Team news live from East Midlands Airport using their free Wifi. Tomlinson and Omar lead the line tonight. No other changes from Friday.

seems to be about right  for tonights game

Bench JPP, Podge, Marshall, Pearson and robinson

Mackreth in for Arnold is a change too.

Quoted from LH

Mackreth in for Arnold is a change too.

Sorry, missed that. Arnold dropped for his error on Friday or injured?

Referee is Robert Jones, he supervised 4 games so far this season with 13 yellow cards and no reds so far

Wrexham

01 Belford
03 Newton
04 Smith
15 Evans
06 Fyfield
05 Hudson
16 York
08 Vose
09 Gray
10 Jennings
11 Moke

Substitutes

07 Fowler
12 Carrington
14 Jackson
17 Smith
22 Royle

Grimsby Town

01 McKeown
23 East
22 Nsiala
08 Disley
06 Gowling
03 Robertson
07 Mackreth
11 Monkhouse
16 Clay
27 Tomlinson
09 Bogle

Substitutes

05 Pearson
10 Amond
14 Marshall
18 Pittman
25 Robinson
Ref: Robert Jones

Tinkerman strikes again. Pittman scores and gets dropped. Out of form loan striker starts, with Amond who's had a great start to the season on the bench. Very poor team selection for me, but let's hope i'm made to look stupid come 9:45pm.

The less said about our best defender being stuck on the bench as we struggle to keep clean sheets, the better.

Quoted from Chrisblor

Tinkerman strikes again. Pittman scores and gets dropped. Out of form loan striker starts, with Amond who's had a great start to the season on the bench. Very poor team selection for me, but let's hope i'm made to look stupid come 9:45pm.

The less said about our best defender being stuck on the bench as we struggle to keep clean sheets, the better.

Agree. I'll give hurst the benefit of the doubt and presume that Amond isn't perhaps ready to be started again following his injury. Surprised to see Monkhouse start but he is a bit of a Manager's favourite. John Tondeur says that Arnold is injured. Mind you, he just enuinely said to BigChris "Would a draw be a fair result at this stage?", and the game hasn't even kicked off yet!!

Hmm! Hope the changes work.

Mackreth is better tracking back, so i can understand that one. Have to wait and see how the others pan out.

Quoted from Chrisblor

Tinkerman strikes again. Pittman scores and gets dropped. Out of form loan striker starts, with Amond who's had a great start to the season on the bench. Very poor team selection for me, but let's hope i'm made to look stupid come 9:45pm.

The less said about our best defender being stuck on the bench as we struggle to keep clean sheets, the better.

Surely the whole point of having such a good squad is that you can make these sort of changes to the team? Pitman did nothing except knock in a rebound, the loan striker looked pretty good to me in his cameo on Friday, and Amond has had a knock.

He doesn't put a team out to lose, does he? He must feel this is the best team on the night, but as you say we will see at 9.45. Of course, Wrexham might be trying to win too.

Don't mind the changes particularly though I guess it depends if Arnold is injured. Personally would have preferred Mackreth and Monkhouse for this one. If Amond is only half fit then better to have him on the bench and despite his goal I thought JPP was very poor the other night.

Who was that talking to Tondeur on RH a minute ago?

JPP.

It doesn't matter what Hurst does or does not do he will always be wrong with some on here. He sees  the players in practice and off the pitch a lot more than any of us based on that expert knowledge and the opposing side he chooses his side. If we lose no doubt loads of snippers will have him well in their sights. UTM.

Quoted from bluebottle

JPP.

Thanks.

Another question. My bro just texed me and said he can't get RH on his dab radio. Anyone know if it's on dab?

Kick off's a bit late...Aldershot's scored at Tranny already ::)

flipping come on town

Quoted from RoboCod

Kick off's a bit late...Aldershot's scored at Tranny already ::)

Sam Hatton.

Quoted from ginnywings

Thanks.

Another question. My bro just texed me and said he can't get RH on his dab radio. Anyone know if it's on dab?

Hull city on dab

Torquay 1-0 down to Boredom Wood! Ouch...

