hotel
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it does not matter who the mystery investor is because we will NEVER get permission to build the darn thing EVER. More stalling tactics by our useless councilors. http://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.....22-detail/story.html
Sadly I agree we have a backward thinking council who couldn't get the block paving right outside of gy train station. It's all about their personal agendas IMO not about the long term good of the town |
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I disagree, seems the council are put on a lot of work and doing their due diligence on where is best for the borough after being persuaded a community stadium would be of benefit. On the other side Fenty with his insistence on Peaks Parkway so houses can be built around doesn't sit right with me... does he stand to be able to claim back his benign loans from this? You put your money into a football club you shouldn't expect it back (unless a Premier giant), it's a labour of love. Yesterday's Cod Almighty diary put this brilliantly:
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Fenty is a well-intentioned fan, living the dream of having the wealth to play a part in the fortunes of his team. In this respect, I salute him for putting his own money into the club. This is the point where the sympathy ends. Sorry John, but if your decisions directly increased the club's debt, that's your debt. The paid-up contracts, the sackings, the relegation. You're out of pocket, we're out of our minds. There comes a point when you've got to write it off. Your investment can go down as well as up, and all that.
Unfortunately – and perhaps unsurprisingly given his track record – he doesn't see it like this. The majority shareholder has ruled out all other stadium options and is set on Peaks Parkway. This isn't Neil Woods/Mike Newell vote of confidence certain. This is completely and utterly, hands-over-ears, Russ-is-never-worth-that certain. He says "common sense" rules out everywhere but Peaks Parkway.
Amid repeated mentions of "site masterplans", one master plan is apparent. One that enables the club to pay back £4million and some poxy mystery developer to afford another ivory back scratcher. The fans? We'll be left with a skip on a by-pass surrounded by concrete naffness while the town centre rots and the rest of GY along with it.
Politicians know that most of the electorate are lazy arses who don't want to think about complexity, to use their brain to make an informed choice. So they boil it all down to a couple of high-stakes, fear-inducing headline choices. Do you really want them immigrunts coming over stealing your benefits? Are you a terrorist sympathiser who wants to blow us up?
The club has done this with the stadium – do you want the club to survive? They don't need to provide most of the punters with the facts to back it up – hearing that question from a man in a nice suit is enough for the majority. In a moment of weakness I answered the club's rallying call last year and went with the trust party whip. All off a sudden we're told that 86 per cent want Peaks Parkway. You can uncount me now that we've seen the full facts.
Some might argue that Fenty has kept us afloat and he's entitled to favour the project that will get his cash back. I don't agree. The fans and the club's 137 years deserve a stadium built through a transparent process where the best site is picked for the right long-term reasons.
It's time for everyone concerned to do what's best for the long-term future of the club and the real community that it belongs to. Give the other sites a fair crack and ensure all funding options are fully examined. Identify every FSIF, EU, council, government, Young's Dockside Arena and supporter penny. For example, I haven't got it in my wallet (or my bank account for that matter) but I'd commit £1,000 a year for a season ticket for 10 years. Could we find another 1,000 loons willing to do the same? That's 10 million quid and we're halfway there. Crazy talk... but have we asked the question? There are other ways to do it (as Rapid Wien have found).
And I've said it before and will probably say it again – look at FC United. See if you can find "enabling development" in their stadium funding.
Luckily we have the trust and our two places on the board. They have toed the Peaks Parkway line to date, but I believe in the trust. Dave and Jon are our voices in the boardroom and if we shout loud enough long enough, the rest of the board will eventually have to listen.
