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April 19, 2015, 10:49am

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That's nice.



Should really be in the ex-GTFC players thread though.


Agreed, which is why I put it there, do I get a green tick?!?   



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Nice to see Southwell has found his level.
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Has he though, seems to me that the next level up or one above is where he will be playing soon, I think Hurst is the type of manager that plays safe with the older more experienced players that fits his defensive style

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Has he though, seems to me that the next level up or one above is where he will be playing soon, I think Hurst is the type of manager that plays safe with the older more experienced players that fits his defensive style



Not teenagers I accept but most of Hursts signings are early 20's with time to develop and improve. The likes of Mackreth, Clay, Toto etc.

For me this is a pleasant change from signing journey men looking for a last pay day
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Not teenagers I accept but most of Hursts signings are early 20's with time to develop and improve. The likes of Mackreth, Clay, Toto etc.

For me this is a pleasant change from signing journey men looking for a last pay day


I agree with that but it would be nice to see some local talent in our squad,

In the past we have had the Moore'S Drinkell, Ford, Wilkinson, Oster, Lund to name just a few,

Plus we have had Wainman, Cumming, McDermott and Croft from a young age,

Apart from developing our own players they have given the club much needed cash when they have moved on,

There must be good talent out  there, we need to keep them and encourage them so they reach their potential.

Or am I just living in the past ?


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yes, perhaps they have wingers who can cross a ball, pick a player out with a pull back or have centre mids who can slip a pass inside a defence.


Yes that is correct ,  Dayle scores few headers but  is brilliant with his footwork and shooting and appears to be getting better all the time .    

Unless he has changed the style of play PH made the correct decision releasing Dayle ,  a sixfoot- plus striker was always required for his game  plan .

Every one a winner ,  PH rid of a player who does not fit into his plans ,  Boston fans seeing entertaining football , Dayle if he maintains his progress will surely move up a step or two ,  and Dave Newton will recieve a few bob towards his new stadium .
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Yes that is correct ,  Dayle scores few headers but  is brilliant with his footwork and shooting and appears to be getting better all the time .    

Unless he has changed the style of play PH made the correct decision releasing Dayle ,  a sixfoot- plus striker was always required for his game  plan .

Every one a winner ,  PH rid of a player who does not fit into his plans ,  Boston fans seeing entertaining football , Dayle if he maintains his progress will surely move up a step or two ,  and Dave Newton will recieve a few bob towards his new stadium .


Don't rub it in  


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Quoted from grimsby pete


I agree with that but it would be nice to see some local talent in our squad,

In the past we have had the Moore'S Drinkell, Ford, Wilkinson, Oster, Lund to name just a few,

Plus we have had Wainman, Cumming, McDermott and Croft from a young age,

Apart from developing our own players they have given the club much needed cash when they have moved on,

There must be good talent out  there, we need to keep them and encourage them so they reach their potential.

Or am I just living in the past ?


Pretty much yes you are living in the past.

It is very difficult for teams to keep their best local players these days especially at our level because of the ability of the big clubs to pick and choose who they want to sign and move into their huge sprawling youth systems.

You have named about 10/15 players in 50 years of history that have been developed by ourselves and proved good enough for either us long term or higher levels. That is always unlikely to be enough to build a contingent of local players, especially in the days of fans wanting quick fixes and short term contracts.

As Aldi said above, we have fans that moan if we don't score in the first 10 minutes, or think its the end of the world if we lose one game in 10. Can you imagine the fury if Hurst had gone into this season with a forward line of LJL, Pittman and Southwell?

The fury if he had persisted with Southwell but he proved not to be good enough for our level?

As BigChris also above, Hurst may not go for teenagers as such but he sees them everyday and he wants whats best for the club - his job depends on it. He has however signed an awful lot of players in their early 20's with the potential to develop. Church, Pearson, Mackreth, McKeown, Thomas, Toto, LJL, Artus, Cook amongst several others were all 23 or younger when they signed. Whilst that may not be an outright youth policy, it is certainly trusting younger players.
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The problem town have in bringing through young players compared to 30 years ago isn't a problem that the manager or coaching staff at gtfc have caused , it's part of the bigger social problems in the area , and nation really .
There must be so many kids who have never had the chance to discover their natural talent for the sport thanks to lack of sporting facilities at schools , Xbox lifestyles , reality tv famous for having no talent , or increased drug and alcohol problems .
It doesn't help that youth team funding has been hammered thanks to being in the conference that means that hurst , love him or hate him , is under enormous financial pressure . Real life Football Manager if you like , so has to make tough decisions . How many on here would've really guessed DS would've scored 30 goals for Boston ? Not many I reckon .


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The most criminal thing about the premiership and TV deals is the complete lack of decent youth funding at all levels. If clubs at every level had access to decent funding for youth coaches and facilities, I doubt Greg Dyke would be messing about with B leagues. I don't have any idea how much it would cost, but one premiership club's annual funding of £80,000,000 at £80,000 per club below league 2 would go a long way.
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Quoted from louth_in_the_south
The problem town have in bringing through young players compared to 30 years ago isn't a problem that the manager or coaching staff at gtfc have caused , it's part of the bigger social problems in the area , and nation really .
There must be so many kids who have never had the chance to discover their natural talent for the sport thanks to lack of sporting facilities at schools , Xbox lifestyles , reality tv famous for having no talent , or increased drug and alcohol problems .
It doesn't help that youth team funding has been hammered thanks to being in the conference that means that hurst , love him or hate him , is under enormous financial pressure . Real life Football Manager if you like , so has to make tough decisions . How many on here would've really guessed DS would've scored 30 goals for Boston ? Not many I reckon .



Good points but I said at the time we should have kept him,

Then loaned him out for a season,

Does anybody have an idea how much that would have cost the club, ?

I know its hard to make a judgment on younger players but Southwell did show enough ability and goal scoring prowess to  give him another year.

I am not knocking the club or Hurst but Boston will be laughing all the way to the bank if Southwell continues scoring next season.



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