Quoted from Mrs Doyle

It doesn't matter what Hurst does or does not do he will always be wrong with some on here. He sees  the players in practice and off the pitch a lot more than any of us based on that expert knowledge and the opposing side he chooses his side. If we lose no doubt loads of snippers will have him well in their sights. UTM.

Oh give it a rest - people are just expressing their opinion on the team selection. They're allowed to do that. It's the same for all football managers and their selections.

Obviously Hurst has his squad and he knows what he wants and what condition individuals are in. Everyone else is just guessing.

town are on fm tonight

Arnold did not look right second half on Friday and asked to be substituted.  JPP didn't look fully match fit so maybe Paul Hurst didn't want him playing 2 games in a week.  Have to trust his judgement as he works with the players day in day out.

Quoted from ackomariner

Hull city on dab

Cheers Acko, my brother is fuming. He only has a radio, no internet.

Quoted from Mrs Doyle

It doesn't matter what Hurst does or does not do he will always be wrong with some on here. He sees  the players in practice and off the pitch a lot more than any of us based on that expert knowledge and the opposing side he chooses his side. If we lose no doubt loads of snippers will have him well in their sights. UTM.

Snippers? Are you on about Arnold or having a go at the snipers?

Quoted from denni266

town are on fm tonight

Cheers denni

Burnsy tries to turn a quick Hull update into a full 1st half commentary ??)

Lincoln 1 Atrincham 1

Quoted from ginnywings

Cheers Acko, my brother is fuming. He only has a radio, no internet.

Where's FFS when you need him  ;D

Sounds like we're getting owned here.  Hopefully we can get it down and start playing a bit soon.

Wrexham made decent start, we need to get in to it a bit more.

Im here we are playing excrement. Monkhouse to slow Diser and Clay missing Mackreth trying. Bogle being bullied by Fyfield Tomlinson started bright. Refs a tad dodgy. Defence looks  clueless.

Sound under the cosh! Havent heard our CM or Front 2 mentioned at all

Knew it'd be tough and commentators keep saying we struggling with their formation which is a worry. Gowling and Toto couple of casual moments, can't help but think Pearson wouldn't mess about.

Anyway, come on boys!

Backs to the wall. With our defence as it has been, not holding out much hope for a clean sheet on this one!

We'll probably go and sneak a 1-0.

Is paul capable of actually changing his tactics to get us in the game.

Getting overrun in midfield and no doubt their 4 3 3 is getting the better.

Disappointing but no real surprise to hear we are being outplayed, especially in centre midfield.

flipping robertson pissing about with it.

Never seen the fuss about him.

What a excrement season. Hardly any of the teams are just lying down and taking it like they should.  ::)

Monkhouse receiving some criticism from Tondeur and BC.

Quoted from LH

What a excrement season. Hardly any of the teams are just lying down and taking it like they should.  ::)

;D ;D ;D ;D

Sounds like monkhouse is completely not in the game , how long do we leave him being a passenger ?

It might seem im being negative tonight but im not its just this first 45 mins we have done nowt apart from paul getting neck ache from loooking at our box all half.

think their's a red coming  :o

Update as this is more fun then watching the match.

Ref upgraded from dodgy to imcompetant tosser.
Tomlinson and Bogle dont know how to play with each  other.
Monkhouse excrement and slow
Bogle making it hard for ourselves
2nd shot of the match after 30 minutes

Well you'd think we were losing with the negative posts on here!! They havent made macca make a save yet guys! Just get to HT 0-0 and regroup.

Sounded close for town.  

Hagrid its not like that at all its just if you are listening to the game (i know its not a qualification some like to qualify a judgement) we are being overrun all over.

I agree macca not really had alot to do but wouldnt it be nice for once if we stamped our authority for once ?

Getting into the game now need to make it count.  

I do see your point Jonny, we do sound quite awful! But i cant slate the team when we arent losing (yet)

cheltenham  top at the mo, come on town

FGR losing at home.

