Subs  Auton, Hume, Green, Wood, Eisa, Vernam, Wilson

Struggling to see a positive result with that lineup, can't understand for the life of me what he sees in Ubikwu  :(

Quoted from Roast Em Bobby

Struggling to see a positive result with that lineup, can't understand for the life of me what he sees in Ubikwu  :(

He's not nearly as good as Obikwu.

From that I see Clifton at Left Wing Back. Maybe trying him there in place of Hume whos not suspended yet, before an important game at the weekend. Personally would have had Harry in the middle in place of Green with Denver in. Obikwu with chance to impress after Wilsons misses at the weekend though still think he gets brushed off the ball too easily.

C'mon boys a win tonight coupled with a defeat for the Veggies and they cant catch us. Then its either Colchester or Sutton for the drop with them! Hopefully Sutton. Hate to see proper football clubs fall down into non-league

Seems very short on wide play

Thought Vernam had a great game at left wingback
And Wilson is better up front
But fingers crossed we get something tonight

Going for a point by the look of it

Bit concerned that starting 11 has Barrow away all over it. They knew we had no threat at all down either wing on Good Friday and took advantage by crowding defenders into their own penalty area knowing we had nobody who could beat a man, and then mugged us off twice on the counter.

Quoted from BobbyCummingsTackle

He's not nearly as good as Obikwu.

;D

Can't help feeling a little disappointed with the lineup. I'm not his biggest fan and  I know he missed a couple of decent chances but at least he got himself into those positions which I am not convinced Obikwu will. He gets out muscled far too easily for me. Would have like Vernam in the starting lineup as well but hey what do I know.

Quoted from mariner tommy

If we win tonight and SU and FGR lose we’re mathematically safe.
UTM

SU aren't playing tonight

Quoted from Stew0_0

From that I see Clifton at Left Wing Back. Maybe trying him there in place of Hume whos not suspended yet, before an important game at the weekend. Personally would have had Harry in the middle in place of Green with Denver in. Obikwu with chance to impress after Wilsons misses at the weekend though still think he gets brushed off the ball too easily.

C'mon boys a win tonight coupled with a defeat for the Veggies and they cant catch us. Then its either Colchester or Sutton for the drop with them! Hopefully Sutton. Hate to see proper football clubs fall down into non-league

Why is Saturday's game more important than today? If anything, I'd say we've got a better chance of getting points from tonight's game.

Quoted from Stew0_0

From that I see Clifton at Left Wing Back. Maybe trying him there in place of Hume whos not suspended yet, before an important game at the weekend. Personally would have had Harry in the middle in place of Green with Denver in. Obikwu with chance to impress after Wilsons misses at the weekend though still think he gets brushed off the ball too easily.

C'mon boys a win tonight coupled with a defeat for the Veggies and they cant catch us. Then its either Colchester or Sutton for the drop with them! Hopefully Sutton. Hate to see proper football clubs fall down into non-league

Harry in the middle ? What to be completely over run like every time he plays in the middle , look we all love harry but ffs he’s not good enough to be in the middle of the park get him at wing back either side or bin him off bias eyes aren’t no good for anyone

Can’t risk vernam playing two games in a short turnaround, plus there will be more defending to do tonight than on Saturday. Harry will be solid as wing back and Hume will have to work his way back in. Obikwu or Wilson? Much of a muchness for me.

Quoted from Roast Em Bobby

SU aren't playing tonight

Yep sorry, got that wrong.

Well I've got the town fans singing but no commentary!!

I've got their commentary

Mansfield 1 FGR 0

Cliftons having a poor game at LWB at the moment his touch has been poor and his inability to use his left peg is limiting him

Clifton hasn't got a left foot so apart from emergency cover not sure why he's preffered to Hume?

Stockport 1 up

Colchester 0-1 Stockport

We never learn, a push in the back in our penalty area.

They are there for the taking tonight. Some great noise from the travelling numbers

Get in

Not able to see or hear match tonight but there seems to be nothing happening on this thread, so I'm assuming it's not very good so far? 🤔
(maybe not such a bad thing as a point would be very nice!) 😁

More dogshit officiating and dogshit decisions, always against us. Ridiculous.

how is that offside?

Damn offside. So close from Obikwu then

Quoted from Plankton

how is that offside?

It wasn't!

Another bell end of a limo, absolutely shocking.

Miles on side . Their player was nearly on the line

Offside??? There’s a bloke on the post!

