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After sending a bottle of champers from Ady Pennock to his Chelts counter part when it was impossible for Village green rovers to catch them nice gesture.

Hurst wants to thank is lucky stars Fenty as a great deal more patience than that bloke or is it that he as more ambition???

and on that bombshell..................................................................................................................... :) :) ;D ;D

Could well be worth playing them then...

He was blasting the team only the other day, maybe that has something to do with it.

It's like Ray Wilkins and Fulham all over again.

It could also give them the kick up the rear that we dont want :(

I wonder if they only recruit vegans?

Will there be a documentary, "Ady Pennock - the impossible job"? Seems an odd time to sack him and as someone mentioned above it's like Wilkins at Fulham in 98. That said, with the amount they've spent they probably expected automatic promotion. Wonder who they'll get and how long they'll last. I think Keegan is available.

To be fair to some of the FGR players they are probably so demoralised they have got one eye on that end season hippie /yoga/vegan retreat somewhere in Tuscany and will let town walk all over them ;)

Anybody happily see us finish 5th to give these lot a good go in the semis rather than the final?

if we do have to play them can we get pennock in as an advisor?

Nearly 2.5 years in charge, 2nd best away form in the league, not won in the last 7 games since we beat them.

I would of sacked him as well.

There's a fair bit of selection out there at the minute, that's all I'll say.
Money talks :-/

Whatever's left of the Operation Promotion money should be stuffed into the nearest brown envelope getyourfactsfight can get his hands on, and offered to Pennock for some insider information and "consultancy"

If Dale Vince wants to play the Game of Thrones, he'll win or die.

Quoted from psgmariner

Will be interesting to see how sacking a manager just before the playoffs pans out for them. Food for thought....

Very....ammo for some on here either way.. ;D

Sometimes I wonder if our Directors grew a pair would they have sacked Hurst?
Probably not got the bottle.
How qualifing for the play-offs 4 seasons running constitutes a good job done if beyond belief.

IT IS FAILURE WHICHEVER WAY YOU LOOK AT IT.

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It might be a genius move. The team were faltering. Often a new manager gets an immediate short-term reaction, which is what they need just for the three play off games. Given their money, they could also afford to bring in a big name, just on a temporary basis.

Hope I'm wrong!

Quoted from Town Monkey

Will there be a documentary, "Ady Pennock - the impossible job"? Seems an odd time to sack him and as someone mentioned above it's like Wilkins at Fulham in 98. That said, with the amount they've spent they probably expected automatic promotion. Wonder who they'll get and how long they'll last. I think Keegan is available.

Hmmm ! " Keegan the Vegan " , it's got a bit of a ring to it .. ;)

Quoted from Mariner Ronnie

He was blasting the team only the other day, maybe that has something to do with it.

He also blamed his own club for being unprofessional and labelled the New Lawn pitch as a disgrace. FGR have been without a groundsman for over a month - with Pennock himself having to help maintain the pitch.
Probably an excuse for poor recent performances I know.

http://forum.fgrfc.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=63092

Reading that it would appear that the majority are in favour of him going.

Would you Adam & Eve it, finishing second and the fans wanting him gone.

Only happens at Grimsby ;)

Given their track record of managerial appointments I'd be surprised if they get in anyone decent for three games. Touch wood.

Quoted from Belfast Town

It might be a genius move. The team were faltering. Often a new manager gets an immediate short-term reaction, which is what they need just for the three play off games. Given their money, they could also afford to bring in big name, just on on a temporary basis.

Hope I'm wrong!

If only that had happened with Woods :(

Quoted from Tradjazz

Sometimes I wonder if our Directors grew a pair would they have sacked Hurst?
Probably not got the bottle.
How qualifing for the play-offs 4 seasons running constitutes a good job done if beyond belief.

IT IS FAILURE WHICHEVER WAY YOU LOOK AT IT.

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begining to sound like the Arsenal

Let's see how this one goes first Tradjazz, feel free to chuck mud all Summer long if it all goes to pot.

But right now let's pull together for the football, no?

Will be interesting to see if it galvanises them as a similar strategy was mooted on here.

Hopefully not enough for them to skidabble us thats all I'm really bothered about!

When I was a low point (weren't we all !) following the defeat against Braintree I actually though we should do exactly this, fire Hurst and get someone in to try and give us a boost in the play offs.

