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thebigeasy
November 9, 2011, 10:46am
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No, this can't be happening. Maybe we should all submit our postings to Mr. Fenty for his approval before posting them on the Board.


Oh for goodness sake - I wanted JF to look at the draft first. It was the right thing to do. I didn't have to, and he didn't insist I did. The things that were added were just additional details. They are my words and I'm happy with them.
Am I still crtitical of what has happened and where we are. I am however, better informed now, and want to make sure we have learned from those mistakes and don't make them again. I have never doubted that anyone at the club has done anything other than their best, including JF, but for whatever reason (& I have my own thoughts on that) it hasn't worked.
The question is where do we go from here and how the hell do we make sure that we are now at rock bottom and the only way is up. JF shared with me the financial projections that have been put together for the next year, and the basis on which they were calculated. I disagreed with the basis for those projections and JF asked me for my thoughts which I gave.
The club needs some new ideas, some new energy and some renewed enthusiasm, and a ship load of help. Whether you are critical of what has happened (just like me) or totally supportive, I suggest that the one way everyone can pull together is through the Trust. JF did indicate that if the Trust can prove itself, then it is not beyond the realms of possibility that they could have a seat on the board. His main concern is that the person elected by the Trust to sit on the board could and would become "disconnected" from the Trust members and become another figure of hate - And I have to say I agree with those concerns.
Don't underestimate the potential influence of the Trust - and remember, if the Trust joins the board then the majority of the shares are back in the boardroom!
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I the five hours of pouring his heart out no mention appears  to have been made of the inside details of the Fenty / Parker scenario.

Did Fenty avoid it? Was he not asked? Was he asked but didn't reply? Did he answer but ask that it not be publicised?

How can Fenty protest that he is misunderstood / criticised / abused etc when huge question marks are always left?

Many chairmen / leading directors have received far more abuse than Fenty over the years - crowds far in excess of those at BP chanting to a man for the removal of their club's board and worse. At least the decline in attendances due to Fenty's stewardship has meant a smaller number of fans to abuse him on matchdays. A few snotty nosed kids on the car park behind the Findus who he was easily able to sweet talk is so far the extent of any mass protest / show of dissent against him.


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cmackenzie4
November 9, 2011, 11:32am

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It has been bought to my attention that a recent thread on The Fishy attributed to myself, and the misguided frenzied debate that ensued, has caused deep distress and upset to Mr Fenty. Following his correspondence with The Fishy, I met with Mr Fenty who kindly took a great deal of time to detail the events and the facts that have been a part of his time at the club. In addition Mr Fenty kindly detailed the financial requirements for the rest of this season and the next. As such it is important that the record is put straight.

It is clear to me now that any suggestion that he may profit from the sale of Blundell Park, or indeed the club, are pure speculation and not based on fact, and as such any comments suggesting otherwise are not a fair and reasonable assumption.
On inspection of the latest accounts published by the club it is abundantly clear that the current valuation of the ground is well below the £2.3m suggested in the GET article, as it has been deprecisted to a cyurrent net book value of £1.375m. Furthermore, it has recently been valued at between £1.1m and £1.5m and as such it currently would not support the repayment of Mr Fentys loans.
In addition I have learned that there are safeguards in place, introduced during Mr Fentys chairmanship, to which all directors have agreed and sigend up to, that stipulate loans can only be repaid on the basis of affordability to the club.
Furthermore, the pension payments, which will total £650k, that have been made to Mr Fenty over the last 4 or 5 years, are in fact payments made in respect of a loan made available through Five Start Fish, made at the time of the ITV digital collapse. These repayments are being made in accordance with the agreement at the time to repay him through a pension distribution at the rate of £162,500 over the first 3 years, reducing to £50k for a further three payments with a final payment of £12,500. In no way do these payments represent any "additional" funds, or profit over and above the loans he has in the club.
In addition comments made about the new community stadium project were again based on conjecture. Within the clubs accounts (http://extra-gtfc.co.uk/accounts2/index2.htm) omn page 27, the statement clearly defines the projects and the safeguards that will be put in place to safeguard the future of the club. There is no doubt that serious investment will be required and this will not be found without a viable business case.
During my meeting with Mr Fenty it was very clear that the underlying distrust and abuse directed at him is causing him some very real distress and concern, particularly as it is now becoming extremely vitriolic and is now extending beyond the message boards to public abuse at matches. Quite clearly, no one deserves to be treated this way, especially someone who has supported the club with huge sums of his own money.
I would also remind people that I have always found Mr Fenty to be extremely approachable, and he will always happily take time to try and explain the situation at the club in greater detail, should anyone have any concerns.
For my part, whilst not accepting that any harm was ever intended, and expressing that all I have ever tried to do was to simulate a healthy debate on issues at the club, I wish to apologise for any hurt or distress caused by any clumsy attempt on my part and others, to debate my concerns on the ongoing problems at the club. During our conversation Mr Fenty asked me several times what I would do if I were in his situation – quite candidly, as things stand I wouldn’t touch it with a bargepole. A sentiment, I know, that is quite often expressed by others on here.
Finally, I would also encourage all others to publicly express their apologies on here and concentrate their efforts on providing a united front in order to get the club back to where it belongs in the Football League.