Sick of these cunting officials.

excrement linesman

Another one . Cheated yet again all the dodgy stuff the penalties against us. Onside goal robbed yet again what is it with this club getting cheated all the time . That was disgusting

Quoted from MarinerDevil

Reffed out of it again.

On this occasion , I think the ref had to go with the Lino. But, how the fu(k was that not given.

Here's a replay. I think the lino's got it right actually.

Even their commentary have no clue why its chalked off. Miles onside. No hand ball.

There’s a flipping player on the line how the intercourse are you giving that offside???

Colchester equalise

How come they are so poor. I’ve run the line and reffed several times and never got decisions wrong like that. They are getting paid for this. There’s got to be a review and take the payments away when they get it wrong.

i see nothing wrong at all with that goal

The referees are getting worse aren’t they? It’s all our own doing though. Who wants do that job with their face on show?

Quoted from MarinerDevil

Here's a replay. I think the lino's got it right actually.

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Do you? I certainly don’t, he’s stood in an offside position a second or two before the flick on but the defender then clearly steps back before the flick, playing him on. Lino’s a couple of seconds out.

Well one thing for certain, we gonna have a long showreel of dreadful decisions that have gone against us this season.
Not just the linesman but why didnt the ref overrule him? Both complete buffoons!

Boo , do I get the points for Obikwu first goalscorer in DB's league ?

Studied it closely and I think he might be slightly off but the Lino must have var

They should get docked wages they dont have to answer to any decision they make, its wrong.  

Quoted from Mappers

Boo , do I get the points for Obikwu first goalscorer in DB's league ?

Hopefully he still will be first goalscorer.

Lino got it right. If you pause it at the moment it's hooked over, Obikwu was beyond the last defender. CBA to figure out how to post a screenshot

Quoted from jimgtfc

Do you? I certainly don’t, he’s stood in an offside position a second or two before the flick on but the defender then clearly steps back before the flick, playing him on. Lino’s a couple of seconds out.

If you freeze it just as the flick-on is made, Obikwu is offside. You have to pause immediately after the start of that highlight to see it.

Looks a lot closer in the replay than it looked at first. Might've been off.

Played alright there.

Like to see Wilson on for Obikwu

Better side. Same again in the second half please.

Decent half for Town that.

Ffs

shite

Quoted from MarinerDevil

If you freeze it just as the flick-on is made, Obikwu is offside. You have to pause immediately after the start of that highlight to see it.

I’ve frozen it, paused it and zoomed it, still think he’s on 😂 ah well 🤷🏼‍♂️

Ffs

But a fu(king thunderbolt

Ffs. Harrogate immediately making use of the wind unlike us and having a pot shot

Please season, finish and fuckoff

Good finish but he had all day

Told ya Harrogate are one our bogey teams.  

Re the offside. If you freeze the video as it starts, you can drag the bottom bar to the exact time the ball is hooked across without restarting it. I have done this and as the ball is played, and sorry he IS just offside.

doing it the hard way again

Harrogate score with there first shot in the match as usual. Cannot wait for this season to fuk off

Keeper should do better.

All down to Clifton giving the ball away, we never touched it again till picking it out of the net.

Shuggar

Quoted from Meza

Told ya Harrogate are one our bogey teams.  

Another non league club in disguise

This just highlights how big the 3 points against Newport was.

Quoted from arryarryarry

All down to Clifton giving the ball away, we never touched it again till picking it out of the net.

Clifton gave the ball away? I am shocked I tell you.

Quoted from Meza

Told ya Harrogate are one our bogey teams.  

Well done Sherlock

Quoted from supertown

Well done Sherlock

Your welcome haha

Looks like a defensive line up tonight.
It has finally failed - need to get Vernam and Wilson on at the expense of a couple of sitting players

Clifton is not having a good game

We need some changes here, midfield have abdicated & it’s not stuck all night for Abikwu

Clifton is soooo non league

Quoted from MaccasBoots

Clifton is not having a good game

Shock horror

We can’t string 2 passes together

Quoted from lukeo

Keeper should do better.

Not sure what he could do. If he jumps and gets a hand to it then it's a great save, if he doesn't he should have done better. The guy had all the time in the world to pick his spot with nobody closing him down.

Green replaces Andrews who has been rather absent most of today

Obikwu lucky to not be hooked.