Hope they don't mind me quotingIt's a viewpoint I've long held but kept my gob shut as I just want a new stadium but right now amazingly I'm liking the sounds coming from the council over our esteemed leader. I've always thought their viewpoints a tad harsh buy bang on what they been saying about the stadium. I've alway stuck up for Fenty but I wonder what kind of hissy fit he would throw if the council decided another plot in everybody's best interest? COMMUNITY Stadium remember... A stadium on a tranquil edge of town with a new housing estate round it (sought after area -kerching), next to the crematorium on green fields when we could be regenerating somewhere and building a legacy to be proud of -no brainer for me. Freeman Street is too big a project for me but the idea of Garth Lane 'Dockside Stadium' is awe inspiring, the stands looking over the Freshney and the Docks with the Fishing Heritage Centre close by. Lots of pubs close by, would revive the area and what a better match day experience walking along the riverside etc etc The old buildings where the Tap and Spile is was could be renovated as part and bring a great historic element. Alexandra retail park, looking a bit jaded could be used a car park overfill and perhaps some of those tenants moved into the stands with their old units bulldozed to create more space? People argue about access but things will be chokka for ten minutes after a game wherever it is. You can't say the one junction coming out of PP will be any less hell than any of the other sites. |
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Rik e B your post (and the Cod Almighty) sums up my thoughts exactly. I to went along with the whole Peaks Parkway scheme out of desperation for a new stadium, but all along my gut feeling was (and still is) that it is just not the RIGHT place for the ground. I sincerely believe the new ground should be at the heart of the community, as it has been for over 100 years. There is a wealth of information available online, moving away from the idea that "out of town" is the best place to relocate new stadia and inner city redevelopment is the way forward. The more I think about it and discuss with others the less I can see there being any advantage to having a new stadium at Peaks Parkway, apart of course the enabling development. But this should not be the overriding decisive factor. If a new stadium cannot be developed for all the right reasons, then it should not be built at all. The Town and football club has to get this right. The Peaks Parkway site, I believe, will lead ultimately to traffic congestion and will prove just too far out of the way for many to be bothered. I cannot see why a new ground if located at PP would increase attendances. The way Fenty is behaving, stubornly pushing the PP option, when the council are trying to make the RIGHT decision BEST for the town, leaves a bitter taste.
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I still think freemo ticks more boxes than any other for what it's worth. Could lead to a massive redevelopment of not just that area but, even further to freshney place, pyewipe etc
The traffic infrastructure is there already (straight off the a180, gy docks train), the area is crying out for redevelopment and it would remain at the heart of the town/community.
Yes it would take a hell of a lot of time to get through red tape etc, but it certainly would make a huge impact on the area.
I think peakes parkway will be chosen in all honesty. It's not a bad option, I just feel that moving out of town is wrong.
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I have always thought that pp is to out of town.
For me freeman St/ riby sq is the best option, however coming round to Garth lane.
I would much rather go to a ground that is surrounded by pubs shops cafes etc than a faceless out of town development
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Rik e B your post (and the Cod Almighty) sums up my thoughts exactly. I to went along with the whole Peaks Parkway scheme out of desperation for a new stadium, but all along my gut feeling was (and still is) that it is just not the RIGHT place for the ground. I sincerely believe the new ground should be at the heart of the community, as it has been for over 100 years. There is a wealth of information available online, moving away from the idea that "out of town" is the best place to relocate new stadia and inner city redevelopment is the way forward. The more I think about it and discuss with others the less I can see there being any advantage to having a new stadium at Peaks Parkway, apart of course the enabling development. But this should not be the overriding decisive factor. If a new stadium cannot be developed for all the right reasons, then it should not be built at all. The Town and football club has to get this right. The Peaks Parkway site, I believe, will lead ultimately to traffic congestion and will prove just too far out of the way for many to be bothered. I cannot see why a new ground if located at PP would increase attendances. The way Fenty is behaving, stubornly pushing the PP option, when the council are trying to make the RIGHT decision BEST for the town, leaves a bitter taste.
A good post IMO but some aspects need challenging in the interest of furthering the debate. Firstly you have to decide what "The community" actually is. It is unarguable that a site in Freeman St. or the "Top Town" area would be built in an area more densely populated but for a stadium to be built for the benefit of the WHOLE of the area covered by N.E. Lincs neither site comes close to being central to the area. Geographically Peakes Parkway is pretty close to being in the centre of N.E. Lincs. From the football clubs point of view they will have a pretty good idea of where their fan base is based informed by ticket sales and that information will have helped to inform the decision. Secondly lets deal with the point about traffic congestion. It is quite frankly ludicrous to suggest that only the Peakes Parkway site will see traffic chaos. The majority of the people who use their cars to get to Blundell Park would continue to do so as people exercise their right to avoid public transport. Freeman St as a whole is served by no more bus services than Blundell Park. The difference with the two town centre sites is that the car traffic would be adding to already huge numbers of cars using the roads around the Town centre on the busiest shopping day of the week. The other aspect to consider is that with a Community Stadium providing other as yet unnamed facilities will see a general increase in traffic volumes. It is fair to say that with the size of crowds currently attending Blundell Park the congestion is not as serious as it might be. However I'm sure that all Town fans and the club want to see us far higher up the pyramid. What happens then? I shudder to think of the difficulties with large crowds on a fairly regular basis should we reach the Championship. These crowds would contain a large contingent of away fans adding to the road problems. In my mind it would be a lot easier to manage the traffic on ONE of the roads into town than attempt to alter the whole of the network in a very built up area. The third point is regarding choosing the right spot or not moving at all. If you accept the view coming out of the club backed by continued figures showing substantial losses year on year that Blundell Park is unsustainable then not to move isn't an option if we are to continue to have a football club bailed out by one mans money. If outside investment could be attracted that position may well change. In light of this it is also worth pointing out that any project to build on Freeman St. would take 10 years by the councjl's own estimate. It should also be remembered that initially the Peakes Parkway site was offered to GTFC by the NELC Labour Party cabinet. All other action regarding feasibility has stemmed from that. Having said that it is true that the goalposts have been moved by the decision taken to knock down the Freeman St. flats. |
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A good post IMO but some aspects need challenging in the interest of furthering the debate.
