More Investment At Lincoln

Quoted from nealeardleyscrossing

Everything we do financially is so we aren't dependent on the Cowley's.
If and when they leave we will be picking managers from a better pot.

It is surprising though that 40 miles away you can't get investment and we can, do you all genuinely think it just down to Fenty..

Didn't he say that Grimsby were a bigger club than Lincoln, I'd like to know what he thinks to that now? Our crowds have been consistent for 3 years now. Despite the banter if Grimsby were  successful at the moment our games would be the best derby in the lower leagues.

Fully accept you’ll be picking managers from a more expensive pot but that guarantees zilch

Quoted from dapperz fun pub

Fully accept you’ll be picking managers from a more expensive pot but that guarantees zilch

I agree but I suppose it makes it less of a risk. Hopefully having moved their family here and having houses built they will be here for a while yet.
I'm just pleased we have Clive, and the infrastructure is now better - It looks like we will be extending SB now, so that is good in a lot of the fans eyes.

It doesn't make it less of a risk.  It's probably higher risk.

In the doldrums of non-league when you sacked that bloke as manager who basically bought the role, you could afford to take the risk on the Cowley's in the hope they could make the step-up from Braintree to a professional outfit.  If it hadn't worked out you would have had a release in their contract, you wouldn't have invested heavily in their infrastructure ideas or their playing staff.  The dud players will have been on lower and shorter contracts so you could wipe the slate clean much quicker.

If/When the Cowley's go you'll quite rightly be picking from a better pool of options.  But you won't be appointing someone on a rolling 6-month contract on a low wage who will be happy to sign players on one-year deals.  Your next manager will be someone who commands a a long-term contract for not only him but also his staff.  He'll be bringing in higher earning players on longer contracts.  If it goes wrong with a new guy, which it quite easily could do, you're lumbered with the burden of playing him and his staff off but also stuck with the players he's brought in.

We've been there, quite recently in fact.  Most of us thought when Hurst left  we would be evolving to the next level with our next appointment.  We made two abysmal appointments and have had to wipe the slate clean again.  

Can only look on in envy at the level of investment that Lincoln are able to attract at the minute.  But the below just sums up why they've got investment, why they're sat at the top of the league, why they've got sell out gates and we're taking another two steps back every five minutes.

"There isn’t one group or one person controlling this club and that’s why we’re able to bring in these other people, whether it’s David Lowes or these four new investors.

“And we’re open to more people coming in and joining this journey.”

Are the new Lincoln investors buying shares or are they loans?
What return are they expecting or are they just making donations because of their love of the Imps?

Quoted from Cloudy

Are the new Lincoln investors buying shares or are they loans?
What return are they expecting or are they just making donations because of their love of the Imps?

I did wonder the same thing.  If Sincil Bank is to be redeveloped, that doesn't really open up any avenue to sell land/build houses etc.  Equally so I can't really see Lincoln getting to the stage of success where they can be sold for an absolute fortune.  

Maybe, just maybe, the guys who are in charge are doing a really good job and selling the product to investors just like they're selling it to their fans.  I mean, we treat potential investment with the same level of respect that we treat our fanbase so would it be that daft to suggest that Lincoln have simply done the same?

Quoted from Cloudy

Are the new Lincoln investors buying shares or are they loans?
What return are they expecting or are they just making donations because of their love of the Imps?

As far as I know there are no loans involved and the new investors don't expect to get anything back in return apart from investing in the football club. At present it's a six figure fee but Clive Nates is hoping they fall in love with the club and will then want to invest more and possibly even add further investors.

The Cowleys are obviously a major cog in our recent success, however CN has been the defining catalyst to this. When Danny and Nicky do go I think the infrastructure will be in place to hopefully continue moving the club forward, though like any football business, nothing is guaranteed.

As I said before, we were down with the dead men sleepwalking to oblivion in the NL, so if we can turn things around on and off the pitch, so can you.

Quoted from Impish2

As far as I know there are no loans involved and the new investors don't expect to get anything back in return apart from investing in the football club. At present it's a six figure fee but Clive Nates is hoping they fall in love with the club and will then want to invest more and possibly even add further investors.

The Cowleys are obviously a major cog in our recent success, however CN has been the defining catalyst to this. When Danny and Nicky do go I think the infrastructure will be in place to hopefully continue moving the club forward, though like any football business, nothing is guaranteed.

As I said before, we were down with the dead men sleepwalking to oblivion in the NL, so if we can turn things around on and off the pitch, so can you.

Thanks for that.

The term 'investors' is not correct then? Seems they are just donating?

Quoted from Cloudy

Thanks for that.

The term 'investors' is not correct then? Seems they are just donating?

Yes they are just donations, I don't think anyone expects to make cash from a Football club do they. Clive seems a very good chairman and appears very driven.
Obviously our success won't last for ever but by getting the infrastructure in place, I would hope we can establish ourselves as a division 1 club.I saw that top end league 1 budgets are 6 million so we have some way to go yet..

Quoted from diehardmariner

It doesn't make it less of a risk.  It's probably higher risk.

In the doldrums of non-league when you sacked that bloke as manager who basically bought the role, you could afford to take the risk on the Cowley's in the hope they could make the step-up from Braintree to a professional outfit.  If it hadn't worked out you would have had a release in their contract, you wouldn't have invested heavily in their infrastructure ideas or their playing staff.  The dud players will have been on lower and shorter contracts so you could wipe the slate clean much quicker.

If/When the Cowley's go you'll quite rightly be picking from a better pool of options.  But you won't be appointing someone on a rolling 6-month contract on a low wage who will be happy to sign players on one-year deals.  Your next manager will be someone who commands a a long-term contract for not only him but also his staff.  He'll be bringing in higher earning players on longer contracts.  If it goes wrong with a new guy, which it quite easily could do, you're lumbered with the burden of playing him and his staff off but also stuck with the players he's brought in.

We've been there, quite recently in fact.  Most of us thought when Hurst left  we would be evolving to the next level with our next appointment.  We made two abysmal appointments and have had to wipe the slate clean again.  

Can only look on in envy at the level of investment that Lincoln are able to attract at the minute.  But the below just sums up why they've got investment, why they're sat at the top of the league, why they've got sell out gates and we're taking another two steps back every five minutes.

"There isn’t one group or one person controlling this club and that’s why we’re able to bring in these other people, whether it’s David Lowes or these four new investors.

“And we’re open to more people coming in and joining this journey.”

Whilst I sort of see the similarities with Hurts leaving - I think we are better placed, crowds/Finances than you were when Hurst left. But I suppose the main difference is your chairman.

Quoted from 137

Putting Darth Vader in charge of PR would be a massive improvement imo....

Even Gerald Ratner would be an improvement at the moment