Quoted from sonofmadeleymariner

Green replaces Andrews who has been rather absent most of today

You’ve spelt season wrong

Quoted from sonofmadeleymariner

Green replaces Andrews who has been rather absent most of today

Like Holohan which is the issue

Obikwu is going back to Cov at the end of the season with a semi decent goal record but it doesn’t tell half the story. He has a lot to learn about game management imo.

Whoa the co commentator please

Please get obikwu off, he's so weak and he isn't good enough at controling it or holding it up

Amazed Harrogate have a spare ball

Please get Obikwu off that football pitch it’s cringy

Need to get something out of this. Don’t see us getting much at Crewe, but I can certainly see Sutton beating Harrogate…

Wilson on for Obikwu and Vernam on for Clifton please

Obikwu is miles off being good enough for me.
He's played some games were he's not looked awful, but he's nowhere near good enough for what we should be aiming for.

We also need much better than Holohan and Andrews in midfield too.

Quoted from 140381

Need to get something out of this. Don’t see us getting much at Crewe, but I can certainly see Sutton beating Harrogate…

Really? If they play anything like they’ve done in this Hal they’ll beat Sutton

Stockport back in front

Just go for it now Dave, take a defender off, get Vernam on and running at them and get Wilson close to Rose. There’s a point in this for us!

Not sure what's happened to Holohan's finishing this season

Holohan, mate.

How do you hit it over from there?

Typical Holohan (non) finish.

Get Chas on I reckon.

Gav misses a sitter… they score their only shot from miles out

Quoted from Davec

Whoa the co commentator please

Dis, aka ‘The Ginger Pirlo’

Holohans finishing has been dreadful this season, after being a strength of his in previous years

Quoted from HertsGTFC

Really? If they play anything like they’ve done in this Hal they’ll beat Sutton

I’m sorry Dave, I’m afraid I can’t do that.

Quoted from 140381

I’m sorry Dave, I’m afraid I can’t do that.

😂😂😂

Why do we have to wait until the 89th minute to get personnel on the pitch who have more chance of getting us a goal? - than those currently on the pitch - ridiculous

This lino is either a cheat or blind as a bat, but either way he should be out of a job

Hume on for Clifton!!
Does this help?

We’ve got an idiot on the pitch and for once I’m not talking about the officials . Class

Is this player management or game management? I can’t decide

Quoted from Teestogreen

Hume on for Clifton!!
Does this help?

Well people were advocating to replace him.  Makes sense to put a proper FB on not sure why HC was playing LB unless Hume wasn't fit to start as that makes no sense.

Anyone else just a little fed up of not getting any luck where the 2nd ball lands. All game if the ball can land between 1 yellow shirt or 3 red shirts 99 times out of 100 it lands on yellow

Quoted from sonofmadeleymariner

Anyone else just a little fed up of not getting any luck where the 2nd ball lands. All game if the ball can land between 1 yellow shirt or 3 red shirts 99 times out of 100 it lands on yellow

It's landed twice for us. A tad unlucky with the first but we should have scored the second.

I like Gav but he"s missed some ruddy sitters this season.

Quoted from sonofmadeleymariner

Anyone else just a little fed up of not getting any luck where the 2nd ball lands. All game if the ball can land between 1 yellow shirt or 3 red shirts 99 times out of 100 it lands on yellow

That’s the best excuse I’ve heard for a team just being better than us.

Quoted from sonofmadeleymariner

Anyone else just a little fed up of not getting any luck where the 2nd ball lands. All game if the ball can land between 1 yellow shirt or 3 red shirts 99 times out of 100 it lands on yellow

Nah, am fed up with just not getting the rub of the green or Decent officials.

Not sure proper full back seemed appropriate last time!

Those who bugged Hume up may reflect on their haste.

On a yellow card already

Hume just hasn't got going for us.

Quoted from HertsGTFC

That’s the best excuse I’ve heard for a team just being better than us.

Its not just that, 2nd half we've been poor no arguing that, but it does. I don't know if its because we're too busy ball watching, our posiitoning is that much worse or whatever it is, but just watch how often a loose 2nd ball or poor clearance doesn't end up going our way

Quoted from MaccasBoots

Clifton is not having a good game

Usually a fan of him but I think this is his worst season for us.

1000 town fans, superb as always.

Quoted from arryarryarry

Usually a fan of him but I think this is his worst season for us.

For Clifton see Luke Summerfield . Decent national league player

For Hume the bell tolls.

