Matt Deans Tweet

What. The. intercourse. Was. Done. To. Our. Club

https://mobile.twitter.com/mattdeanbbc/status/1387141134699401224

Quoted from Hagrid

What. The. intercourse. Was. Done. To. Our. Club

https://mobile.twitter.com/mattdeanbbc/status/1387141134699401224

Probably full of darts...

And fenty let it happen.

The worst of it is that it isn’t a surprise.

Quoted from Yoda

And fenty let it happen.

He done nothing right ever. He couldn’t even sing the Omar Bogle song right at Wembley. That was so cringeworthy

“We do our ball pumping on the field”

What does Fillipe Noche have to say about this Matt Dean tweet!

The night I saw him break the flag of that Newport kid sticks in my mind and demonstrated everything that is Fenty. Thank fcuk he is no more at this club. Welcome messers Stockwood and Petit

That tweet sums up the club to a tee. They have better facilities at Bradley pitches.

But it's onward and upward now. What's done is done and it's time to look forward; get the fans back in BP and let's get back to winning games and making some noise.

Quoted from ginnywings

That tweet sums up the club to a tee. They have better facilities at Bradley pitches.

But it's onward and upward now. What's done is done and it's time to look forward; get the fans back in BP and let's get back to winning games and making some noise.

This.
No one should be surprised about running the club like a tin pot outfit with the current structure.

Agreed it was a shambles but it took us too long to look like a team & when we did it contained too many draws , looking forward now no other way i know it wont be easy tho , gutted is an understatement utm

Forget the past , but this season lays strait at  fenty and hollowheads feet. fenty is not a fan or a suported of our once proud club , because if he was he would not have let things go down as far as they have , While he was calling others tyre kickers he was kicking the crap out of us from the inside ,,And as for hollowhead  with his this is the best run club  and his phone melting , think he should have got a propper charger for it  cos it looks like he got it from the same place he got players from  , poundland.. He conned us all we all fell for it,, he was not here for the football but to make money with fenty any way they could . fenty conned him and they both conned us and we fell for it, I think also there will be more stories to add to the out of shape practice balls . so dont be supprised and buccle up and get the prozak out ready

Not even the balls are round FFS. Its flipping pathetic, the level of incompetence is astounding. Tin pot.

Hope MD isn't  going to a fans forum anytime soon

probably get more coverage from Radio Humberside if the balls were oval

Everything about the running of the club over the last couple of decades is flipping embarrassing.  

Quoted from carrot top

The night I saw him break the flag of that Newport kid sticks in my mind and demonstrated everything that is Fenty. Thank fcuk he is no more at this club. Welcome messers Stockwood and Petit

Looking at all of Fenty’s failings I do also think he isn’t very intelligent. You can have as much money as you like but it doesn’t buy brains.

I have a funny feeling once the takeover is completed there will be a lot more revelations come out about how badly the club has been run.

Quoted from promotion plaice

I have a funny feeling once the takeover is completed there will a lot more revelations come out about how badly the club has been run.

Revelations or just legitimate evidence to support what many of us have been saying for years...

Pele learnt with a tin can in an alley , odd shape balls is just a b0ll0cks excuse for the over pampered modern player.

Quoted from moosey_club

Pele learnt with a tin can in an alley , odd shape balls is just a b0ll0cks excuse for the over pampered modern player.

Players in peles day got on the beers the night before match days, smoked, trained once a week and so on, things change and evolve, as much as people dont like to hear it I think if you transported some of those players through time and stuck them in a premier league match theyd be well off the pace

Cant imagine what its like if youve been at a club with proper training facilities and plenty of staff, and then you join us and your training in a boggy field with some mishapen balls some cones and the gyms at the college, you'd just be demoralised from the start

I don’t think Deane is making a point about the balls per se...

Quoted from aldi_01

I don’t think Deane is making a point about the balls per se...

He was making the point the club is a complete shambles

Exactly...the club has been so poorly run I’d imagine the new owners, and to some extent, Hurst, don’t know where to start...

Quoted from aldi_01

Exactly...the club has been so poorly run I’d imagine the new owners, and to some extent, Hurst, don’t know where to start...

Double glaze the portacabin?

Thing is the principal funder would think that’s a good thing, wouldn’t even detect the sarcasm.