Firstly you have to decide what "The community" actually is. It is unarguable that a site in Freeman St. or the "Top Town" area would be built in an area more densely populated but for a stadium to be built for the benefit of the WHOLE of the area covered by N.E. Lincs neither site comes close to being central to the area. Geographically Peakes Parkway is pretty close to being in the centre of N.E. Lincs. From the football clubs point of view they will have a pretty good idea of where their fan base is based informed by ticket sales and that information will have helped to inform the decision.
Secondly lets deal with the point about traffic congestion. It is quite frankly ludicrous to suggest that only the Peakes Parkway site will see traffic chaos. The majority of the people who use their cars to get to Blundell Park would continue to do so as people exercise their right to avoid public transport. Freeman St as a whole is served by no more bus services than Blundell Park. The difference with the two town centre sites is that the car traffic would be adding to already huge numbers of cars using the roads around the Town centre on the busiest shopping day of the week. The other aspect to consider is that with a Community Stadium providing other as yet unnamed facilities will see a general increase in traffic volumes. It is fair to say that with the size of crowds currently attending Blundell Park the congestion is not as serious as it might be. However I'm sure that all Town fans and the club want to see us far higher up the pyramid. What happens then? I shudder to think of the difficulties with large crowds on a fairly regular basis should we reach the Championship. These crowds would contain a large contingent of away fans adding to the road problems. In my mind it would be a lot easier to manage the traffic on ONE of the roads into town than attempt to alter the whole of the network in a very built up area.
The third point is regarding choosing the right spot or not moving at all. If you accept the view coming out of the club backed by continued figures showing substantial losses year on year that Blundell Park is unsustainable then not to move isn't an option if we are to continue to have a football club bailed out by one mans money. If outside investment could be attracted that position may well change.
In light of this it is also worth pointing out that any project to build on Freeman St. would take 10 years by the councjl's own estimate.
It should also be remembered that initially the Peakes Parkway site was offered to GTFC by the NELC Labour Party cabinet. All other action regarding feasibility has stemmed from that. Having said that it is true that the goalposts have been moved by the decision taken to knock down the Freeman St. flats.
I rarely disagree with your point of view Barralad, and can't find anything here to dispute either. If we could wave a wand and have a new stadium tomorrow Freeman St would possibly be at the top of my list, great for the town etc but in reality I can't see anything other than Peaks Parkway working. |
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I hope this too ing and fro ing does not become bitter, with people who are in the decision making positions becoming bored with the subject at the detriment ofr a new ground, or am I not in the real world
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The big word is IF in all this however IF the Council guaranteed Freemo in 10 years for a new ground would that be acceptable? I for one think Freemo/Docks is the best and most sensible place to build a ground due to it being fairly central,straight off the motorway and pubs etc in the vicinity.PP whilst I supported it out of desperation like may others would not be my first choice and do we really need to build on greenbelt land when we have adequate brown belt as the Council are pointing out.I have battered the Council for many things over many years and feel they have never helped this Football Club at all however this time around I think they seem very positive and I have more confidence that this ground will happen.Just where?
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The big word is IF in all this however IF the Council guaranteed Freemo in 10 years for a new ground would that be acceptable? I for one think Freemo/Docks is the best and most sensible place to build a ground due to it being fairly central,straight off the motorway and pubs etc in the vicinity.PP whilst I supported it out of desperation like may others would not be my first choice and do we really need to build on greenbelt land when we have adequate brown belt as the Council are pointing out.I have battered the Council for many things over many years and feel they have never helped this Football Club at all however this time around I think they seem very positive and I have more confidence that this ground will happen.Just where?