Quoted from Croxton

For Hume the bell tolls.

Great Metallica song

Quoted from promotion plaice

This just highlights how big the 3 points against Newport was.

I think it just highlights just how crap we are.

Thankfully Newport were garbage.

Have to say as a third party info,  Man City have just scored 2 brilliant goals in a few minutes in Madrid.

Quoted from sonofmadeleymariner

Its not just that, 2nd half we've been poor no arguing that, but it does. I don't know if its because we're too busy ball watching, our posiitoning is that much worse or whatever it is, but just watch how often a loose 2nd ball or poor clearance doesn't end up going our way

It’s just the fact we’re not very good as our league position illustrates.

Great night.... If you're a Sutton fan.  :o

Glennon > Hume

Decent chance that for Wilson, but we've not done enough this half.

Massive clear out in a few weeks

Beaten again by a better team. 100% effort but zero quality is why we are where we are and while this God awful season goes on and on.

We’re 89th in the pyramid & that game shows you why. Players tried hard but we have too little quality, too many development players in the squad.

Good night for Sutton.

I can’t remember us winning a header in that half.
it’s painful to see us break or push out , we just seem unable to create anything

Let’s face it, we are poor. They had nothing to play for, we had everything and was lacklustre. You can blame officials but at the end of the day we are crap.
Massive changes needed whatever happens.
The best supporters in the league but that counts for nothing.

The good news is that if Wrexham do their jobs on Saturday then we'll be mathematically safe from FGR.

Hmmmmm…could’ve done with a point from that. Dunno if Crewe winning makes it easier or worse for us on Saturday? On the other hand Harrogate still something to play for (just).

Ugh. Fúck this season,

Quoted from HertsGTFC

We’re 89th in the pyramid & that game shows you why. Players tried hard but we have too little quality, too many development players in the squad.

Good night for Sutton.

To add to the flipping loud mouth yorkie sat behind JT was really getting on my mammaries, there’s something I despise about Harrogate.

Absolutely hopeless in that second half. Couldn't do the basics and no fight from any of them. Can't wait for this season to be over

Quoted from HertsGTFC

Those who bugged Hume up may reflect on their haste.

For all the criticism of Clifton tonite Hume struggled defensively more in the 25 mins he was on the pitch than clifton did in his 70. It was a tricky wide player they were up against. To be fair Clifton was poor in his passing and control but he was more dogged defensively than Hume was able to be.

2nd half performance was just not good enough, no quality in their play and not sure if some of towns players were really up for it tonight compared to Saturday’s performance, really disappointed with town tonight.

Team set up not to score -and didn't
Another 3 away games similar and we are clinging to a home win against Swindon.
Not good enough

Harrogate really not been amazing beyond scoring a well placed goal. Should have been there for the taking as before they scored they looked every bit a mid-table team with nothing to play for and uninterested. Bad to get a goal disallowed but we should be creating more chances and taking the ones we do get, Holohan should have done way better with his chance. Rose and Thompson the standouts again, can't fault their efforts. Holohan was poor, Clifton looked to be struggling in that position and Hume wasn't much better when he came on, both look very frustrated players. None of the subs really did anything to change the game, not been a fan of Vernam since he rejoined us, he just doesn't look the same player after so many injury issues.

Should have taken at least a point from this regardless and Harrogate have little going for them beyond one or two good players and some big bruisers in defence as usual for Harrogate teams. I'm sure their fans will be happy returning to their house made of turnips.

That was excrement. We were awful in that second half.

Cannot wait for this season to be over. Just setting off for home now

Quoted from Hagrid

That was excrement. We were awful in that second half.

Cannot wait for this season to be over. Just setting off for home now

Have a safe journey and the same to all our travelling fans.

Even though we lost it was a good night and put us in a stronger position , in terms of other results for us

FGR now have to win every game to go above us assuming we lose every game

Colchester won't be ahead of us before the game next Tuesday .

And Sutton have to effectively win 2 out of 3 to have any chance even if we only got 1 more point .

We are a group of grafters but seems to struggle beyond that - Harrogate seem a decent team tbf and you would hope we can get to a level similiar next season at least  and hopefully quite a bit more as they are probably as 'mid table' as they come ; it's a benchmark I guess .

Awful second half particularly the last 25 mins. Thompson and Tharme were our best  but even then they were average. Even Danny Rose had a shocker in the second half.

Bright spot is that both Colchester and FGR lost, so still 5 points clear and the games are running out. We are actually slightly better off despite losing.