Quoted from aldi_01

Thing is the principal funder would think that’s a good thing, wouldn’t even detect the sarcasm.

Can you put inverted commas around ‘principal funder’ please. He’s not funded anything. He’s getting all his money back and more.

Principal defunder

Quoted from toontown

Principal defunder

That’s a standout centre back from Dudley

Quoted from KingstonMariner

Can you put inverted commas around ‘principal funder’ please. He’s not funded anything. He’s getting all his money back and more.

Sorry, my mistake...’principal parasite’

The fact of the matter on overnight reflection pear shaped balls portacabin training pitch , both managers have been found wanting we had enough games left 25/26 to be well away from bottom two , sorry if this upsets some but it's true , hollohead started it & it's only now we look a proper side , the team that started last nite would finish top ten in this league easily !!!

I’ve heard some excuses but Hurst taking the urine now. He knew full what he was taking on, nothing will mask his total failure of taking on a struggling team and making it worse. Bottom of the flipping league own it Hursty!

Quoted from Humbercod

I’ve heard some excuses but Hurst taking the urine now. He knew full what he was taking on, nothing will mask his total failure of taking on a struggling team and making it worse. Bottom of the flipping league own it Hursty!

This is absolute bollox, you obviously know nothing about football to say that the team is worse now then when he took over.  Lol, you're a nutter, haven't got a clue!

Got a lot of time for Matt Dean.
When it comes to local information, for us, Scunny or Hull, he always delivers.

Gain a lot of respect for him after that fans forum.

This tweet is genuinely concerning, from a guy who says he still wanted to own and run the club, he let us get this low???

When i use to play sunday league, i swear i never see anything like that

Quoted from Humbercod

I’ve heard some excuses but Hurst taking the urine now. He knew full what he was taking on, nothing will mask his total failure of taking on a struggling team and making it worse. Bottom of the flipping league own it Hursty!

Don't disagree with much of this not as though he didn't know the club & it's shortfalls also 20 odd matches to keep us up must be classed as a failure in truth

Quoted from 123614

This is absolute bollox, you obviously know nothing about football to say that the team is worse now then when he took over.  Lol, you're a nutter, haven't got a clue!

The team was comfortably above a relegation spot, Hurst took us to not only rock bottom, but now out of the football league for god knows how many years... just think about that nobhead.

Thought Hurst would do enough to keep us up and as he says himself January was the key month and our failure to win any of those matches was a key factor in our demise. Sky are just covering our demise to rub salt into the wounds and as fans it’s hard to understand why the majority of transfer activity in January takes place on the final day of the window especially when the club is not taking any players from a league clubs starting line up.

Whatever the reason, financial, location and/or our league position we basically lost January and February getting the team sorted and once this was achieved our form has been acceptable but of course we needed it to be exceptional to stay up.

There will have been over the season many mistakes or misses that will have contributed to our demise but four things spring to mind which could have changed our season:

1 Macca’s o.g. against Carlisle
2 LJL’ s miss v Colchester
3 Not seeing out that final minute against Carlisle & Stevenage
4 Williams not scoring that header in the final minute at Mansfield.

Fine margins which change a club’s fortunes and I’m sure there are many more.

Hurst was very slow off the mark in January should of bought a couple in asap we had a disastrous month and signed players on the last day.

Quoted from Yoda

Hurst was very slow off the mark in January should of bought a couple in asap we had a disastrous month and signed players on the last day.

NO NO NO

This drives me insane.

If you thought he was going to come in, and be able to sign the players he wanted (1st choice) you are deluded.

Players don't want relegation on their CV...

The way the club is run is a complete clusterfuck, the balls are symptomatic of everything. Hurst said the other day that the training pitch is worse than one he trained on with a local under 16 side, how can that be right?

And as for these points on the January transfer window nobody knows what budget Hurst had to work with, but given the state of everything else, down to the very balls the players  train with, does anyone really think it was sufficient?

Quoted from Humbercod

I’ve heard some excuses but Hurst taking the urine now. He knew full what he was taking on, nothing will mask his total failure of taking on a struggling team and making it worse. Bottom of the flipping league own it Hursty!

think you must be a rather useless WUM

demoralised, error stricken mckeown/russell v rejuvenated mckeown/eastwood
ponderous, error stricken pollock/waterfall v consistently superb hewitt/menayese
ineffectual rose/ incompetent young loanee v consistently superb coke/matete
Green/Gibson v Hanson/top scorer (in less than 3 months) Shop
rabbit in the headlights preston v consistently solid habergham
overpaid waste of money Bennet v well, anyone who's played that left side under Hurst!