The answer to the first highlighted part of your post is definitely no. The second highlighted part baffles me some what to be honest. Freeman St is not central to the area and as barralad has already said in his post, the club know where and what areas the fans come from and feel that pp is the most central location. The part that keeps coming up is the motorway statement, why? How many home fans travel down the motorway to get to bp, hardly any at a guess. All that's doing is catering for away fans IMO that visit once a year. Peaks Parkway all day long for me |
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For me, next to Morrisons is best. The edge of town I agree, but to put it anywhere in central town I've no idea where everyone will park. Laceby has roads to several parts of the town and beyond.Is also good for away supporters and possible to operate a Park and Ride scheme there if need be.
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If the PP option could be built as a stand alone development there would be a good case for it. Traffic would be manageable, the site is reasonably central. The problem with PP is that a stadium cannot be built there as a stand alone development because nobody will pay for that to happen. There would never be a return on the investment and the community use would hardly pay for the upkeep. And of course it is a greenfield site.
That is the stumbling block. Every developer wants a greenfield site because it's easy, straight in, build and straight out with a bag full of cash. There would be no shortage of big developers who would chip in a lot of money for a stadium if they were allowed to build a couple of housing estates along the Parkway as part of the deal. This is where the PP argument falls down because the stadium suddenly ceases to be out on its own and no bother to anyone. The stadium is actually slap bang in the middle of housing and it is the housing that will cause the traffic problems, it is the housing that will cause demand for a new school, medical and retail facilities and before you know it, PP is a major dormitory estate or two joining up to New Waltham with GTFC right in the middle.
This has now dawned on even the dimmest of NELC planners (and there are some dim ones down there), and that is why the PP slid down their preferences. The argument is that the stadium might as well be somewhere that the council needs to get redeveloped i.e. a brownfield site. That is the real community issue that they are on about.
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Is the position of Glanford Park really that bad? Other than not being close to pubs.
I do like the idea of a town centre stadium, St James Park as an example but we cant have that so surely anywhere in the will do
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A good post IMO but some aspects need challenging in the interest of furthering the debate.
Firstly you have to decide what "The community" actually is. It is unarguable that a site in Freeman St. or the "Top Town" area would be built in an area more densely populated but for a stadium to be built for the benefit of the WHOLE of the area covered by N.E. Lincs neither site comes close to being central to the area. Geographically Peakes Parkway is pretty close to being in the centre of N.E. Lincs. From the football clubs point of view they will have a pretty good idea of where their fan base is based informed by ticket sales and that information will have helped to inform the decision.
Secondly lets deal with the point about traffic congestion. It is quite frankly ludicrous to suggest that only the Peakes Parkway site will see traffic chaos. The majority of the people who use their cars to get to Blundell Park would continue to do so as people exercise their right to avoid public transport. Freeman St as a whole is served by no more bus services than Blundell Park. The difference with the two town centre sites is that the car traffic would be adding to already huge numbers of cars using the roads around the Town centre on the busiest shopping day of the week. The other aspect to consider is that with a Community Stadium providing other as yet unnamed facilities will see a general increase in traffic volumes. It is fair to say that with the size of crowds currently attending Blundell Park the congestion is not as serious as it might be. However I'm sure that all Town fans and the club want to see us far higher up the pyramid. What happens then? I shudder to think of the difficulties with large crowds on a fairly regular basis should we reach the Championship. These crowds would contain a large contingent of away fans adding to the road problems. In my mind it would be a lot easier to manage the traffic on ONE of the roads into town than attempt to alter the whole of the network in a very built up area.
The third point is regarding choosing the right spot or not moving at all. If you accept the view coming out of the club backed by continued figures showing substantial losses year on year that Blundell Park is unsustainable then not to move isn't an option if we are to continue to have a football club bailed out by one mans money. If outside investment could be attracted that position may well change.
In light of this it is also worth pointing out that any project to build on Freeman St. would take 10 years by the councjl's own estimate.
It should also be remembered that initially the Peakes Parkway site was offered to GTFC by the NELC Labour Party cabinet. All other action regarding feasibility has stemmed from that. Having said that it is true that the goalposts have been moved by the decision taken to knock down the Freeman St. flats.
Excellent stuff. Peakes Parkway will create no more traffic than any of the other sites, we have to move for the financial future of the club and the wait for Freemo might be too long. Yes, I get all the emotive stuff about re-developing the East Marsh but I just think we've wasted enough time already. |
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I'm not totally convinced a town centre site (or any location for that matter) will generate the town. Construction will create jobs temporarily (which is not to be sniffed at). Where new sports facilities create new business and jobs it tends to be in the immediate vicinity but there's a large element of displacement.