However, my reaction to this news is that it looks like sheer desperation at FGR. They must be in a real mess, and the loss of form we have seen recently is not some fluke but an indication that there are very serious morale issues.

Sometimes a new manager has a 'honeymoon' period where things turn round, but hard to see it happening in this case, a week before the playoffs.

This is a real gamble. It might demotivate the players further. I think we will be playing them in the semi, so I do think this is more likely to good news for us.

I won't be gloating about this.

Unless we go up :)

New manager effect. Think Chester. ??)

A new manager is a gamble but having said that just watching the same old surely needed addressing, these become a real threat now playing for the new guy

Could go either way.

Biggest issue is that even if the temp guy can motivate the players the fact is form cannot be turned on and off like a tap. They have been in free fall results wise, that is difficult to change.

It would have been better for other contenders if Pennock had remained IMO

Hmmmm.interesting.with their money they could easily go out and just poach the most consistently successful in non league football at the moment...................
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Quoted from forza ivano

Hmmmm.interesting.with their money they could easily go out and just poach the most consistently successful in non league football at the moment...................
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I'd drive him to and from training everyday, no worries.

I think it's a very sensible move by FGR, and yes I am one of those who has advocated Grimsby Town doing the same thing, as I did in the 2009-10 season.
FGR have been looking a busted flush. This might well give them a renewed vigour to win the play-offs.

In the very short-term and for purely selfish reasons this might be good news. It will probably improve FGR's chances of getting at least a draw at Dover, thus a point at Tranmere and third place is secure for Grimsby Town. I hope you go on and win it then there's no doubt. Unfortunately I've no confidence Hurst will even deliver so much as a draw and I can see Braintree pinching third place.

Wouldn't be surprised if he chucked a lot of money at it to get somebody in who might get them through the play-offs. Westley?

Quoted from Rodley Mariner

Wouldn't be surprised if he chucked a lot of money at it to get somebody in who might get them through the play-offs. Westley?

That would be very bad news for the other three clubs in the play-offs. Even someone fairly good could have the necessary effect over the next four matches, and Westley is a lot better than fairly good.

As long as we do the business on the day that's all, that matters , we know we can as do they . With the money they have a washing around they could get anyone to see them through .

I would hazard a guess that he had lost the dressing room. Recent bad form and various comments would suggest that. At the end of the day it is the players that call the tune wether we like it or not. Maybe the atmosphere around the training ground etc was bad. So you've got a workforce of which the majority dislike the boss. So much so it affects performance. Three big games coming up, sack the unpopular boss, happy workforce, improved performance.
The downside may be that any potential new manager would wonder what he had to do to be safe !!

I have been a critic of Hurst since the transfer window but if we followed F.G.,s " The Nutty Professor " in sacking the manager this late in the season we would need our heads examining. Their owner knows sweet Fck All about football-- it,s just his money that has done the talking. If we had got rid of Hurst earlier I would have agreed but for C,s sake we couldn,t possibly follow this idiot now we are in the playoffs. . Pennock has been moaning at his players, moaning about the pitch, maybe having a go at the wrong people too much. Could this be one of the reasons he has gone never mind the results. Hurst has never called the hierarchy maybe handbags with the fans and the odd player but on the whole he seems a bit of a "nice guy " Don,t lets compare Hurst with Pennock or FGR with GTFC, There is no comparison.

Compare their first ten games of the season with their last ten. They had already won the league seemingly, which goes to show that you never know what is going to happen over a season, unless you are a Town fan of course, as our seasons are like Groundhog day.

It certainly is an incredible decision, as too is the timing, and I can't get my head around whether it is a truly inspired or absurdly inept one, and I suppose only their fortunes over the next couple of weeks will answer that one, but it's certainly a ruthless decision after all they are guaranteed to finish second and Pennock could argue that results since Cheltenham were crowned champions were in the scheme of things quite irrelevant really.

Trying to pre-guess the reasoning is a tough one, recent criticisms won't have helped his cause, nor too would his refusal to shoulder the blame for an awful run of results. In fact their might be a valuable lesson for Mr Hurst here as bad results or bad performances can't always be put down to the fault of others, or by apportioning responsibility sometimes you have to put your own hands up in the air and admit you got things wrongs, in all the interviews I saw Pennock give, not once did he come across as one who accepted blame for any of it.