Quoted from Swansea_Mariner

The way the club is run is a complete clusterfuck, the balls are symptomatic of everything. Hurst said the other day that the training pitch is worse than one he trained on with a local under 16 side, how can that be right?

And as for these points on the January transfer window nobody knows what budget Hurst had to work with, but given the state of everything else, down to the very balls the players  train with, does anyone really think it was sufficient?

I don’t doubt for 1 minute that the facility’s are below a professional standard, but it sounds like Hurst is just playing the blame game, he’s coming out with all these excuses now but would of known exactly the state of play when he came back with the 1 job of keeping us in the league.

The Irony is he got sacked from a club that gave him a massive budget, excellent training facilities, strength and conditioning coaches and round balls.

Quoted from Humbercod

The team was comfortably above a relegation spot, Hurst took us to not only rock bottom, but now out of the football league for god knows how many years... just think about that nobhead.

Oh come off it. The team was in freefall and the dealings of the dodgy type must have been obvious to the players, if not to the supporters. Training facilites would have been better at a Primary School by the sound of it.

GTFC as a project has been in decline for YEARS - we got out of NL last time but failed to build on it.

This time it HAS to be different!

Quoted from Humbercod

I don’t doubt for 1 minute that the facility’s are below a professional standard, but it sounds like Hurst is just playing the blame game, he’s coming out with all these excuses now but would of known exactly the state of play when he came back with the 1 job of keeping us in the league.

The Irony is he got sacked from a club that gave him a massive budget, excellent training facilities, strength and conditioning coaches and round balls.

Massive budget? Are you referring to Ipswich who were massivly in debt and told him he had to try and get rid most of the senior pros off the wage books or Scunny who told him he had to get rid before be bought?

He was the fall guy at Ipswich. Recruited for his ability to work wonders with a shoestring. When the players were sold, the owner shifted the blame to Hurst.

Hurst will build a team that fights for the shirt, we can be sure of that.

The tweet sums up this flipping club under John Fenty and it raises two issues for me:

1) The sheer incompetence that Holloway had us operating under.  Unforgivable.

2) The culture at the club that no-one felt they could pump the balls up to a decent standard.   That comes from years and years of micromanagement where Fenty has controlled every single decision.  The contrast when we have Stockwood running the shop is going to blow minds!

Quoted from Youngy

Massive budget? Are you referring to Ipswich who were massivly in debt and told him he had to try and get rid most of the senior pros off the wage books or Scunny who told him he had to get rid before be bought?

At Ipswich he went through 27 players in 149 days (sounds familiar) he was told he had 3M to spend but blew over 6M on 6 players.  Speak to some Ipswich fans and they will tell you he’s one of the worst managers they ever had.

Quoted from Humbercod

At Ipswich he went through 27 players in 149 days (sounds familiar) he was told he had 3M to spend but blew over 6M on 6 players.  Speak to some Ipswich fans and they will tell you he’s one of the worst managers they ever had.

i dont give a flying intercourse about Ipswich

I think he is a good manager and the right manager for the job, give me PH over Holloways Lunacy, Slades Dinosaur tactics, Bignot Bingo or Michael Jolleys defensive minded boring setups any day of the week

anyway i said i needed some time away i need to do it, UTM

Quoted from Yoda

And fenty let it happen.

Fenty enabled it... he made all the big decisions

Quoted from Hagrid

i dont give a flying intercourse about Ipswich

I think he is a good manager and the right manager for the job, give me PH over Holloways Lunacy, Slades Dinosaur tactics, Bignot Bingo or Michael Jolleys defensive minded boring setups any day of the week

anyway i said i needed some time away i need to do it, UTM

None of them oversaw our relegation out of the football league, it could well be a generation before we get back. End of the day he had 5 months give or take and he’s totally failed.... this is not even up for debate.
I really don’t get this love for Hurst!

I think Macca’s interview alluded to many things, namely the fact the club is on its bottom.

Many of us have said for a while that the club seeks to merely exist and nothing more, some people fell for the balderdash from the club and started accepting that. Macca highlighted that people/the club were accepting of defeats.