People only have so much money to spend, and unless it attracts more people to the area, you're just moving the spending from one part of town to another. Now a new ground with better facilities might attract more people to go to the match but that probably just means they won't spend that money on something else. That's good if they would otherwise spend the money on something that wouldn't benefit the local economy (Amazon, Sky/BT/Virgin, weekend in Bridlington) but I wouldn't overplay the benefits of redevelopment.
Having said that, Top Town for me is looking like the best prospect. Its right at the centre of public transport (all buses head there), it's closer to the A180 than PP. It's not far from the station. For all the hordes of away fans that will clog up the roads in the town centre if we make it back into the big time, we will have the same problem at PP with none of the public transport benefits. And none of the erm, social benefits, of Top Town pubs and eateries.
As someone pointed out to me today, a football ground is a cultural facility in the same way that a church (or I suppose museum) is. Would anyone suggest relocating Lincoln cathedral because it's difficult to drive to?
One final point, do we know what it would cost to construct a stadium with 14,000 capacity? I have the figure of £22m in my head but I don't know if that's come from any "official" source or just from gossip on here. And do we know how much that would cost to maintain compared to what Blundell Park costs? I keep hearing that BP is unsustainable, but how much is it?
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I'm not totally convinced a town centre site (or any location for that matter) will generate the town. Construction will create jobs temporarily (which is not to be sniffed at). Where new sports facilities create new business and jobs it tends to be in the immediate vicinity but there's a large element of displacement.
People only have so much money to spend, and unless it attracts more people to the area, you're just moving the spending from one part of town to another. Now a new ground with better facilities might attract more people to go to the match but that probably just means they won't spend that money on something else. That's good if they would otherwise spend the money on something that wouldn't benefit the local economy (Amazon, Sky/BT/Virgin, weekend in Bridlington) but I wouldn't overplay the benefits of redevelopment.
Having said that, Top Town for me is looking like the best prospect. Its right at the centre of public transport (all buses head there), it's closer to the A180 than PP. It's not far from the station. For all the hordes of away fans that will clog up the roads in the town centre if we make it back into the big time, we will have the same problem at PP with none of the public transport benefits. And none of the erm, social benefits, of Top Town pubs and eateries.
As someone pointed out to me today, a football ground is a cultural facility in the same way that a church (or I suppose museum) is. Would anyone suggest relocating Lincoln cathedral because it's difficult to drive to?
One final point, do we know what it would cost to construct a stadium with 14,000 capacity? I have the figure of £22m in my head but I don't know if that's come from any "official" source or just from gossip on here. And do we know how much that would cost to maintain compared to what Blundell Park costs? I keep hearing that BP is unsustainable, but how much is it?
Excellent points for me about the redistribution of spending. I can't agree about the potential for job creation. We don't know the nature of the investment yet but if it is retail and we get some concrete plans there is plenty of evidence around the country that developments attract other retailers anxious for a slice of the pie. Pub and retail food companies are always looking for opportunities to sell a few more pints/pies. It's not my scene particularly but there is no doubt that it creates jobs. As for relocating Lincoln cathedral (LMAO)....the example hardly mirrors the situation at B.P. When Lincoln cathedral starts to fall down people from all over the place throw money at the repairs. Once B.P.is recognised as a major site of worship the C of E might cough up. Until then we are reliant on St. John.. |
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http://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.....18-detail/story.htmlI think if you are to beleive and read the points raised by the shop owner above, and I have no reason to dispute, then I would argue this is exactly what everyone thinks freemo is like.# I also cannot aee how squashing a football stadium in next to that is really going to make any difference. As I have said before, are you really going to want to leave your car near there or take you kid with you or let your teenager risk going on their own, exactly what sort of shops, cafes etc would be interested in this amazing retail opportunity?
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http://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.....18-detail/story.htmlI think if you are to beleive and read the points raised by the shop owner above, and I have no reason to dispute, then I would argue this is exactly what everyone thinks freemo is like.# I also cannot aee how squashing a football stadium in next to that is really going to make any difference. As I have said before, are you really going to want to leave your car near there or take you kid with you or let your teenager risk going on their own, exactly what sort of shops, cafes etc would be interested in this amazing retail opportunity?
