P.Vale match thread - sponsored by Vanarama

don't quite know how we will find out the line up before kick off, but might be an interesting selection

I would imagine Grimsby Live's live updates feature might get a record amount of viewers!

Don't let us down Mr Findlater!

Team news: Eastwood in, five changes
Five changes for the Mariners this afternoon - the biggest one sees Jake Eastwood replace James McKeown.

Meanwhile, Luke Hendrie and Sean Scannell return, while Ira Jackson Jr and Sam Habergham start.

TOWN: Eastwood, Hendrie, Hewitt, Menayese, Habergham, Scannell, Coke, Clifton, Khouri, Green, Jackson Jr.

Subs: McKeown, Waterfall, Pollock, Spokes, Lamy, Adlard, John-Lewis.

Unless he's planning on signing Eastwood I don't see the point in him playing and not Macca?

Pollock on the bench. Thought he’d had an operation?

Hurst is probably playing the players that will be here next year. Good to see Jackson Jr given a start.

You’d imagine some of that XI are fighting for contracts next season

Quoted from Rick12

Hurst is probably playing the players that will be here next year. Good to see Jackson Jr given a start.

Please god not green. I thought Jackson would start with the shop

Quoted from Rick12

Hurst is probably playing the players that will be here next year. Good to see Jackson Jr given a start.

Scannell? Hope not. No way that guys deserves to be here next year. How much has he been paid so far for a handful of games and no significant performances?

Quoted from cardiffmariner

Scannell? Hope not. No way that guys deserves to be here next year. How much has he been paid so far for a handful of games and no significant performances?

It's much easier to sell him if he's put in the shop window, hence him needing to play some games.

Quoted from IrishMariner

It's much easier to sell him if he's put in the shop window, hence him needing to play some games.

We will struggle to sell him, nobody will pay for him 😉

Quoted from toontown

Please god not green. I thought Jackson would start with the shop

LJL needs a rest, I would guess he will come on sometime though.

maybe there's an element of resting Macca & Shop, whilst Spokes ,as a young player, might need a break. Also gives scannell a chance to play that Matete type role. if we've got him contracted for next year we might as well give him a chance


ps 1 good thing i heard on hurst pre match is that Wright is going to be given some individual help/advice/coaching on injury prevention. We haven't heard anything like that before

The Shop needs a rest?  lol
He's been asleep most of the time on the pitch as it is.

Macca - emotional drained I'd think...given a rest
Shop - given his all and deserves a rest
Scannell - as far as squad Hurst has to work with the obvious choice (and might be 'see how much you care')
Ira - grab your chance

So no complaints from me

Quoted from Morris Minor

The Shop needs a rest?  lol
He's been asleep most of the time on the pitch as it is.

Interesting comment, far more effective than any striker we have had in the last couple of years, we will see the big difference it makes today without him on the pitch.

Quoted from Morris Minor

The Shop needs a rest?  lol
He's been asleep most of the time on the pitch as it is.

I can't agree with that

Quoted from Davec

We will struggle to sell him, nobody will pay for him 😉

We might manage to fool somebody

Quoted from toontown

Please god not green. I thought Jackson would start with the shop

Green scores the winner in the next 2 games, we finish above Southend.

Oldham go bust, we stay up.

You heard it here first  

Quoted from toontown

I thought Jackson would start with the shop

So did I

Quoted from cardiffmariner

Scannell? Hope not. No way that guys deserves to be here next year. How much has he been paid so far for a handful of games and no significant performances?

Hurst has his reasons though. Cant say Ive seen much of him to be fair.

Leaves the top scorer spot wide open with that team selection

Ira's on 3 and Lenell on 4

Plus Matty P on the bench on 3

The honour is up for grabs  

Quoted from FishOutOfWater

Leaves the top scorer spot wide open with that team selection

Ira's on 3 and Lenell on 4

To be fair to Ira thats not bad considering he hasnt played that much. I remember when he scored his debut goal for us and the delight for him and his family especially his brother on twitter. I suppose any true fan would be over the moon to score for Grimsby though if we had the ability  

Whilst I’m sure he’s probably not there anyway...this could be the last time a Fenty is anywhere near BP...hopefully...

