Some analysis.........

...........from the CTFC forum


CTFC have got 35 points from 16 away games (2.19 ppg) , 34 from 15 home (2.27ppg) = 69 points from 31 - so our record home and away are very similar

FGR have 43 points from 17 home (2.53ppg) , and 25 from 15 away (1.67ppg) (68 points from 32) - so very much a "home" team

Grimsby 21 points from 13 away games (1.62ppg) , 34 from 16 home (2.13) (55 from 29) -

Interesting reading.

Last two seasons, we have had a fantastic away record and not so good at home. Seems to have swung the other way now. We cannot seem to get all the elements right at the same time, which is why we are mostly chasing the leading pack every season. Those stats for Cheltenham are frighteningly good and the reason they will win the league.

Quoted from ginnywings

Last two seasons, we have had a fantastic away record and not so good at home. Seems to have swung the other way now. We cannot seem to get all the elements right at the same time, which is why we are mostly chasing the leading pack every season. Those stats for Cheltenham are frighteningly good and the reason they will win the league.

Agree totally

IF they can maintain more than 2 points per game from now on until Easter time then they may well have the title in their hands with a couple of weeks to spare

Then it will be the annual dog fight for the promotion play off place. Going to be a nervy Spring again for us I fear....

All our form has mostly come from the middle part of the season. We had an indifferent start.

Chances are that the luck could run out with late goals and so such for one of the top two, hopefully both. For certain one of them will have a dip in form and the gap can be bridged.
If course this depends on our own form, the next 3 games are really make or brake for all of the teams in the top 5.

I personally think we will finish 4th but think it will be harder than last year in the play offs trannys and one of top two will be no push over. Not sure who the other spot will go to though.

We have a great squad but PH does not know how to make game changing tactics during games and that could cost us dearly again. Would make a bloody top scout tho.

Tranmere dark horses , FGR  , ourselves  , then  take your pick from the other 6 .  Play off will be pot luck again .

Funnily enough VoR I've just been looking at stats and noticed that despite playing more games overall, you have played one fewer away game, making your points tally even better.

Home attendances by the way are 2700 for Chelts and 4605 for Grimsby. That difference'd probably eat away most if not all of the parachute money.

Quoted from KingstonMariner

Funnily enough VoR I've just been looking at stats and noticed that despite playing more games overall, you have played one fewer away game, making your points tally even better.

Home attendances by the way are 2700 for Chelts and 4605 for Grimsby. That difference'd probably eat away most if not all of the parachute money.

Agreed. That's got to be worth at least £20K extra per home game, approx £460K over the season extra.

Financially it looks like were on a pretty level budget.

We received around 100K for a 16 year old from Derby which even equates to your Operation Promotion fund raising.

Quoted from DocTower

Tranmere dark horses , FGR  , ourselves  , then  take your pick from the other 6 .  Play off will be pot luck again .

Cheltenham top spot, Play offs Us, VGR, Tranmere, Eastleigh. If we keep a settled side and have decent run to the play off's then we have as good a chance than anybody...............Still a lottery though. Finishing 3rd and playing your first game away makes a difference based upon previous experience.

Guess we'll have a better idea after the away games at VGR, Cheltenham and Tranmere as if we can get results there we can get them anywhere.

Quoted from ginnywings

Last two seasons, we have had a fantastic away record and not so good at home. Seems to have swung the other way now. We cannot seem to get all the elements right at the same time, which is why we are mostly chasing the leading pack every season. Those stats for Cheltenham are frighteningly good and the reason they will win the league.

It's not bad for a team that started the season with a full squad of new players.

What will they do after they've had time to gel?

Quoted from arryarryarry

It's not bad for a team that started the season with a full squad of new players.

What will they do after they've had time to gel?

That's the outstanding thing for me. This squad met up for the first time at training in July!

Quoted from voiceofreason

Agreed. That's got to be worth at least £20K extra per home game, approx £460K over the season extra.

Financially it looks like were on a pretty level budget.

We received around 100K for a 16 year old from Derby which even equates to your Operation Promotion fund raising.

We've also received well over £100,000 in cup money. Seems our budgets could be pretty even but for me, you just have a manager with more nous who has done it all before. He showed at BP that he is very astute. We were the better side for 30 mins until he changed it around a bit.

Quoted from HertsGTFC

Guess we'll have a better idea after the away games at VGR, Cheltenham and Tranmere as if we can get results there we can get them anywhere.

VoR's stats show that our home record this year is better than our away record and as we only took 2 points from the three home games against those three teams that would suggest we are unlikely to do any better in the away games..........unfortunately.