I'm not trying to push for the Freemo site at all but I think you are missing the point. The ground would not be surrounded by slums and druggies. Putting the ground there would be one small part of a total regeneration of the area by a developer and the council. Hence the 10 years. |
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I'm not trying to push for the Freemo site at all but I think you are missing the point. The ground would not be surrounded by slums and druggies. Putting the ground there would be one small part of a total regeneration of the area by a developer and the council. Hence the 10 years.
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Have we got a spare 10 years?
Maybe not. I'm just trying to make the situation a bit clearer. All the in-town choices have big long term problems, including the PW. Sad though it is and you and I may not like it, but there are people out there who think there's more important things in life than a new ground for GTFC and the decisions are in their hands not ours. |
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Its ok saying 10 years time Freemo will be a good site, so if the council decide this then so be it BUT in 10 years time the council will have gone through at least 2 elections and Councilors and officers will have changed.
Who is to say they would not back track like they have done for the last 15 years.
Secondly all who say Garth Lane would be good site, there is minor issue is its not big enough to fit our current ground never mind a new one with more facilities.
If you super impose PB over Garth Lane on Google maps does not even early fit.
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Garth Lane is an absolute non-starter for two reasons. As Rob-in-Grimsby says, there just isn't enough land - and secondly if you think that Peaks Parkway would cause traffic problems that would be nothing compared to Garth Lane!
Freeman Street certainly has merits but it would take 10 years minimum.
The other problem which blights all the plans except Peaks Parkway is the potential for an enabling development - how on earth is the Club going to find 20 odd million to build a stadium without it?
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As I've said several times, what's the problem with being next to Morrisons?
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Though we had a mystery investor Tarka or is this a red hearing to try and force the councils hand?
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I find all this emphasis on existing access routes a bit of a non-starter. Much is made on any site being close to the A180 but apart from visiting fans how many football fans coming into town use this route compared to those from the rest of the town? I would imagine a greater number come down the Peaks Parkway from the Walthams, Scartho and Holton le Clay areas. The Peaks Parkway has the ability to be turned into a dual-carriageway ( which it should have been in the first place ) and certainly will be in the future when more out of town development is done in that direction. Surely it would be better for the football traffic to come down the Parkway for half its length to access a ground than to travel the full distance into the centre of town and create more of a bottle neck in the centre. We also have the rail link mentioned but the only stations that are used for connections to other major areas only stop at Grimsby Town and Cleethorpes. None of the Rail Companies that use the route into Grimsby would change their timetables to accommodate stopping at Grimsby Docks or Clee Sidings just because of possible football related passengers on 23 occasions a year - it just won't happen. There are no bus routes on the Parkway but they will come once the area becomes developed. Bus routes were introduced once the Willows Estate was developed in the late 60's and that service was extended when Wybers Wood was built in the late 70's. Once an area comes into commercial/habitation use then the public bus service will follow.
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I find all this emphasis on existing access routes a bit of a non-starter. Much is made on any site being close to the A180 but apart from visiting fans how many football fans coming into town use this route compared to those from the rest of the town? I would imagine a greater number come down the Peaks Parkway from the Walthams, Scartho and Holton le Clay areas. The Peaks Parkway has the ability to be turned into a dual-carriageway ( which it should have been in the first place ) and certainly will be in the future when more out of town development is done in that direction. Surely it would be better for the football traffic to come down the Parkway for half its length to access a ground than to travel the full distance into the centre of town and create more of a bottle neck in the centre. We also have the rail link mentioned but the only stations that are used for connections to other major areas only stop at Grimsby Town and Cleethorpes. None of the Rail Companies that use the route into Grimsby would change their timetables to accommodate stopping at Grimsby Docks or Clee Sidings just because of possible football related passengers on 23 occasions a year - it just won't happen. There are no bus routes on the Parkway but they will come once the area becomes developed. Bus routes were introduced once the Willows Estate was developed in the late 60's and that service was extended when Wybers Wood was built in the late 70's. Once an area comes into commercial/habitation use then the public bus service will follow.