JT, "3 coming in at the far side", wrong, only 1. He often miscounts the number of players in a particular incident.

Crofty with ‘Scannell has a lot to prove...”

You’re not wrong, perhaps he could prove he’s not a wage stealing flipping fraud?

Good news (if true) about support for Max.   I think that he is has a lot to give next season.  We need his pace  and skills.  He is Town through and through.  After bad injuries many players come back even mentally stronger.  

The pitch hasn't fully recovered has it from the club furloughing the groundsman.

Quoted from lukeo

Unless he's planning on signing Eastwood I don't see the point in him playing and not Macca?

Give Macca a break.  He knows his strengths and weaknesses. Macca was much improved after Eastwood came in.  

JT  what's Fenty left behind?   Any comments?

JT  what's Fenty left behind?   Any comments?

Quoted from DB

JT  what's Fenty left behind?   Any comments?

Crofty ....."a non league club"  

15 mins gone and nothing exciting, they look what they are relegated and nothing to prove. Defence not looking as composed as they have been over the last few weeks and nothing in attack, again.

15 mins gone and nothing exciting, they look what they are relegated and nothing to prove. Defence not looking as composed as they have been over the last few weeks and nothing in attack, again.

Barrow 1-0 Southend

Would still be nice not to finish bottom.

JT  what's Fenty left behind?   Any comments?

Plenty of memories both good and bad.

Bogle's pair at Wembley, The 2-0 home win against Morecambe, first match back in the league.
Too many relegations without enough promotions.
Too many managers who are mostly clueless.

Wonder if anything will change under new ownership?
Or will it quickly become Status Quo and chugging along like a little steam train?

Just done my tax return while listening to the game - which was the most exciting?

Strange feeling to be sitting here with a game in progress without the incredible combination of tension, dread and hope running through your brain, praying for a goal. The first stress free match day this season.

Haha GREEN scores.

lol cheers port vale

Goal, winning green proves his worth.

Nice to be above Southend

flipping woeful back pass...

Fair play to green for being alert to the play...

1-0

Green on target again

Town type defending from vale  let's green in to finish  one on one with keeper.good finish. Could he become leading scorer  and gain himself a new contract?

Quoted from promotion plaice

Green scores the winner in the next 2 games, we finish above Southend.

Oldham go bust, we stay up.

You heard it here first  

Tucked that away nicely tbf

He’s prolific

The boy is reincarnated - I foresee a hat trick looming - maybe!

Good ave from Eastwood keeping us in it.

HT's

Town 1-0 Port Vale
Barrow 1-1 Southend

Peterborough 0-2 Lincoln...ffs

Abysmal defending there. Eastwood stood up well.

Great save by Eastwood there.

Get Green off before he gets sent-off.

Looks a bad one on Eastwood there - took a knee right to the skull. Think that'll be his day over unfortunately.

Barrow 1-2 Southend

Have to say I think Gary Croft is a very good co-commentator. Insightful and pretty positive

Quoted from buckstown

Have to say I think Gary Croft is a very good co-commentator. Insightful and pretty positive

Him and JT make a good duo

Quoted from BenBB

Him and JT make a good duo

Apart from the goal, they've been the best bit of entertainment.

Living dangerously there, very lucky not to concede

Town hanging on here.

4 on 1 and we can't finish them off. Sums up our season.

Scunny get  their point so Southend down - shame

JT’s microphone creaking is bizarrely reminds me Morse code and the dog from snatch.

Quoted from buckstown

Scunny get  their point so Southend down - shame

Don’t worry in 12 months they will be joining non league basket case

Peterborough score a 6th minute injury time leveller after being 0-3 down to Lincoln, full time 3-3.

Peterborough promoted, Lincoln have to settle for the lottery of the play-offs  

Just think if it wasn't for Declan Bourne and that dodgy ref against Exeter we'd now be on 49 points and out the relegation. Despite what has gone on off the field, Hurst would have got us out of it if it wasn't for scarily inept refs

Quoted from horsforthmariner

Just think if it wasn't for Declan Bourne and that dodgy ref against Exeter we'd now be on 49 points and out the relegation. Despite what has gone on off the field, Hurst would have got us out of it if it wasn't for scarily inept refs

Well technially we'd be on 48 (we still got a point against Salford) but yeah we'd still be in the hunt.