Well I was fully expecting a goal fest tonight. Maybe this is the first clean sheet

Quoted from buckstown

Well I was fully expecting a goal fest tonight. Maybe this is the first clean sheet

We're gona win 2-1

Quoted from Hagrid

Well you'd think we were losing with the negative posts on here!! They havent made macca make a save yet guys! Just get to HT 0-0 and regroup.

Anything negative, just delete it 😉

Tbh im more frustrated at the manager than the players so far.

They are playing a 4 3 3 which although its 0-0 they have been pretty much all over us , why cant we match it up and try to get the extra centre mid in there too ?

I just feel its these little decisions which whilst no guarantee it will work would certainly show he recognises we are struggling with there formation.

A point away at wrexham is usually a decent result but im sorry we need 3 tonight no ifs or buts.

Half time report.

excrement excrement excrement excrement and more excrement.

Not in the game till last 5 minutes. 4 shots all at the end of the half 2 on target neither was going in.

Monkhouse hasnt even got his magic touch tonight to save the fact ge cant move. Only redeem feature one nice pass Bogle cocked up and he is tracking back to defend.

Diser and clay are then when we attack but missing when we defend. Thats about it they are being bypassed mainly as we are hoofing it all the time for some unknown reason.

MacKreth and East pairing up well, defending from both sub par at times but going forward not bad, nice cross from MacKreth to set up one of our best chances.

Robertson having a poor game by his standards. Gowling and Toto are under alot of pressure.

As I've said previously Bogle is making it hard for himself and doesnt know how to partner up with Tomlinson.

One final thing, are we playing 442 or 451 I cant tell as neither Tomlinson or Monkhouse are staying in position

enjoying my bovrill . if not the game

Quoted from jonnyboy82

Tbh im more frustrated at the manager than the players so far.

They are playing a 4 3 3 which although its 0-0 they have been pretty much all over us , why cant we match it up and try to get the extra centre mid in there too ?

I just feel its these little decisions which whilst no guarantee it will work would certainly show he recognises we are struggling with there formation.

A point away at wrexham is usually a decent result but im sorry we need 3 tonight no ifs or buts.

Agree with that we need to show them we mean buisness

Quoted from Hagrid

Well you'd think we were losing with the negative posts on here!! They havent made macca make a save yet guys! Just get to HT 0-0 and regroup.

FFS, what negative posts?! People are just reacting to what they are seeing and hearing. Admittedly, sonofmadelymariner sounds the most pi$$ed off, but then he's there! Unless the commentary is completely wrong, it sounds like we've really hardly had a kick in that half, and have been generally second best in most if not all respects. What do you want people to do, other than react to that?! of course there'll be frustration and disappointment, as I'm sure there will be in the dressing room! The people moaning about so called 'negative' posts are more irritating than the moaners!

When the Monkhouse out wide thing doesn't work it really doesn't work. Surely it's worth getting Marshall on and running at this team down the sides.

Best bit of the game is the toti they keep bringing out at half time, she must be an opera singer  ;)

In all honesty we are aweful not seen us play this badly in a long time.

Same old shite ! Fancy the strikers not having a good understanding of each other after having only just met last week

Well madelymariner you are there so it pretty much goes along with the commentary.

All wrecsam.

So as it stands now we're only 9 points off the top? Hmm, at the current rate, we'll be top in 10 matches.. :)

Quoted from RoboCod

When the Monkhouse out wide thing doesn't work it really doesn't work. Surely it's worth getting Marshall on and running at this team down the sides.

Well he won't change it at half time, that's for sure. Will be at least 60 mins no matter how the game is panning out.

90+3

Quoted from RoboCod

When the Monkhouse out wide thing doesn't work it really doesn't work. Surely it's worth getting Marshall on and running at this team down the sides.

indeed, a big centre back at right back, let marshall give him a run

Sounds like its us actually presenting the opportunities again, need to cut out these mistakes!

someone needs nobble jennings

Second best in a fifth tier game, last comment by Tondeur that we've started slowly again - any wonder we're negative!

So i get a red for saying he won't change it no matter what before 60/70 mins, despite him never once in 4 years making a half time change. Don't you find it strange that he has never made a half time substitution, ever? Must be the only manager in the country who does that.