That number 2 for Harrogate was quite the player.

For all the emphasis on playing football at the start of his tenure, we don't play any now.

You've got to think Forest Green won't be able to catch us now. Don't lost to Colchester and they will struggle as well.

Another win or a couple of draws will see us safe.

That was poor to say the least. At the moment very lucky that games are running out. Get rid of the majority of this squad. Just not good enough

Sutton away to Harrogate on Saturday, I reckon they’ll get something

Lots of calls to replace much of the squad in close season. And it’s clear we need a refresh, but I can’t imagine they’ll be queueing up to join a team that (hopefully) finished 89th. Hurst struggled when we finished in the top half.

I hope Artell is persuasive.

Saturday:

Crawley - Colchester
Crewe - Town
Harrogate - Sutton
Wrexham - FGR

Only Harrogate really without much to play for. As long as Wrexham and Crawley win it shouldn’t matter how we do. Worry if we lose next Tuesday!

Quoted from 140381

Lots of calls to replace much of the squad in close season. And it’s clear we need a refresh, but I can’t imagine they’ll be queueing up to join a team that (hopefully) finished 89th. Hurst struggled when we finished in the top half.

I hope Artell is persuasive.

I hope the money is there to persuade them

Quoted from grimps

Sutton away to Harrogate on Saturday, I reckon they’ll get something

Me too. Sutton certainly have a half decent chance of surviving.

Quoted from 140381

Lots of calls to replace much of the squad in close season. And it’s clear we need a refresh, but I can’t imagine they’ll be queueing up to join a team that (hopefully) finished 89th. Hurst struggled when we finished in the top half.

I hope Artell is persuasive.

We will have to pay a premium. Sustainability will have to wait.

Sadly several of our players will playing non league next year even if we aren't.  How many balls,  throw ins, and free kicks can you put into the box with so little effect?

Quoted from 140381

Lots of calls to replace much of the squad in close season. And it’s clear we need a refresh, but I can’t imagine they’ll be queueing up to join a team that (hopefully) finished 89th. Hurst struggled when we finished in the top half.

I hope Artell is persuasive.

No he didn't. The vast majority of his recruitment was very early in pre-season suggesting that those players were first choice or not far off being first choice. He just recruited extremely badly.

Quoted from DB

Have a safe journey and the same to all our travelling fans.

As some know I haven't been well lately and didn't contribute on here tonight, apart from wishing Hagrid and fellow fans a safe journey home. For my effort ( at this time) I have 2 red crosses. I do wonder what sort of people do not wish all fans a safe journey home from away games. To me they are not pathetic but morons who do not deserve to call themselves supporters.

Quoted from ginnywings

Bright spot is that both Colchester and FGR lost, so still 5 points clear and the games are running out. We are actually slightly better off despite losing.

Just seems like Deja-vu, when we are in L2 we seem to spend the majority of our time frantically searching for other teams results as we struggle to maintain EFL status. The pain of supporting town seems never ending and the ups are now so infrequent it’s hard to keep dragging yourself along to watch. Think I will be giving a season ticket a miss next year and be selective of when I attend. Amazing in that I think I have missed five home games this season and we’ve won four of them, says a lot about the quality of my support.

Quoted from grimps

Sutton away to Harrogate on Saturday, I reckon they’ll get something

I’m more concerned about Sutton’s last game at MK Dons if the franchise can only make the play offs.

The earliest I can see this being resolved is when we play Swindon.

Ubikwu goal definitely offside. Holohan second half sitter miss was the draw. We need more composure on ball and just not bloody give the ball away every other move with urine poor passing. If we survive - and given the chance - pre next season will make - or break DA!

Got to be odds on that Wrexham will beat Fgr on Saturday so they will be out of the picture as far as we are concerned. So we need to stay ahead of Sutton.

Tough game for us on Saturday so we need Harrogate to do the business against Sutton otherwise we will still be looking over our shoulder. We might need a point at Colchester and to beat Swindon to be really sure of safety baring a huge turnaround in goal diff.

Quoted from Mappers

Even though we lost it was a good night and put us in a stronger position , in terms of other results for us

FGR now have to win every game to go above us assuming we lose every game

Colchester won't be ahead of us before the game next Tuesday .

And Sutton have to effectively win 2 out of 3 to have any chance even if we only got 1 more point .

