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Why's that then LM? What's happened?
Well my daddy come on the 0hio works When he come home from world war two Now the yards just scrap and rubble He said, "Them big boys did what Hitler couldn't do" These mills they built the tanks and bombs That won this country's wars We sent our sons to Korea and Vietnam Now we're wondering what they were dyin' for Here in Youngstown Here in Youngstown My sweet Jenny, I'm sinkin' down Here darlin' in Youngstown From the Monongaleh valley To the Mesabi iron range To the coal mines of Appalacchia The story's always the same Seven-hundred tons of metal a day Now sir you tell me the world's changed Once I made you rich enough Rich enough to forget my name https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/may/21/british-steel-administration-jobs-government-loan
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Although I personally don't care if scunny united actually go down the plug hole but, like others on here I have worked on the steelworks ( 40 years) and would not wish the closure, still have mates,colleagues working there. Once again I get the impression senior management, basically Greybull, have screwed over the workforce. Incidentally, how come under EU law, World Trade Organisation rules the government cannot bail them out, but when it came to the banking crisis some 10 years ago the had billions to give?
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Well my daddy come on the 0hio works When he come home from world war two Now the yards just scrap and rubble He said, "Them big boys did what Hitler couldn't do" These mills they built the tanks and bombs That won this country's wars We sent our sons to Korea and Vietnam Now we're wondering what they were dyin' for Here in Youngstown Here in Youngstown My sweet Jenny, I'm sinkin' down Here darlin' in Youngstown From the Monongaleh valley To the Mesabi iron range To the coal mines of Appalacchia The story's always the same Seven-hundred tons of metal a day Now sir you tell me the world's changed Once I made you rich enough Rich enough to forget my name https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/may/21/british-steel-administration-jobs-government-loan
I didn’t listen to the song yesterday and I didn’t make the connection. Doh! It’ll be absolutely devastating for Scunny. A real crying shame if it folds all for the want of a few quid (relatively speaking). I think in reality it’s for the lack of political will - the Tories are still dominated by this belief in the free market. It’ll end up costing the country a lot more than £30 million and as someone else pointed out, a way was found to bail out the banks. I understand that the ‘law’ (though which law wasn’t specified by the minister) prevents state aid that isn’t on commercial terms. Well there’s nothing stopping those terms being a stake in the company - it was fine with Lloyds and RBS.
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Although I personally don't care if scunny united actually go down the plug hole but, like others on here I have worked on the steelworks ( 40 years) and would not wish the closure, still have mates,colleagues working there. Once again I get the impression senior management, basically Greybull, have screwed over the workforce. Incidentally, how come under EU law, World Trade Organisation rules the government cannot bail them out, but when it came to the banking crisis some 10 years ago the had billions to give?
Ten years ago it was a Labour government. They didn’t hide behind the EU.
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Well there’s nothing stopping those terms being a stake in the company - it was fine with Lloyds and RBS.
Nothing other than ideology. Strange how countries such as Germany, Italy, France etc etc etc all have heavy manufacturing industries despite the state aid rules, isn't it? Whenever their heavy industry is put under pressure, they always seem to come out of it still operational. Interesting article about this from a few years ago: https://www.europeanfutures.ed.ac.uk/article-2847
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I didn’t listen to the song yesterday and I didn’t make the connection. Doh!
It’ll be absolutely devastating for Scunny. A real crying shame if it folds all for the want of a few quid (relatively speaking). I think in reality it’s for the lack of political will - the Tories are still dominated by this belief in the free market. It’ll end up costing the country a lot more than £30 million and as someone else pointed out, a way was found to bail out the banks.
I understand that the ‘law’ (though which law wasn’t specified by the minister) prevents state aid that isn’t on commercial terms. Well there’s nothing stopping those terms being a stake in the company - it was fine with Lloyds and RBS.
Coming from Brigg, British Steel was the biggest employment option for all that didn't go to Uni, and nowhere near as many did in my day. Everyone would know someone who worked there or for one of the contractors they used. If it closed then Scunny would end up like Corby and the whole of North / NE Lincs would feel the impact. But what about the strategic impact and, ref. to the Bruce Springsteen song, the UK military isn't going to be soley about cyberwar is it, presumably it will still need some steel? Or will the military rely on China for its manufacturing requirements? Perhaps that is wrong and steel will soon be history in the UK [url]https://www.ft.com/content/c30caf5a-fb2a-11e5-8f41-df5bda8beb40[/url]...
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Coming from Brigg, British Steel was the biggest employment option for all that didn't go to Uni, and nowhere near as many did in my day. Everyone would know someone who worked there or for one of the contractors they used. If it closed then Scunny would end up like Corby and the whole of North / NE Lincs would feel the impact. But what about the strategic impact and, ref. to the Bruce Springsteen song, the UK military isn't going to be soley about cyberwar is it, presumably it will still need some steel? Or will the military rely on China for its manufacturing requirements? Perhaps that is wrong and steel will soon be history in the UK [url]https://www.ft.com/content/c30caf5a-fb2a-11e5-8f41-df5bda8beb40[/url]...
Absolutely right. There seems to be no strategic thinking in the government. It’s all about the here and now and the quick buck, and blame the EU for not intervening in industry when other countries manage to do so. You’re right about it not just affecting Scunny. Not so many do now, but loads of people in GY used to work there. My brother did as recently as 3 years ago.
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