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I find all this emphasis on existing access routes a bit of a non-starter. Much is made on any site being close to the A180 but apart from visiting fans how many football fans coming into town use this route compared to those from the rest of the town? I would imagine a greater number come down the Peaks Parkway from the Walthams, Scartho and Holton le Clay areas. The Peaks Parkway has the ability to be turned into a dual-carriageway ( which it should have been in the first place ) and certainly will be in the future when more out of town development is done in that direction. Surely it would be better for the football traffic to come down the Parkway for half its length to access a ground than to travel the full distance into the centre of town and create more of a bottle neck in the centre. We also have the rail link mentioned but the only stations that are used for connections to other major areas only stop at Grimsby Town and Cleethorpes. None of the Rail Companies that use the route into Grimsby would change their timetables to accommodate stopping at Grimsby Docks or Clee Sidings just because of possible football related passengers on 23 occasions a year - it just won't happen. There are no bus routes on the Parkway but they will come once the area becomes developed. Bus routes were introduced once the Willows Estate was developed in the late 60's and that service was extended when Wybers Wood was built in the late 70's. Once an area comes into commercial/habitation use then the public bus service will follow.
I think you are right about access. The main priority isn't away fans, it's home fans and every in-town site has a problem with that. Even the Parkway won't be easy to reach by car for a lot of people especially when a developer has built a housing estate next door. |
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[quote=59][/b]Though we had a mystery investor Tarka or is this a red hearing to try and force the councils hand?[[b]/quote]
No red herring (or hearing) definitely a investor talking to GTFC
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They've tried allsorts over the years to regenerate Freemo, it's just been a total waste.
Freemo will never rise from the ashes and even a football ground wouldn't make a difference.
Not one penny more should be wasted on that dump of an area
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Sorry Gimps you are wrong on many levels, Fact: Nothing as been tried over the years to regenerate Freemo in fact it as been deliberately left to rot, Freshney place as been given preference for years.
Freemo CAN rise from the ashes and is doing, a Football stadium/retail development would be a stunning solution to that end of the street.
Thousands of pounds as been wasted on Freshney place.
Freemo is starting to improve more money and development SHOULD be encouraged if that includes a community site so be it.
I am sure grants are available to rejuvenate inner city/town areas.
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They've tried allsorts over the years to regenerate Freemo, it's just been a total waste.
Freemo will never rise from the ashes and even a football ground wouldn't make a difference.
Not one penny more should be wasted on that dump of an area
They've tried nothing over the years is the reality,that area is in the bottom 1% of poverty stricken areas in the country and as been for yonks. |
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Lost cause yes, my view too unfortunately I'd register support and take a house on new estate next to Peaks Parkway (PP) if loyal Town fans got a discount/help to buy |
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Excellent points for me about the redistribution of spending. I can't agree about the potential for job creation. We don't know the nature of the investment yet but if it is retail and we get some concrete plans there is plenty of evidence around the country that developments attract other retailers anxious for a slice of the pie. Pub and retail food companies are always looking for opportunities to sell a few more pints/pies. It's not my scene particularly but there is no doubt that it creates jobs.
As for relocating Lincoln cathedral (LMAO)....the example hardly mirrors the situation at B.P. When Lincoln cathedral starts to fall down people from all over the place throw money at the repairs. Once B.P.is recognised as a major site of worship the C of E might cough up. Until then we are reliant on St. John..
Slightly tongue in cheek reference to the big church on the hill. But it was meant as a comment about a little difficulty in getting there not putting people off if the overall experience is worthwhile. There will be traffic congestion if it's a town centre site but it won't be insufferable. Pubs and shops are closing left right and centre. And I'm not sure there's such a big unmet demand in NELincs for more eateries, that will persuade people to spend spare cash that they would otherwise have saved. If there are better facilities in a town, then that increases the chances of attracting people (and companies) to relocate but it's quite a step from having a new football ground to growing as an economy. Overall though, the case will be strengthened by some hard numbers. |
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Slightly tongue in cheek reference to the big church on the hill. But it was meant as a comment about a little difficulty in getting there not putting people off if the overall experience is worthwhile. There will be traffic congestion if it's a town centre site but it won't be insufferable.
Pubs and shops are closing left right and centre. And I'm not sure there's such a big unmet demand in NELincs for more eateries, that will persuade people to spend spare cash that they would otherwise have saved.
If there are better facilities in a town, then that increases the chances of attracting people (and companies) to relocate but it's quite a step from having a new football ground to growing as an economy.
Overall though, the case will be strengthened by some hard numbers.
Beechwood Farm ( ? ) seems to be doing ok on the Europarc and you can't get much more out of town and still be within the developed part of NE Lincs. |
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Beechwood Farm ( ? ) seems to be doing ok on the Europarc and you can't get much more out of town and still be within the developed part of NE Lincs.