The balls comment from Deane is clearly factual but also an indication of how amateur everything at the club is.

It needs a full overhaul and anyone that sits on the board should really give themselves a long hard look in the mirror Becauee they’ve enabled Fenty to be the absolute flipping shambles that he is.

Quoted from Humbercod

At Ipswich he went through 27 players in 149 days (sounds familiar) he was told he had 3M to spend but blew over 6M on 6 players.  Speak to some Ipswich fans and they will tell you he’s one of the worst managers they ever had.

But on the flip side, ask any Grimsby fan and they'll say Hurst is one of the best managers they've had in the past 20 years. He's the only one to have led us to a promotion in that time and (without checking) probably has the best win percentage.

A guy who supports Preston told me something very interesting about their appointment of Graham Westley a few years back. Apparently the board knew they had to cut back spending so effectively brought a manager in who could offload players and recruit cheaper ones. Westley probably knew what he was walking into; when it went wrong on the field he'd get the blame and the sack, which was enough of a story to cover the cost-cutting.

I kind of feel like that's where Ipswich were with Hurst. Bring this guy in, reduce the wage budget, it'll probably impact the league position but we'll let the manager take that flak. A 'cover' appointment, if you will, to paper over the cracks.

Quoted from RichMariner

But on the flip side, ask any Grimsby fan and they'll say Hurst is one of the best managers they've had in the past 20 years. He's the only one to have led us to a promotion in that time and (without checking) probably has the best win percentage.

A guy who supports Preston told me something very interesting about their appointment of Graham Westley a few years back. Apparently the board knew they had to cut back spending so effectively brought a manager in who could offload players and recruit cheaper ones. Westley probably knew what he was walking into; when it went wrong on the field he'd get the blame and the sack, which was enough of a story to cover the cost-cutting.

I kind of feel like that's where Ipswich were with Hurst. Bring this guy in, reduce the wage budget, it'll probably impact the league position but we'll let the manager take that flak. A 'cover' appointment, if you will, to paper over the cracks.

In the interests of balance, you wouldn't get a unanimous response on that one at all.  Hurst still splits the fan base.  

I'm happy for him to continue here.  I think that whilst he's made mistakes and was too cautious for too long, he's done a decent job to get us to 2 games to go before we were relegated.  

But it's the splitting of the fan base that worries me a bit.  A couple of early draws against Kings Lynn and Dover next season and Blundell Park will be brewing with vitriol towards Hurst.

Interesting point regards Westley, could read it as Slade Mk II here as well.

Hurst was on to a loser at Ipswich before he started. He couldn’t turn it down, much like the Cowleys were never turning Huddersfield down but neither were gonna work out.

I worked with a bloke who was the brother of Ipswich’s physio at the time, he always suggested that egos of players who believed they were better than a relegation candidate, the clubs desire to slash the wage bill and a club on the downward spiral, much like us was Hursts issue and would ultimately be his downfall.

I know people don’t like it Becauee the little yorkie dared to call out fans or cupped his ear but I don’t think he’s making excuses, I think he’s letting the truth be known in some respects.

Many of us have said the state of the club is worrying; that Fenty has hindered us throughout his tenure. We were often shot down by idiot fans or simply ignored.

Remember when people said many of us were being over zealous saying the club were at fault with the Covid thing...then after investigation, smash, it was our fault.

The lack of forethought to move us forward or invest anything, doesn’t have to be millions, just some ideas would’ve been helpful has seen us return to the abyss once more...

Quoted from RichMariner

But on the flip side, ask any Grimsby fan and they'll say Hurst is one of the best managers they've had in the past 20 years. He's the only one to have led us to a promotion in that time and (without checking) probably has the best win percentage.

You’re probably right to be fair, but on the flip side there were many fans including myself that didn’t want him back.

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A guy who supports Preston told me something very interesting about their appointment of Graham Westley a few years back. Apparently the board knew they had to cut back spending so effectively brought a manager in who could offload players and recruit cheaper ones. Westley probably knew what he was walking into; when it went wrong on the field he'd get the blame and the sack, which was enough of a story to cover the cost-cutting.

I kind of feel like that's where Ipswich were with Hurst. Bring this guy in, reduce the wage budget, it'll probably impact the league position but we'll let the manager take that flak. A 'cover' appointment, if you will, to paper over the cracks.