Perhaps the FG board are hoping that his amazing dismissal and all things considered it is amazing, will lift all the supporters, a lot of whom don't exactly appear to be in mourning over his departure do they and of course the team who with their results and obviously as an outsider looking in don't appear to have given as much as perhaps they could have been?

Will 'new manager' syndrome prove the decision made an inspired one. Certainly their board will be praying it does, and on reflection, I rather come down on that side of the fence myself. Before this decision I actually wouldn't have minded finishing fifth and getting them in the play off's so abject had their form been, but now I am not too sure, given the choice it could be a really bad time to play them couldn't it.

Hell they couldn't have played any worse could they, but now with a new boss, they could quite conceivably, in the same way a team having their three best players coming back from long term injuries be completely galvanised by the move.

We'll soon find out. Still find it staggering though

Think hindsight will be key on how to judge this, they go up, genius and we should of done it, they don't the its panic decision and unless they storm the leagues next year will be a bad move.

I am going to call it as a bad decision now and hope I am right, but as mad as it seems right now I do think this is the type of decision that could go either way.

Here you go, here's why: http://www.gloucestercitizen.co.uk/Forest-Green-Rovers-OPINION-Ady-Pennock/story-29189337-detail/story.html

And Paul Hurst would never be like this??? "Yes, Pennock was blaming everyone and everything apart from himself, yet he did not seem to have the answers to turn their increasingly woeful form around."

Quoted from kingster72

Here you go, here's why: http://www.gloucestercitizen.co.uk/Forest-Green-Rovers-OPINION-Ady-Pennock/story-29189337-detail/story.html

And Paul Hurst would never be like this??? "Yes, Pennock was blaming everyone and everything apart from himself, yet he did not seem to have the answers to turn their increasingly woeful form around."

Hurst is certainly very relaxed at present, very open and honest with fans on Tuesday at POTY.

Think Hurst and Pennock are totally different characters

After having a spat with a fan during the Woking game he turned his fury on the pitch afterwards, saying that it was a "disgrace" and "unprofessional" to go so long without a groundsman, which would have no doubt irked the club's hierarchy, who are proud of having the world's first organic pitch.

I find it harder to take VGR seriously by the week...

Quoted from RoboCod

After having a spat with a fan during the Woking game he turned his fury on the pitch afterwards, saying that it was a "disgrace" and "unprofessional" to go so long without a groundsman, which would have no doubt irked the club's hierarchy, who are proud of having the world's first organic pitch.

I find it harder to take VGR seriously by the week...

TBF he had a point with that. No groundsman for over a month and the manager resorted to getting the roller out to flatten out the divots from the previous games

Quoted from RoboCod

After having a spat with a fan during the Woking game he turned his fury on the pitch afterwards, saying that it was a "disgrace" and "unprofessional" to go so long without a groundsman, which would have no doubt irked the club's hierarchy, who are proud of having the world's first organic pitch.

I find it harder to take VGR seriously by the week...

Clearly their fans had been spoilt. ;)

Quoted from Cloudy

TBF he had a point with that. No groundsman for over a month and the manager resorted to getting the roller out to flatten out the divots from the previous games

Just makes it all the harder to take them seriously. All that money thrown around at players signings, 2nd in the table but still no away support to speak of, no meat sold at the ground, no groundsman to do the grass, idiot stewards...they don't seem focussed on running a football club to the most basic standards never mind preparing for a historic entry to the League.

The woman next door asked me if FGR have an orgasmic pitch do all the players have to sh*g on it I told her of course. She,s moving down there on Sunday.

Quoted from kingster72

Here you go, here's why: http://www.gloucestercitizen.co.uk/Forest-Green-Rovers-OPINION-Ady-Pennock/story-29189337-detail/story.html

And Paul Hurst would never be like this??? "Yes, Pennock was blaming everyone and everything apart from himself, yet he did not seem to have the answers to turn their increasingly woeful form around."

I wonder how much advertising income the Gloucester Citizen get from EcoTricity or free editorial lunches with Dale? not saying this happens but who knows. :-/

Quoted from Madeleymariner

I wonder how much advertising income the Gloucester Citizen get from EcoTricity or free editorial lunches with Dale? not saying this happens but who knows. :-/

There are " perks " in all different corners of football-- bungs aplenty. I could tell you of 1 well known Town manager who received tax free incentives from a popular director a few years back.