Think we should have changed it a bit at half time, we will end up with ten men if we are not careful

Bring Pearson on for gowling and amond for Tomlinson

Might he have judged that we came more into it for the last ten minutes of the first half? In that case it wouldn't really make sense to change it.

Typical Gary Mills team- nasty players, trying to get opposition in the referees book!

Agree with that plus Marshall for Monkhouse

Mistake after mistake in defence.

All season , what the intercourse is going on its so not like us.

Absolutely nothing happening at the KerCer but we have to hear Burns say so. Thanks RH.

Best defender on the bench and we under all sorts of pressure

Quoted from jonnyboy82

Mistake after mistake in defence.

All season , what the intercourse is going on its so not like us.

It's all bad luck

Put pittman/ amond on. Bit of fight up front

We're now the only goalless game in the Conference tonight. If only we could impose ourselves and actually turn the game in our favour.

Why the hell do we panick when we're in the final third ffc

Any chance at all of a change to actually get us in the game? I know we're not losing but we just haven't done anything at all and are thoroughly second best in every respect by the sounds of it. We could change a player or two or look at the system..? Or, we could just plod on hoping for the best until we concede, and then find a load of excuses. Centre midfield sounds particularly poor.

Phew.  Well done macca, glad to see him back to his best

Well saved macca.

That a warning... :-/

Macca's back

in agony here, great save jimmy mac

Thank god for macca

We survive a great-save-but-goes-in-anyway incident through an offside flag AND we won the toss! Lady Luck positively BEAMING down on us tonight. :X

The way were playing this season, a point would be magnificent.
In fact it will be a miracle, an early xmas present.

Have we even started this half bloody hell town wake up, we will go 1-0 down then finally wake up always do the same .

Thank fook for that, great to see/hear Macca getting back to his best, I just wish we could get a foothold in the game.  Try not to judge too much on games I am not there but sounds like we need something!

chaos paul hurst ever never ever had a plan b. 442 and thats him.

Getting battered at the min.

Have faith boys  8)

We'll be hearing about this heroic point for months after this  :-/ Hurst out !

Toto error - again!

You'll have to pass better than that to the OPPOSITION TOTO, if you WANT THEM TO SCORE!!!


FFS.

Thats it . What the intercourse are they doing.

Toto !!

Sort it paul and your money intercourse sake.

Im glad their strikers are incompetant.

It was offside but it was close when the shot came in.

Why for the love of God hasnt Hurst done something

Hanging on with no finger nails left. We need to change

Why not make a change FFS

Quoted from jonnyboy82

chaos paul hurst ever never ever had a plan b. 442 and thats him.

Getting battered at the min.

And we all criticised him when he played 4-3-3.

Have to be honest, im fuming at PH right now, we havent touched the ball in the second half except to give it to then and he hasnt changed it!!

Quoted from sonofmadeleymariner

Im glad their strikers are incompetant.

It was offside but it was close when the shot came in.

Why for the love of God hasnt Hurst done something

Because we're not losing yet.  

ch ch ch changes

Jesus christ , we sound all over the place.

Just not good enough.

Quoted from Mariner_09

And we all criticised him when he played 4-3-3.

Really 4-5-1 though wasn't it  ;)

Sounds like Bogle needs to come off if anyone.

Quoted from KingstonMariner

Sounds like Bogle needs to come off if anyone.

This

Plan C....hope that Wrexham are terrible finishers. Affirmative. The 0-0 is on!

Quoted from KingstonMariner

Sounds like Bogle needs to come off if anyone.

JT just said we need a Parslow to tighten it up.

I think it requires a Lenny style striker to hold it up once we get it away.

Mariner 09 you have to adapt at being a football manager and earn your money , not stand with your arms folded watching the clock and hoping they dont score.

we are tripe , just sat here waiting for the inevitable. Completely disappointed with this

Problem is the defence will crack with the weight of pressure because we can`t hold it up front

Sounds like a typical smash and grab with been used to at home.  

Double change. At last.