I don’t believe a word of that pure fantasy but hey it makes a good story.

Quoted from Humbercod

The team was comfortably above a relegation spot, Hurst took us to not only rock bottom, but now out of the football league for god knows how many years... just think about that nobhead.

A comfortable 3 points above 23rd place Stevenage who had two games in hand on us

https://www.11v11.com/league-tables/league-two/01-january-2021/

Yeah everything was hunky dory before Hurst took over  

Quoted from FishOutOfWater

A comfortable 3 points above 23rd place Stevenage who had two games in hand on us

https://www.11v11.com/league-tables/league-two/01-january-2021/

Yeah everything was hunky dory before Hurst took over  

That league table shows what a precarious position we were in, in spite of not being bottom. It will make an interesting comparison to the final league table of the season.

Well we know now why we keep getting so many injuries.

Hurst said the training pitch at cheepside  was as hard as the car park.

Another stupid money saver from Fenty.

The shite that has gone on this season is unforgivable. It was a circus at the start of the season, I’m told as unbelievable as it sounds that Holloway’s wife was helping him choose the players by scouting them on football manager.

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The shite that has gone on this season is unforgivable. It was a circus at the start of the season, I’m told as unbelievable as it sounds that Holloway’s wife was helping him choose the players by scouting them on football manager.

Come on, you know that is not true..

Tea leaves was the strategy...  

Quoted from MarshMariner

Come on, you know that is not true..

Tea leaves was the strategy...  

So it's true... he was interested in buying Lapsang Souchong until he found out he'd already been used in the cup  

Quoted from FishOutOfWater

A comfortable 3 points above 23rd place Stevenage who had two games in hand on us

https://www.11v11.com/league-tables/league-two/01-january-2021/

Yeah everything was hunky dory before Hurst took over  

Good research! My memory is not what it was 🙈

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Well we know now why we keep getting so many injuries.

Hurst said the training pitch at cheepside  was as hard as the car park.

Another stupid money saver from Fenty.

We’ve had a lot of injuries in training in recent years. I wonder if our rate is higher than at other clubs.

Quoted from KingstonMariner

We’ve had a lot of injuries in training in recent years. I wonder if our rate is higher than at other clubs.

Haven’t they always attributed lots of injuries to a team struggling or unsettled?

We’ve been excrement since we went backwards within 24 hours of re-entering the league so it fits I guess...

Quoted from aldi_01

Haven’t they always attributed lots of injuries to a team struggling or unsettled?

We’ve been excrement since we went backwards within 24 hours of re-entering the league so it fits I guess...

Or it could be poor quality surface on the training pitches.

Guess it’s chicken and egg. What comes first, the injuries or the underperforming squad?

Quoted from KingstonMariner

Or it could be poor quality surface on the training pitches.

Guess it’s chicken and egg. What comes first, the injuries or the underperforming squad?

Or the penny pinching, backward thinking idiot running the club?

Quoted from aldi_01

Or the penny pinching, backward thinking idiot running the club?

😆👍

I work for a haulage company and we have a contract on Tuesday to take 7 load of sand to the training ground to improve the training pitches......the new regime is cracking in already!!

Quoted from StickfordMariner

I work for a haulage company and we have a contract on Tuesday to take 7 load of sand to the training ground to improve the training pitches......the new regime is cracking in already!!

Tell your gaffer to make sure he gets paid first. On Tuesday Fenty still owns the club, wrong quality of sand, too wet, too dry etc. Any excuse not to pay. Even wrong size particles of sand!!!!!!!!!!!!

Quoted from DB

Tell your gaffer to make sure he gets paid first. On Tuesday Fenty still owns the club, wrong quality of sand, too wet, too dry etc. Any excuse not to pay. Even wrong size particles of sand!!!!!!!!!!!!

Don't be so daft DB, if it was up to Fenty he'd be down bonkers bank with a trailer attached to his Aston Martin with a wheel barrow and shovel...of course Phil Day would be on shovelling duties though.

Quoted from DB

Tell your gaffer to make sure he gets paid first. On Tuesday Fenty still owns the club, wrong quality of sand, too wet, too dry etc. Any excuse not to pay. Even wrong size particles of sand!!!!!!!!!!!!

Luckily I’m just the transport manager and the company they bought the sand off pays us the haulage so I’m covered there 😂😂 worried about artics on the pitch though might run over a few oval balls!