Quoted from RoboCod

Just makes it all the harder to take them seriously. All that money thrown around at players signings, 2nd in the table but still no away support to speak of, no meat sold at the ground, no groundsman to do the grass, idiot stewards...they don't seem focussed on running a football club to the most basic standards never mind preparing for a historic entry to the League.

Absolutely. I agree.
I can't see them making it to the league this year. We'll never have a better chance in terms of the overall quality of the opposition in the play offs.

Quoted from golfer

There are " perks " in all different corners of football-- bungs aplenty. I could tell you of 1 well known Town manager who received tax free incentives from a popular director a few years back.

I should keep that to yourself mate.

Quoted from chaos33

We'll never have a better chance in terms of the overall quality of the opposition in the play offs.

But we have entered them looking and being in better form. Hopefully we can do what we capable of on the day(s) and go up best of a bad bunch.

When the chairman is putting the sort of money he has put in looks like he demands promotion at any cost.

Sounds a bit knee jerk to me but hey ho the next manager will have no pressure on him then lol.

This could be a interesting few weeks.

Could it not be the opposite could it be that they don't want to go up. It's all well and good swampy throwing cash around at this level but another step up means even more. Does he want that, let's face it, it is only him propping it up. At this level they do ok, if they go up they'd still get the same crowds, still poor away followings and players would more than likely only go because of decent wages.

Nothing really appealing to anyone about the club.

Whatever it is it's all very odd. We may have a pop at town and sometimes we question the operation of the club but when you look at some of these you have to realise it could be a lot worse.

Am I the only one hoping that Vince does a Noades and takes charge of the team himself? :)

You could be right Maringer. Not sure how they'll cope having to play with solar panels on their backs :P

I think out of all the Play off teams no one can deny we are the one most well set up to at least sustain a league team . Any of the other 3 could potentially have the lowest ever average attendance in the football league (100s rather than 1000s) .

Quoted from Golden fox

I think out of all the Play off teams no one can deny we are the one most well set up to at least sustain a league team . Any of the other 3 could potentially have the lowest ever average attendance in the football league (100s rather than 1000s) .

But the deciding or common denominator is MONEY . Maybe not so much Braintree but the other 2 have chairmen or others willing to pump silly money into the club to gain league status , but after that what happens . You are where you are on merit , if teams wish to import mercenaries and pay them the sort of numbers that have been floated around so be it . I would like think that honesty would win on the day, but watching the premiership as I sometimes do I don't think it does .

Your right that's the thing once they have 'league status ' though a lot of these benefactors either realise the finances / support arnt there or simply get bored so most of the teams just fade back to their natural level or slightly above EG Crawley Town and Newport County , Fleetwood seem to have a better model with a more Lasting infrastructure as Maybe FGR with there all things green ideas but the other two would surely just be like flogging a dead horse . Just a thaught by the way has anyone seen the efforts of Burton Albion , fantastic effort on limited resources up there not as high profile as Leicester City but a great achievement none the less . UTM Fox

Quoted from mariner91

Given their track record of managerial appointments I'd be surprised if they get in anyone decent for three games. Touch wood.

Correct -

FGR will wait until after the National League play-offs to appoint a new boss with head of youth development Scott Bartlett being given the task of taking the club into the Football League for next season.

Seems like a good move for Town's play-off hopes.

Unfortunately I expect FGR to win the play-offs. If Fenty had changed the habit of the last ten years and sacked Hurst a couple of games ago Grimsby would have finished third and have a much better chance of winning the play-offs.
I can't abide Vince and all he stands for but I said straight away that the sacking of Pennock was a wise move.

Quoted from ROKERITE

Unfortunately I expect FGR to win the play-offs. If Fenty had changed the habit of the last ten years and sacked Hurst a couple of games ago Grimsby would have finished third and have a much better chance of winning the play-offs.
I can't abide Vince and all he stands for but I said straight away that the sacking of Pennock was a wise move.

Would we have finished 3rd?, time will tell if their chairman's decision was right or not. It's easy to be "wise" when you have millions to throw at your club. What he did not bargain for was his plan back fired as he was going to appoint the coach as manager but the coach resigned when he found out Pennock was sacked.