We are a group of grafters but seems to struggle beyond that - Harrogate seem a decent team tbf and you would hope we can get to a level similiar next season at least  and hopefully quite a bit more as they are probably as 'mid table' as they come ; it's a benchmark I guess .

Looking at this Saturday’s fixtures, I’m not sure we will win but dare I say there’s not many points coming our rivals way either.

Quoted from wuffing

Ubikwu goal definitely offside. Holohan second half sitter miss was the draw. We need more composure on ball and just not bloody give the ball away every other move with urine poor passing. If we survive - and given the chance - pre next season will make - or break DA!

I have little belief the DA will turn this club around. I think we’ve gone backwards under his management. And that takes some doing.

My only thought is that we are crawling towards safety and that a large percentage of this squad will hopefully not be with us next season. We are pretty hopeless going forward.

Quoted from louth_in_the_south

I have little belief the DA will turn this club around. I think we’ve gone backwards under his management. And that takes some doing.

Though I’ve been back & forth on this and reckon up until & including Donny he was a bit idealistic it’s clear the squad Hurst left behind was way off.

Seen a lot of Harrogate have nothing to play for, they’re currently 4 points outside the play offs.

A positive of Sutton going there Saturday is now Harrogate have an outside sniff and will be desperate for three points.

Anyone getting depressed following Town? yet I think we will survive by the skin of our teeth.

Quoted from Badger57

Great night.... If you're a Sutton fan.  :o

I’d still rather be us than them

Quoted from headingly_mariner

That number 2 for Harrogate was quite the player.

Southampton loanee with Chelsea breeding.....very quick skilful and composed ...pretty comfortable evening for him as we had no one to test him defensively.

Quoted from mariner91

He just recruited extremely badly.

So he struggled then?

Quoted from 140381

So he struggled then?

No. He got most of his top choices and got them in early. It’s just as usual, Hurst had a horrible transfer window in the FL.

I always got the impression he missed a few. Pretty sure he alluded to it. Or Jason did. Especially up front.

Up front was literally the one position he didn’t completely fook up. We made two good signings, Conteh and Rose, and only Rose was Hurst’s choice.

If Rose had a decent partner this season we’d be top half of the table.

Quoted from 140381

If Rose had a decent partner this season we’d be top half of the table.

No chance. With our midfield and defence? Not a chance

All those times we drew? All those chances we failed to put away? Confidence knackered us. Then Conteh left as soon as the wheels fell off. I’m sticking by it. A decent partner for Rose would have seen a much better season.

Quoted from Hagrid

No chance. With our midfield and defence? Not a chance

Our defence is ok-ish, it’s the shambles of a midfield that Hurst left us with that’s the problem. We do have players that offer a threat from out wide (Vernam, Gnahoua and Eisa) but they’re either injured or couldn’t give afuck. Central midfield is just woeful, Thompson excepted.

What has cost us is the ammount of missed clear chances to score. Every player will miss a sitter  but we seem to miss nearly every one of them. Chances that sunday league players put away with ease... The annoying thing is that no matter how bad this team has performed it has created clear cut chances that have been missed more than once in a game. Probably cost us 15 / 20 points over the season. We need to keep Rose and get him a decent partner to stand a chance next season

I don't like to single out young players for criticism but Obikwu was ineffectual last night and subbing him at half time would not have been unfair to him. He struggled to win challenges on the ground or in the air, trap the ball, hold it up or bring other players in to the game. I struggle to see why he's preferred to Wilson.

Tondeur and Dis agreed on the radio with JT mentioning how he was struggling to get into the game from about 15 minutes on.

Quoted from BobbyCummingsTackle

I don't like to single out young players for criticism but Obikwu was ineffectual last night and subbing him at half time would not have been unfair to him. He struggled to win challenges on the ground or in the air, trap the ball, hold it up or bring other players in to the game. I struggle to see why he's preferred to Wilson.

Tondeur and Dis agreed on the radio with JT mentioning how he was struggling to get into the game from about 15 minutes on.

The line up last night was disappointing all round, but we could have done something about it and used the subs much earlier to give them a chance.

Coventry seem to rate Obikwu and we have done our bit to introduce him to the EFL but it would be better for all concerned if he doesn't feature again unless we are mathematically safe as he is offering nothing to the team.

What can the manager and the coaching staff see that we can't,  and why when we are in a precarious position would you play an untried youngster over say Wilson?

Obikwu's future career doesn't hinge on whether we play him whether he deserves to or not.