Quoted from Barrattstander

VoR's stats show that our home record this year is better than our away record and as we only took 2 points from the three home games against those three teams that would suggest we are unlikely to do any better in the away games..........unfortunately.

"glass half full"? Last year we had poor results at home to some teams but did well against them away Torquay, Wrexham, Macclesfield, Gateshead and Kiddy stand out so you never now. Also away last year we beat the eventual champions and drew with the runners up.

All I am saying is on any given day you never know.

I know it's been spoken about before, but gloucester's match was postponed yesterday. The weathers been horrid down here this week and doesn't look like easing up at all.

I presume Cheltenham are still training at hartpury/Cirencester ?

I think there is a risk our fixture backlog could see us drop out of the playoffs altogether.

Quoted from ginnywings

Last two seasons, we have had a fantastic away record and not so good at home. Seems to have swung the other way now. We cannot seem to get all the elements right at the same time, which is why we are mostly chasing the leading pack every season. Those stats for Cheltenham are frighteningly good and the reason they will win the league.

Frustrates me immensely where I see Cheltenham are and where we are because I feel that should be us.Bigger fan base and traditionally a bigger club.

Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY

I know it's been spoken about before, but gloucester's match was postponed yesterday. The weathers been horrid down here this week and doesn't look like easing up at all.

I presume Cheltenham are still training at hartpury/Cirencester ?

Still raining here, it's been 2 days pretty much constant and more predicted for Thursday night/Friday morning so Saturdays game has to be in doubt.

Some areas of the pitch were under water yesterday.

As for training, there still based at the Seasons Facility in Swindon Village.

Over the last 3 and half seasons our away record has been consistently excellent.  From 2012-13 onwards only Luton and Kidderminster have conceded fewer goals over any season.  In both cases by one goal each.

Our total away wins has also been excellent for the last 4 seasons.

As ever, it is our home form that has let us down.  Particularly, against the teams in the lower half of the league.  This season we have improved our home record. We have scored a lot of home goals, ironically mainly against the smaller teams.  

For all our record goals scored this season,  it is the missed chances at the AWAY games, such as Kidderminster, that have cost us dearly.  This season we have not scored enough goals away from home to secure more sorely needed points.    

Quoted from Rick12

Frustrates me immensely where I see Cheltenham are and where we are because I feel that should be us.Bigger fan base and traditionally a bigger club.

Sad to say that the fan base we have counts for very little when it comes to league positions

I remember when Cheltenham first got themselves promoted in to the league and they saw off a challenge from Rushden, close to where I was living at the time

Rushden followed them in to the league the season after I think it was but if I hadn't lived in the area, doubt I'd have taken note of either club.

"Who were they anyway" sort of complacency was how it was and both new entrants in to the ranks of the 92 seemed to be of no consequence....maybe that was pride before our fall?

We just have to have the good grace to say Cheltenham now deserve to be where they are as much as we do

Do I like it that they're looking likely to go back in the league again, maybe at our expense?

Not in the slightest but it's down to our club to right any wrongs we might think we are suffering; whether we have better support or a more distinguished history is not going to get us back up there. Results out on the park will

UTM GTID

Quoted from TownSNAFU5

Over the last 3 and half seasons our away record has been consistently excellent.  From 2012-13 onwards only Luton and Kidderminster have conceded fewer goals over any season.  In both cases by one goal each.

Our total away wins has also been excellent for the last 4 seasons.

As ever, it is our home form that has let us down.  Particularly, against the teams in the lower half of the league.  This season we have improved our home record. We have scored a lot of home goals, ironically mainly against the smaller teams.  

For all our record goals scored this season,  it is the missed chances at the AWAY games, such as Kidderminster, that have cost us dearly.  This season we have not scored enough goals away from home to secure more sorely needed points.    

We do score more goals this season than last, especially at home but last seasons team were better equipped for away games; something that cost us home points. This goes back to my belief that Hurst is not capable of getting all the elements needed for automatic promotion right at the same time. He cures one area at the expense of another. The better managers get it right more often than wrong and can change and adapt, whereas i feel Hurst is a little entrenched and tends to leave things too long before he changes them, which always has us playing catch up. I think a hard working target man type like LJL would greatly benefit us away from home and for changing things in home games if we need to throw the kitchen sink at it, yet two thirds of the way through the season, we still don't have one. The loss of LJL has coincided with a downturn in away points but an upturn in home points. He was definitely more effective in away games and was appreciated more by the fans who travel.