Excellent post  


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Excellent post  


Icey post of the month even.


                             Over 36 years living in Suffolk but always a mariner.
                             68 Years following the Town

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I the five hours of pouring his heart out no mention appears  to have been made of the inside details of the Fenty / Parker scenario.

Did Fenty avoid it? Was he not asked? Was he asked but didn't reply? Did he answer but ask that it not be publicised?

How can Fenty protest that he is misunderstood / criticised / abused etc when huge question marks are always left?

Many chairmen / leading directors have received far more abuse than Fenty over the years - crowds far in excess of those at BP chanting to a man for the removal of their club's board and worse. At least the decline in attendances due to Fenty's stewardship has meant a smaller number of fans to abuse him on matchdays. A few snotty nosed kids on the car park behind the Findus who he was easily able to sweet talk is so far the extent of any mass protest / show of dissent against him.


Don't you get bored of being so negative all of the time?


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November 9, 2011, 11:46am
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Don't you get bored of being so negative all of the time?


At risk of appearing negative - no

I take it you are perfectly happy with the state and league position of Grimsby Town FC?

(are you John Fenty's lovechild?)



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November 9, 2011, 11:49am

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At risk of appearing negative - no

I take it you are perfectly happy with the state and league position of Grimsby Town FC?

(are you John Fenty's lovechild?)



Thought not. Try to do something positive then.

No. Why on earth would you think that?

Don't think so. But will check with my mum.



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Good of fenty to spend 5 hours chatting to a fan of course it is big respect to him for that its the least he can do and know I haven't got any cash to save the club but what I would like is a plan for the future what ever that may be  and no not talk of moving grounds because that is impossible to achieve in this climate its another false hope that won't happen in uif next 5 years I would like fenty to come out with a plan that's achievable  and clever that will get up out of this mess or at least give me some confidence in his ability to run the club, he's a clever man you don't make millions by being a imbecile the's no doubting that, the personal aause he has received from me and others has been quite frankly disgusting I'm not proud of that and I apologise, I'm just ashamed of my club livid even although that doesn't give me the right to throw personal abuse at jf or the gtfc board I feel they deserve criticism but not the personal abuse that I and other have bashed out which was out of order and I accept that, all we want is to pulltin the right direction and abusing john was not the route to go down to achieve that. We all love this club and I feel totally hopeless at the moment while I see the club sink lower and lower all I want to see is what he has planned to get up out of this mess I suppose we will get answers at the agm sorry for spelling and  that put typed on my touch screen and its a reet challenge
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we need fentys dollar but we need him to realise he cant go on making the key decisions,if he can come to terms with that and employ a adam pearson type character on a lower level i admit we perhaps could go forward and turn things around if not i expect the club to go even lower.on the big easy meet nice to see projections being explained but id like to know how john and mike are going to work together for the good of the club rather than there personal dislike of each other
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Thought not. Try to do something positive then.

No. Why on earth would you think that?

Don't think so. But will check with my mum.



1) You're right - I'll get my bottom up to the AGM and vote against Fenty being re-elected as a director
2) Sorry it must the those rose-tinted spectacles you always use which makes it appear that you immediately accuse anyone who tells it as it is or expresses a concern of being negative
3) I hope she clips your ear



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