Talking of Phil. Our favourite insider is keeping his head down.

The club had some flooring laid not so long ago, just before Covid, price is given for the job, young lad turns up to do the work. Gaffer comes following day, club suggest instead of payment perhaps a large advertising board and a couple of shirts and some match tickets...

And just think, the grounds man was furloughed but had he been kept on, could’ve been utilised at cheapside and also stop the BP pitch resembling the texture of an adolescent teenagers face while he throttles his non halal kebab over the grattan catalogue

did the balls have grey flat caps on ?

Quoted from KingstonMariner

Talking of Phil. Our favourite insider is keeping his head down.

Could have sent a PM to Rob asking to be deleted, or helping shovel that sand on Tuesday!

Quoted from KingstonMariner

Talking of Phil. Our favourite insider is keeping his head down.

Hopefully clearing his desk before the meeting next week.

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i dont give a flying intercourse about Ipswich

I think he is a good manager and the right manager for the job, give me PH over Holloways Lunacy, Slades Dinosaur tactics, Bignot Bingo or Michael Jolleys defensive minded boring setups any day of the week

anyway i said i needed some time away i need to do it, UTM

Aye mate, have a break from it for a while. Till the takeover is done.

I'm with you on Hurst. None of this is his fault. I'd hoped he would save us as well, but some people suggesting he has a share in responsibility for what is a culmination of years worth of mismanagement is absurd. He had half a season and inherited a shitshow. Its like blaming the rescue crew for a sinking ship.

Quoted from Humbercod

None of them oversaw our relegation out of the football league, it could well be a generation before we get back. End of the day he had 5 months give or take and he’s totally failed.... this is not even up for debate.
I really don’t get this love for Hurst!

Humbercod
How would you describe our preparation for this season ?
Player retention
Player recruitment
Preaseason friendlies

Quoted from Humbercod

None of them oversaw our relegation out of the football league, it could well be a generation before we get back. End of the day he had 5 months give or take and he’s totally failed.... this is not even up for debate.
I really don’t get this love for Hurst!

Humbercod
How would you describe our preparation for this season ?
Player retention
Player recruitment
Preaseason friendlies

Interesting point made earlier about Hurst's time at Ipswich being beset with egos and players on bigger contracts.

I believe some managers aren't cut out to work at big clubs. We know that Hurst is excellent at building squads that play for each other, where there are no egos, just proper team players.

He seems to recruit players who have something to prove, and tends to get the best out of them (not always).

I imagine it's very different managing a team of players that are roughly on £800 - £1500 a week than it is to manage players who are on ten times as much. Those coining it in have probably never had to contemplate a career after football, or known what it's like to work before getting into pro football.

Maybe Hurst couldn't relate to players on that kind of money, and perhaps they didn't share his work ethic. I'm speculating, of course, but I do believe disparities like this exist in football (and in most sports). The gap in pay between L2 and Championship is vast now.

Quoted from RichMariner

The gap in pay between L2 and Championship is vast now.

Id say the gap in L2 between some clubs (forest green, Salford) and others ( Barrow, Harrogate) is probably huge too mate

Quoted from RichMariner

Interesting point made earlier about Hurst's time at Ipswich being beset with egos and players on bigger contracts.

I believe some managers aren't cut out to work at big clubs. We know that Hurst is excellent at building squads that play for each other, where there are no egos, just proper team players.

He seems to recruit players who have something to prove, and tends to get the best out of them (not always).

I imagine it's very different managing a team of players that are roughly on £800 - £1500 a week than it is to manage players who are on ten times as much. Those coining it in have probably never had to contemplate a career after football, or known what it's like to work before getting into pro football.

Maybe Hurst couldn't relate to players on that kind of money, and perhaps they didn't share his work ethic. I'm speculating, of course, but I do believe disparities like this exist in football (and in most sports). The gap in pay between L2 and Championship is vast now.

Absolutely. Look at the Premier League. Sean Dyche has worked wonders at Burnley but most of them players are only playing at that level because of Sean Dyche. Put him in charge of a bigger club and he will most likely fail.

Quoted from RichMariner

But on the flip side, ask any Grimsby fan and they'll say Hurst is one of the best managers they've had in the past 20 years. He's the only one to have led us to a promotion in that time and (without checking) probably has the best win percentage.