Sad to think about it really.

One more game left in a season of “if only” no consolation at all but the lads did shows some pride.

I know he’s 35 (I think) but we need to get Coke signed for next season.

Quoted from horsforthmariner

Just think if it wasn't for Declan Bourne and that dodgy ref against Exeter we'd now be on 49 points and out the relegation. Despite what has gone on off the field, Hurst would have got us out of it if it wasn't for scarily inept refs

There’s loads of reasons we got relegated, and plenty of people to blame, but refs ain’t one of them.

1-0 f.t. lots of positive defensive things, good attitude and desire from the players, lots of energy.
Sums up what we know - Hurst has managed to get a good group spirit from his small squad of hard working committed players. He has got us organised defensively but we need a whole new offensive/creative unit.

Coke motm (can he do a full conference season at 35/36 must be the big question?)
Clifton, Menayese & Hewitt not far behind. Good little cameo from Pollock - could he be part of abck 3 next season?

Quoted from horsforthmariner

Just think if it wasn't for Declan Bourne and that dodgy ref against Exeter we'd now be on 49 points and out the relegation. Despite what has gone on off the field, Hurst would have got us out of it if it wasn't for scarily inept refs

It's always the ref's fault at this club, I'm sure other clubs have dodgy decisions go against them most weeks.

Why can't you just accept that we have been sh1t for most of the season.

You finish where you deserve to finish !

Well, we won and that's all you can really say. Scannell didn't do enough for me to stay, he huffed and puffed but that was it. Green seems to be getting better and scored again so I'd keep him.

I thought Khouri had a poor game today and struggled, also Jackson wasn't that good for the full 90 mins. Pollock did ok when he came on and the usual performance from Hewitt, Hendrie, Menayese, and Habs.

I think the Exeter game took a lot out of all of them mentally and physically and it showed. But hey a win is a win so it's a good result. Just a shame it too late to mean anything.

A kind of symmetry to our five year spell in the EFL I suppose with this final home game and win

August 2016 to May 2021

A victory in the sunshine and a clean sheet but it feels kind of hollow

But.... who knows where we might be five years from now under Stockdale & Pettit

Championship anyone?  

Port Vale fans scathing about the ref today and my spurs supporting mate is permanently scathing about referees. Moral of the story is they're human and make mistakes but over a season it probably balances out

Quoted from DB

Green seems to be getting better and scored again so I'd keep him.

😱😱😱

I like this group of players.  They had some luck today but they showed some spirit when they could have not showed up.  Hope we can keep a core for next year.

Its surprising how much better Green is now he's looking at being on the dole by June.

Quoted from Madeleymariner

Its surprising how much better Green is now he's looking at being on the dole by June.

We need better than green if we are serious about our non league stay being a short one , he’s crap

Quoted from Madeleymariner

Its surprising how much better Green is now he's looking at being on the dole by June.

I've never been a Green fan, see my previous posts, but one thing happened in the last 2 games, he scored because he was in the right place doing the right things. I'm not going to rave about the rest of his time on the pitch but at the end of the day if it's Green or somebody else I'm quite willing to see them do sweet f/a all game but score.

Quoted from DB

if it's Green or somebody else I'm quite willing to see them do sweet f/a all game but score.

Unfortunately, he's only done the former in 51 out of his 56 league games for us.

We don’t want Green anywhere near the club if we have any hope of a quick return.

Quoted from Lincoln Mariner 56

We don’t want Green anywhere near the club if we have any hope of a quick return.

How the intercourse could anyone red x that

This forum is unbelievable sometimes, Green is not even good enough for the National league North/South. No way is he good enough if we want to return to the EFL anytime soon.

Quoted from horsforthmariner

Just think if it wasn't for Declan Bourne and that dodgy ref against Exeter we'd now be on 49 points and out the relegation. Despite what has gone on off the field, Hurst would have got us out of it if it wasn't for scarily inept refs

You do have to laugh at this ridiculous scenario.
Just accept officials make mistakes and move on.
Unless you'd like to see VAR in the lower leagues which will introduce more dubious decisions to discuss.

