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Having conversed with two local reporters about Ohman, they both reckon that once his furlough finishes, which could be as soon as next Saturday, he is free to return to GTFC for next season.

His furlough meant that he was unable to return even if Hurst wanted him back to shore up his defensive line. For all we know Hurst could think very highly of Ohman.

So officially, and legally, he is still a Town player.

Could he be an option for Hurst for next season?
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That doesn't add up because you can bring people off furlough whenever you want.
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Quoted from jamesgtfc
That doesn't add up because you can bring people off furlough whenever you want.


This is GTFC...we’ve probably made some absolute balls up of it...


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Having conversed with two local reporters about Ohman, they both reckon that once his furlough finishes, which could be as soon as next Saturday, he is free to return to GTFC for next season.

His furlough meant that he was unable to return even if Hurst wanted him back to shore up his defensive line. For all we know Hurst could think very highly of Ohman.

So officially, and legally, he is still a Town player.

Could he be an option for Hurst for next season?


How do we actually know he’s been furloughed? If he’s on furlough you can be brought back at anytime. Also to put someone on furlough it’s on the basis of there’s no work for them.


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It stacks up that he's still contracted to us because new signings have taken the shirt number of all the other departed players.

I guess the biggest issue around bringing him back would be that he would need to isolate for 10 days if he's gone back to Sweden and wouldn't be match fit either.
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It stacks up that he's still contracted to us because new signings have taken the shirt number of all the other departed players.

I guess the biggest issue around bringing him back would be that he would need to isolate for 10 days if he's gone back to Sweden and wouldn't be match fit either.

I think the original poster meant bringing him back for next season.

Thought he'd left by mutual consent anyway.



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His contract was due to end next month anyway wasn't it?

If he's at GTFC next season I'll start a chant of John Fenty's black and white army at the first away game.


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He will be out of contract in a week so he will be a few agent.

Doubt he would want to come back here to play non league.

Unless we had a option of another year , does anybody know ?


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he has left by mutual consent
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Still a GTFC employee but furloughed and in Sweden. Contract expires at end of June. He won’t be coming back.
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Let's remember it was Holloway that announced both Öhman and Mohsni had left the club. We know what a farce the Mohsni departure was. Hurst has been asked a question about Öhman a couple of months ago and the answer was very wishy washy.
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Still a GTFC employee but furloughed and in Sweden. Contract expires at end of June. He won’t be coming back.


I’ve asked before how do we know this for sure?


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I’ve asked before how do we know this for sure?


Both reporters I have spoken to both confirmed they were told that the club had put him on furlough until the end of the season.

If he had been released,  as someone else mentioned, then his squad number would have been reassigned.

Also if he had left the club like so many others throughout the season, he would have been removed from the GTFC website, but all through, he has shown as still a GTFC player.
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I would imagine it was an agreement to effectively end his contract on mutual terms , we pay him less for the remainder of his contract and get the government to pay the rest , cheaper than paying him off completely for us.....i say that as i would think that would be the cheap option....and we know how much a cheap option appealed to the board.

Seriously dont think he will be seen again in our colours ...or in English football.



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Only one person can crack the case of the disappearance of Ludvig...

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According to Transfermarkt he is a free agent: https://www.transfermarkt.com/ludvig-ohman/profil/spieler/77841


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If we've furloughed a player we didn't fancy then that only brings more shame on the club. Furlough is not there to shelf contracted players you don't want anymore using public money.
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So like everyone else on here I don’t really know what’s happening with Ludwig but I have been closely involved with furlough in the last 12 months and the following is true,

- You have to be able to prove to the HMRC that there is no work for the colleague, whether they ask or not is a different matter. They have recently been auditing claims.

- You can place someone on furlough if they’re stuck overseas due to non travel restrictions like the ones currently in place for India, not sure if Sweden falls into this category but I’d doubt it.

- You would be on very stony ground if you placed someone on furlough if you never intended to employ them again.

Personally I think it’s completely irrelevant as he won’t be coming back anyway. Shame really as he’d have done ok in the National League.

The HMRC tend to find football clubs quite interesting so I would imagine we’ve taken a cautious approach here.


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Like we took a cautious approach with the darts Herts?


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Like we took a cautious approach with the darts Herts?


Why let football training get in the way of a good game of darts?



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Having conversed with two local reporters about Ohman, they both reckon that once his furlough finishes, which could be as soon as next Saturday, he is free to return to GTFC for next season.