A guy who supports Preston told me something very interesting about their appointment of Graham Westley a few years back. Apparently the board knew they had to cut back spending so effectively brought a manager in who could offload players and recruit cheaper ones. Westley probably knew what he was walking into; when it went wrong on the field he'd get the blame and the sack, which was enough of a story to cover the cost-cutting.

I kind of feel like that's where Ipswich were with Hurst. Bring this guy in, reduce the wage budget, it'll probably impact the league position but we'll let the manager take that flak. A 'cover' appointment, if you will, to paper over the cracks.

Erm......no one has asked me yet

Quoted from arryarryarry

Erm......no one has asked me yet

No one needs to. You tell us in every post how terrible Hurst is.

Quoted from ginnywings

No one needs to. You tell us in every post how terrible Hurst is.

Doh.....read my posts and find where I have used the word "terrible"

Because I don't rate him I believe I am free to post the opposite view to those that do or are you some sort of fascist that wants to stop other peoples opinions?

If you search my posts you will see I am in the main posting facts about his record this season as a reply to those that seem to think he is our saviour.

Quoted from Humbercod

Good research! My memory is not what it was 🙈

Well you know how it is

Have to get your facts right.....

Quoted from RichMariner

I believe some managers aren't cut out to work at big clubs.

Buckley at WBA springs to mind as well

Quoted from arryarryarry

Doh.....read my posts and find where I have used the word "terrible"

Because I don't rate him I believe I am free to post the opposite view to those that do or are you some sort of fascist that wants to stop other peoples opinions?

If you search my posts you will see I am in the main posting facts about his record this season as a reply to those that seem to think he is our saviour.

Fascist?  

You are absolutely entitled to your opinion but it is constantly negative in every single post and the crucial thing is that it is without context. You're blaming Hurst for being the last one standing at the sh1t show.

You are posting facts you say, but facts can be viewed in different ways when you add the mitigating circumstances. I don't think he is our saviour, I just think he was someone who was dealt a sh1tty hand and played it the only way he thought he could, but it was too little, too late.

To take John Macca's analogy further: we were trying to win a gunfight armed with a knife and there were no guns left for sale.

In the last 30/40 years the two managers that have had success both left for bigger clubs and failed. Perhaps, as highlighted in this post, they’re better at working with smaller budgets, players that aren’t just motivated by cash and work tirelessly on developing a work ethic and squad that will almost die for each other.

Quoted from MNH1972

Humbercod
How would you describe our preparation for this season ?
Player retention
Player recruitment
Preaseason friendlies

Quite shocking really! Although I did support the clubs decision At the time on these so called covid contracts.

The beauty of these forums is that we're all entitled to an opinion, in fact it's part of the fun in football. We just need to be courteous because we're all Grimsby fans
Hurst will always divide opinion but I hope we can support him positively. Whenever you measure the success of a GTFC manager in the last 17 years you have to factor in the influence of our dear leader so for me he's an overall success.I hope we can give him a chance to succeed, not wait for him to fail and I truly hope that this time next week there will be blue skies over Blundell Park and the new regime can build a positive future
I'm going for walk now before the medication wears off

Quoted from Humbercod

None of them oversaw our relegation out of the football league, it could well be a generation before we get back. End of the day he had 5 months give or take and he’s totally failed.... this is not even up for debate.
I really don’t get this love for Hurst!

  As you can see, people don't agree with you, that is because you don't see what Hurst did to to the 'non-team' he took over, and put together a decent team that beat Bolton away.  Go away and read some books, watch some videos and see if that will help you see the difference between Holloways team and Paul Hursts team.

Quoted from diehardmariner

In the interests of balance, you wouldn't get a unanimous response on that one at all.  Hurst still splits the fan base.  

I'm happy for him to continue here.  I think that whilst he's made mistakes and was too cautious for too long, he's done a decent job to get us to 2 games to go before we were relegated.  

But it's the splitting of the fan base that worries me a bit.  A couple of early draws against Kings Lynn and Dover next season and Blundell Park will be brewing with vitriol towards Hurst.

Interesting point regards Westley, could read it as Slade Mk II here as well.

So just how much is the fan base split(and I don't mean just those on this forum), 50/50, 40/60 90/10, and could you show me what evidence/proof you have of that statement?