Quoted from Abdul19

Unfortunately, he's only done the former in 51 out of his 56 league games for us.

What I tried to emphasise was it doesn't matter if it Green or A N OTHER I'm not bothered but what we haven't had all season is a goal scorer.

So if  A N OTHER  does sweet FA all game but puts the ball in the net then I'm happy.

Green is the personification of the type of player we don't want next year - overpaid, lazy, disinterested, utterly shite, useless, only turns on his effort against ex clubs ( who he is even worse against cos he wastes possession so much).

I do not wish to sound disrespectful to our Site Publisher in any way as I know you do a fantastic job. I do hope that when you do the player ratings for this (Vale) game that you do not include Louis Boyd 34.

Unfortunately, he was included in both the Exeter and Oldham rating and didn't play, nor sub, in neither; likewise he was not involved in any way in the vale game.

Quoted from DB

I do not wish to sound disrespectful to our Site Publisher in any way as I know you do a fantastic job. I do hope that when you do the player ratings for this (Vale) game that you do not include Louis Boyd 34.

Unfortunately, he was included in both the Exeter and Oldham rating and didn't play, nor sub, in neither; likewise he was not involved in any way in the vale game.

This has also caused me endless sleepless nights! 🤨

Green was a very good striker who used his pace to play off the shouder of the centre backs and was a decent finisher. That's why he's had a very good career and scored a lot of goals. Now he is in his mid thirties and has lost that yard of pace he is less effective and a new contract would be a bad idea. Giving him a 2 year contract on a good whack was a mistake but that decision wasn't his and it doesn't make him lazy or excrement or mean he has robbed a wage.

Quoted from toontown

Green is the personification of the type of player we don't want next year - overpaid, lazy, disinterested, utterly shite, useless, only turns on his effort against ex clubs ( who he is even worse against cos he wastes possession so much).

Strange how PH has sung his praises about his attitude and commitment in training. Clearly his legs have gone and he hasn't been able to adapt his play. Does that make him lazy, excrement, robbing a wage etc. Not in my opinion.

Still managed a couple in the last few games.

Can I preempt any criticism by saying it was a mistake to give him a 2 year deal and no I wouldn't have him here next season.

I’m not convinced Green is either a wage stealer or lazy, I just think he’s done. He’s finished. He’s chipped in with a few goals, no where near enough though.

I get the impression he’s actually a good professional and from what PH has said, he seems to be a good bloke to have around but it is time for him to move on. I don’t blame Green for a two year deal, fair play to him for getting one.

Is it frustrating when he plays; almost 100% of the time it is but wage stealer is harsh when we’ve the likes of Scannell at the club...

The fact Green has put in a few decent performances at the end of the season should annoy you, not make you want him to stay ffs. He’s absolutely awful and if you want him here next season you deserve all the shite he’ll deliver for you

Any of you thinking green isn't lazy, watch his games against his ex clubs. I know players often give that little bit extra against previous clubs, which is fair enough, but green is completely transformed,his physical contribution is upped dramatically. That is what he has the physical capability to do if he can be arsed. 98% of the time he can't be.

The effort he puts in is a box ticking effort, he does just enough to appear to be trying.

Even when he does try though he is still utterly excrement, he doesn't actually play well against these old clubs, its just the effort level that changes.

Quoted from aldi_01

I’m not convinced Green is either a wage stealer or lazy, I just think he’s done. He’s finished. He’s chipped in with a few goals, no where near enough though.

I get the impression he’s actually a good professional and from what PH has said, he seems to be a good bloke to have around but it is time for him to move on. I don’t blame Green for a two year deal, fair play to him for getting one.

Is it frustrating when he plays; almost 100% of the time it is but wage stealer is harsh when we’ve the likes of Scannell at the club...

Agreed, I have seen a large proportion of the games that Green has played for us. I do not in anyway believe he is lazy or does not try. Equally he is nowhere near one of the worst strikers that we have ever had. Nevertheless he is no longer effective and his race is run utm

Green was a good lower league striker in his younger days. He no longer is and after the next game, he will be an ex player. Another we signed too late in his career.

We need to be finding players that are improving and attracting the attention of clubs above us, mixed in with a few who are at the top of their game in experience. Only then will we have any success on the pitch.