His furlough meant that he was unable to return even if Hurst wanted him back to shore up his defensive line. For all we know Hurst could think very highly of Ohman.

So officially, and legally, he is still a Town player.

Could he be an option for Hurst for next season?



1.  Ohman signed a 2.5 year contract in Jan 19, as per bbcsport at the time, so that expires soon. From what Hurst has said about Ohman he doesn't expect him back.

2. Could he be an option?  IF Hurst fancies him.  I reckon that there are very few players signed by Jolley or Hollowwords that Hurst would fancy re-signing for Gtfc.
Ohman has, bluntly, failed here. Was possibly expensive, comparatively.
Hurst probably more likely to re-sign Pearson, Toto or Gowling.  Maybe i'anson will come back  😀😉!!



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Both reporters I have spoken to both confirmed they were told that the club had put him on furlough until the end of the season.

If he had been released,  as someone else mentioned, then his squad number would have been reassigned.

Also if he had left the club like so many others throughout the season, he would have been removed from the GTFC website, but all through, he has shown as still a GTFC player.


But the key thing neither reporter has told you is that employers can bring their employees back from furlough whenever they like.
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According to Transfermarkt he is a free agent: https://www.transfermarkt.com/ludvig-ohman/profil/spieler/77841


A website updated by teenagers when they’re not playing Football Manager... must be right then.
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I’ve asked before how do we know this for sure?


Because I’ve been told this by somebody who I trust and who would know.

Obviously i won’t name them or they would never tell me anything else ever again.

And LO wasn’t the only furlough playing staff. He’s just the only one anyone would notice.
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So like everyone else on here I don’t really know what’s happening with Ludwig but I have been closely involved with furlough in the last 12 months and the following is true,

- You have to be able to prove to the HMRC that there is no work for the colleague, whether they ask or not is a different matter. They have recently been auditing claims.

- You can place someone on furlough if they’re stuck overseas due to non travel restrictions like the ones currently in place for India, not sure if Sweden falls into this category but I’d doubt it.

- You would be on very stony ground if you placed someone on furlough if you never intended to employ them again.

Personally I think it’s completely irrelevant as he won’t be coming back anyway. Shame really as he’d have done ok in the National League.

The HMRC tend to find football clubs quite interesting so I would imagine we’ve taken a cautious approach here.


They better take a look at Chesterfield then, part of their squad furloughed off but brought others players in in January.
Think Barrow did similar too.


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But the key thing neither reporter has told you is that employers can bring their employees back from furlough whenever they like.


Yeah if we fancy paying 100% of his wages and not just the part not covered by the scheme.

Legally there would be nothing to stop GTFC furloughing every player on 9th May when the season has finished and end it the day the squad return for pre-season.
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Why let football training get in the way of a good game of darts?



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They better take a look at Chesterfield then, part of their squad furloughed off but brought others players in in January.
Think Barrow did similar too.


Businesses can furlough whoever they like and for any reason.

Be hard to prove there was work for furloughed footballers when their clubs have managed to field full squads in all matches.
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Businesses can furlough whoever they like and for any reason.

Be hard to prove there was work for furloughed footballers when their clubs have managed to field full squads in all matches.


Except we've only named a full squad in 1 of our last 3 games...
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All the Government financial aid schemes have been abused by some people. There are just too many of them to be checked. Some shysters have got rich claiming bogus business grants many times over for instance. I'm covered by the SEISS scheme and had to declare that my business had been financially affected, which it had, but even if it hadn't, I could still have claimed it and doubt anyone would have checked, or will check in the future.

Many firms, and no doubt football clubs, have abused the furlough scheme.
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Except we've only named a full squad in 1 of our last 3 games...


But we've always named 5 or more subs and only use a max of 5.....



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Except we've only named a full squad in 1 of our last 3 games...


Wasn’t that due to limited space on team coach & taking a player who subsequently failed a fitness tests?
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Quoted from promotion plaice

I think the original poster meant bringing him back for next season.

Thought he'd left by mutual consent anyway.



That's the line that Holloway put out wasn't it

Believe it or not.... there's a pretty good chance it wasn't true
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That's the line that Holloway put out wasn't it

Believe it or not.... there's a pretty good chance it wasn't true


When Mohsni made Runaway look a complete twit, it became quite clear that a lot of what he said was just hot air.

Paul Hurst bats down the middle, has no interest in stupid sound bites and doesn't say things that could come back to bite him. Hurst, like Runaway did, wants to build something here. Whilst Runaways house was made of sticks, I have no doubt Hurst will use bricks.
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