Do you mean everywhere else is so busy that people trek all the way out there for a skate and chips or whatever, or is it a real cheffy place that can only be bettered if it was in close proximity to a new football ground? |
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Do you mean everywhere else is so busy that people trek all the way out there for a skate and chips or whatever, or is it a real cheffy place that can only be bettered if it was in close proximity to a new football ground?
I was answering a question about questioning an unmet demand in the Grimsby area for eateries and using an example that people will come to one that is not in a presently developed area. Having a place to eat in close proximity to a new ground or even as part of the development will surely benefit the whole project. |
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Nandos please! [img]https://media3.giphy.com/media/4pnTXbttpAdC8/giphy.gif[/img]
As mentioned by myself before, it will take a LONG time for nandos to open in Grimsby |
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Nandos is just fancy chicken.
A proper chippy would be great, preferably run by the club.
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I've only been to a Nandos once. It was possibly some of the worst-cooked chicken I've ever eaten. Bloody awful place.
On the other hand, the Italian chains such as Pizza Express and Prezzo aren't bad generally. Surprised we don't have one of those in the area already, truth be told. Proper pizza available from those places unlike fast food Pizza Hut.
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Prezzo and Pizza express are average pizzas made to look posh. Agree with ginny that a club run chip shop similar to Harry Ramsdens (but a lot better) would go down really well.
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As I posted in November on one of the previous threads the current sites being considered were evaluated against the council's criteria including size for stadium, minimum number of parking spaces, transport links, access to stadium, community requirements (additional sports and educational facilities) etc.
Of all the sites considered freeman street was rated poor on a number of them hence the reason it came out so low on the list. For a start the area available is not big enough for the stadium and sufficient car parking so ranked very low but the council see potential income from regeneration schemes that they would not have to commit money to invest in the area themselves and therefore meet their cost savings.
Great coates was ruled out due to lack of transport and roads around the area would not be able to cope as nearly all the traffic would be going through Grimsby. The docks would require a significant amount of work assuming that the land would be released and again site access and transport was an issue (traffic backing onto major routes causing disruption).
Not one site ticked every single box but the highest scoring site using the council's criteria and weighting was Peaks Parkway!. Committing more money on another survey using the same (or very similar criteria) is likely to come out with the same result. Lets just make a decision so the process can go forward with detailed design and planning being applied for. Then I might see this happen before the end of my lifetime!!
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Prezzo and Pizza express are average pizzas made to look posh. Agree with ginny that a club run chip shop similar to Harry Ramsdens (but a lot better) would go down really well.
Didn't we have one of the national pizza chains in the Brighowgate/Wellowgate area which closed down? I think it is an Indian restaurant now. |
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Prezzo and Pizza express are average pizzas made to look posh. Agree with ginny that a club run chip shop similar to Harry Ramsdens (but a lot better) would go down really well.
Prezzo far superior to Pizza Express as is Ask. Just my opinion mind. |
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I've never tried Nandos but love chicken and thought it must be great. There's no Frankie & Bennies, TFI Fridays or anything like that in GY. A couple of restaurants of that ilk around the ground would make it a cool destination.
An indoor climbing wall etc another idea to make the place a good destination for a day out for families but can't see it going that far. Wouldn't be hard to incorporate though.
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An indoor climbing wall etc another idea to make the place a good destination for a day out for families but can't see it going that far. Wouldn't be hard to incorporate though.
A bit like the walls we used to climb over at the back of the Barratt stand when we changed ends at half time? |
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One vote for a Linekers Bar, a Neptunes, a Fatty Arbuckles, a Blue Oyster Bar, a Cheers Bar, a Fat Sams Speakeasy, a Coyote Ugly Bar, a Chicagos, Mendoncas Bar and a Ski Dome.....
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I was answering a question about questioning an unmet demand in the Grimsby area for eateries and using an example that people will come to one that is not in a presently developed area. Having a place to eat in close proximity to a new ground or even as part of the development will surely benefit the whole project.
Sorry to be a bit lairy the other day. Was a bit, erm, brusque. There's plenty of places in GY and Clps to eat with next to no one in them. At best all a new one near the stadium will do is move custom from A to B. May be good for the stadium funding but it isn't going to help regenerate the town. Same cake just sliced differently. Unless it was so good it attracted people from away to come to the town. I'd just be cautious about the regenerative impact of a new stadium, whether in town or out of it. I'm sure the Council and its officers realise that, but we oughtn't to get our hopes up. |
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Its an Indian restaurant in Birmingham and it was amazing. And everytime we went it was packed even during the week. I know its Birmingham and is far bigger than gy.
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