Marshall and JPP. Don't let us down ::)

Yes PH.... 3 points coming up

We are actually getting ready to make a change apparently!

FGR losing 2-1. Extown man harry pell

Its alright shaking your head bogle but thats the most you done all game.

This is poor we're the hell is our midfield ffs

Sums it up when our best player is McKeown.

Bogle will be straight on Twitter stating we're gona win on sat.

Quoted from jonnyboy82

Mariner 09 you have to adapt at being a football manager and earn your money , not stand with your arms folded watching the clock and hoping they dont score.

This.

Offside  ??)

Dont like hearing that from Bogle. intercourse off linesman

FGR just equalised again 2-2

That was more like it.

Oh ffs clay

Eastleigh 2-4 Dover.  :-/

Wheels coming off for Eastleigh and FGR it seems.

Quoted from Hagrid

Dont like hearing that from Bogle. intercourse off linesman

He'll be dropped next game for disagreeing with ph, he's got little man syndrome  :K)

Dover 5 !!

Thing is why wait til nearly 80 mins to make a change.

Anyone can see or hear we were getting battered.

Quoted from jonnyboy82

Thing is why wait til nearly 80 mins to make a change.

Anyone can see or hear we were getting battered.

See if JT asks him the question, but I doubt it very much

70 minutes or thereabouts seems to be the only time Hurst likes to make a change! :)

Have faith,  come on town, come on town

Quoted from chicaneuk

70 minutes or thereabouts seems to be the only time Hurst likes to make a change! :)

and always to late he is just not good enough

Doubt it acko.

Would be a good question.

JT says happy with a point.

Yes john if your aim is midtable.

Tbh Johnny, we have sounded woeful tonight, and very grateful we've taken a point- even if its not what we all wanted

451 would work if we ever pressured them. We have been aweful. Hopefully Monkhouse will be dropped and Marshall gets a chance. Hes looked good since coming on.

Everyone has forgotten the important thing tonight- CLEEEEAAAAANNNN SHHHHHEEEEEEEET!!!!!

Quoted from jonnyboy82

JT says happy with a point.

Yes john if your aim is midtable.

Don't think we are happy with a point, more that we have played so poorly we are getting away with a point.  That is a dissapointment in itself and not good enough.  Could of made a statement today but haven't.  Just hope we do get the point now.

Clean sheet, unbeaten in five.

A CLEAN SHEET!!!!

Not great by a long way but...Macca sounded superb and it's the first clean sheet. Can we get some much needed belief from that?
Would have been a good result had it followed a couple of wins...

happy with a point and a clean sheet

Hurst will have a roger on about the clean sheet no doubt.

One of the toughest games of the season survived despite a disappointing performance.

Of course in isolation this is a great point. But......

A point was a lot more than we could have ended up with.  Stopped them winning 6 at home.  We are 5 unbeaten and did not concede.  A base to build on - with a few changes.  

Im happy with that.....
We play excrement and still get a point away from home against  a good team
3 points on Saturday....

Good draw but that's now 6 draws out of 12. Too many, just like last year and the year before but have to be content with a clean sheet and a point despite being outplayed for most of the game. Subs too lte yet again.

Sounded awful......usual case when playing a Mill's in having limited possession and only sounded improved when we matched up the midfield. A good point on paper but the teams we want to catch are dropping points and draws are of limited use to us.

Quoted from TownSNAFU5

A point was a lot more than we could have ended up with.  Stopped them winning 6 at home.  We are 5 unbeaten and did not concede.  A base to build on - with a few changes.  

Yeah. A whole point more.

Meanwhile another game gone. Over 25% of season gone.

Good point.

Also good to see the FGR bubble has burst. 8 points dropped in three games.

On the other hand we are not playing like title contenders. Still looking like another play off season at best.

Frustrating but well played town, we are hard to Beat which will stand us in good steed. 3 points on Saturday and that would be 12 points in 6 games .

Positives.... We've kept a clean sheet.

Fgr haven't gained anymore points on us.

Unbeaten in 5.

Roll on Saturday.