It's possible that a condition of the loan was that he starts or gets game time and DA needs to keep Coventry sweet for future deals - but I don't know that's a fact.

Quoted from BobbyCummingsTackle

It's possible that a condition of the loan was that he starts or gets game time and DA needs to keep Coventry sweet for future deals - but I don't know that's a fact.

I can't believe we would let our hands be tied like that, but a poor judgement if remotely true.

I am utterly cheesed off with being perennial strugglers and being at the mercy of other clubs being slightly worse, and higher placed clubs using us as a doormat.

Agree about Obikwu, at times it felt like he didn't know what he was doing out there, and I'm amazed at how someone so tall can't win more headers. I would have preferred Wilson to start who is stronger in holding the ball up.

I thought defensively we did ok last night, thought Smith did alright again and interesting that Harry came in a LWB over Hume - who didn't have the best time when he came, or Vernam.

Midfield wise, Gav was getting stuck in but with minimal effect and it took me a while to realise Andrews was even playing. At times it felt like Mullarkey was playing more in midfield and trying to create chances more than the actual midfield itself.

On a fan note, credit to everyone who came along. Right at the end of the match a bloke stood behind me, think his name was Rick became unwell and we had to get the medics. He seemed ok after a while but if he is on here or anyone knows him then please send him best wishes.

Quoted from neverapen

Agree about Obikwu, at times it felt like he didn't know what he was doing out there, and I'm amazed at how someone so tall can't win more headers. I would have preferred Wilson to start who is stronger in holding the ball up.

I thought defensively we did ok last night, thought Smith did alright again and interesting that Harry came in a LWB over Hume - who didn't have the best time when he came, or Vernam.

Midfield wise, Gav was getting stuck in but with minimal effect and it took me a while to realise Andrews was even playing. At times it felt like Mullarkey was playing more in midfield and trying to create chances more than the actual midfield itself.

On a fan note, credit to everyone who came along. Right at the end of the match a bloke stood behind me, think his name was Rick became unwell and we had to get the medics. He seemed ok after a while but if he is on here or anyone knows him then please send him best wishes.

I will support Harry until the die I day but he was woeful last night, couldn't get anything right.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

I can't believe we would let our hands be tied like that, but a poor judgement if remotely true.

Was 6 weeks before he started a game for us so I'd be surprised if it was.

We also haven't scored nearly as many goals from other areas of the pitch which hasn't helped and some of the existing players from last season not having a great season.  

I still think we could do with another attacking midfielder who scores from midfield (Gav being the only one that resembles an attacking midfielder, i know, they don't grow on trees.

I can't believe we are still starting games with not one, but two young and inexperienced loan players in the heart of the team. It was three when Cartwright was in the side, and I think it is extremely poor planning by the club.

I don't want to unduly criticise these young lads, because they all show some promise and may well turn out to have good careers in the game, but it's asking for trouble in a struggling side to have them playing regularly when we are in such a precarious position. It's also heaping a lot of pressure on them to perform to the required standard when they are clearly not yet ready.

Wilson wasn't great on Saturday, and missed three glorious chances, but at least he had the nous and the strength to get himself in those positions in the first place. Better strikers than him have had such off days, when the chances come and go without finding the net. Obikwu doesn't look accomplished enough to lead the line to me, though he did score a goal that was chalked off, but the rest of his game was found wanting and I think he should have been hooked sooner, if not left on the bench completely.

God knows what the other senior pro's think sat on the bench watching him. We'd have been better off with Vernam in a No10 role. At least he can beat a man.

Quoted from Meza

We also haven't scored nearly as many goals from other areas of the pitch which hasn't helped and some of the existing players from last season not having a great season.  

I still think we could do with another attacking midfielder who scores from midfield (Gav being the only one that resembles an attacking midfielder, i know, they don't grow on trees.

And therein lies the problem. Gav isn't good enough on anything like a remotely consistent level.

Quoted from headingly_mariner

That number 2 for Harrogate was quite the player.

For all the emphasis on playing football at the start of his tenure, we don't play any now.

You've got to think Forest Green won't be able to catch us now. Don't lost to Colchester and they will struggle as well.

Another win or a couple of draws will see us safe.

I thought that 2 and Odoh? Down the other side looked the best players on the park barring (our) Thompson - he is too good for us in this current state isn't he ? Let's hope we give him some quality around him next time out to take some of the workload off .