Even though a points a decent one away at a good Wrexham side I just feel totally underwhelmed this season. Lost all the excitement and optimism I had over the summer. Find myself back to square one..

Quoted from RonMariner

Good point.

Also good to see the FGR bubble has burst. 8 points dropped in three games.

On the other hand we are not playing like title contenders. Still looking like another play off season at best.

My fear as well Ron.

Yep 4 wins in 12 shows a statement of intent.

A draw away at wrexham is usually a good result if you win your home games and are doing well.

The performance was dissapointing tonight and i make no apologies in saying its just not good enough.

Quoted from zorro_is_a_Mariner

Frustrating but well played town, we are hard to Beat which will stand us in good steed. 3 points on Saturday and that would be 12 points in 6 games .

Positives.... We've kept a clean sheet.

Fgr haven't gained anymore points on us.

Unbeaten in 5.

Roll on Saturday.

Positives I agree but feel your post is clutching at straws

Need a win on Saturday.

Monk house again the worst player in a Grimsby shirt , why ?

Quoted from Mariner_09

Need a win on Saturday.

Too right we do! It's only Southport we usually beat them....oh wait a minute!  :o

Dropped to 9th. Overtaken by Tranmere and the mighty Bromley. Steadfastly accruing 1.5 points per game.  :(

Quoted from Fan

Monk house again the worst player in a Grimsby shirt , why ?

The WUM is back.

Quoted from Fan

Monk house again the worst player in a Grimsby shirt , why ?

is it because as a monk he needs something like friar tuck

Want to be pleased with a point but as Ginny says, to many draws already .

It sounded an awful display from town but better after the sub's came on

Unlucky with the goal scored tonight, but lucky that Macca played well and Wrexham were poor finishers.

I`m not at all confident of promotion whichever route

Quoted from ackomariner

Want to be pleased with a point but as Ginny says, to many draws already .

It sounded an awful display from town but better after the sub's came on

But why did it take so long to make the changes?

Quoted from heppy88

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But why did it take so long to make the changes?

Only one man can answer that question heppy

Perhaps if the subs had been made earlier we might have actually made a chance and maybe even scored a goal! (icon_eek)

This is a good point by itself, especially considering how we played, its the other results that are putting more pressure on us to win games like this.

Definitely need a win at Southport on Saturday though.

Quoted from AndyGTFC

This is a good point by itself, especially considering how we played, its the other results that are putting more pressure on us to win games like this.

Definitely need a win at Southport on Saturday though.

Been saying that for 5 years. About time we turned them over.

Glad to see a clean sheet - at long last! A good point but, judging by the comments on here, a crappy performance.

One thing which is a bit confusing is that people are saying McKeown had a good game for us, but the BBC web site doesn't think Wrexham had an effort on target! Have they buggered up the match stats as usual?

Quoted from ginnywings

Been saying that for 5 years. About time we turned them over.

Surely wasn't that long ago when Liam Hearn scored that late winner on the Friday evening.

Should start Marshall and Podge on Saturday. Podge compliments Bogle better than any of the others. Bogle has immense talent and could play as high as the Premier league. He's quick and strong but his decision making is often very poor, his touch is often woeful and even though he's scored 7 goals his finishing has to be more lethal, and he's got to get his head right.

Quoted from Les Brechin

Surely wasn't that long ago when Liam Hearn scored that late winner on the Friday evening.

:B

An excellent away point and great to get a clean sheet

We are not top scorers now,

Bromley with 10 goals in last 2 games are ahead of us now.

Quoted from Maringer

One thing which is a bit confusing is that people are saying McKeown had a good game for us, but the BBC web site doesn't think Wrexham had an effort on target! Have they buggered up the match stats as usual?

Macca had a good game clearing up through balls made a world class save for their free kick, threw himself in to get hold of the ball

The positives were Macca is back and better than ever :P and we kept a clean sheet.

HOWEVER we played awfully and Monkhouse needs to be dropped to rest, when he's fit he is fantastic, also amond needs to be with Bogle...


UTM

Quoted from ackomariner

Only one man can answer that question heppy

And he did in his interview. He did not think the subs were made too late.