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Donny boy
August 15, 2021, 5:25pm
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Can you lot have a whip round and have a word with your directors and entice Bogle back.

The guy is dog turd. Conference and maybe LG 2 is his ceiling level.

We have never witnessed an inept striker as this before
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Yes please? I will come and collect him.
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Can you lot have a whip round and have a word with your directors and entice Bogle back.

The guy is dog turd. Conference and maybe LG 2 is his ceiling level.

We have never witnessed an inept striker as this before


That's how we got him, sold him and made a nice wedge in the process only for owners to spunk it all!!..
He'd be welcome back here with open arms....but I think you're keeping him for a while yet tbh
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August 15, 2021, 5:32pm
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He offer nothing, hold up play rubbish, positioning anticipation, movement, awareness and goal attempts are shockingly bad.
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We'll happily take him on loan if you pay most of his wage, have a word with your directors  


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Quoted from Donny boy
Can you lot have a whip round and have a word with your directors and entice Bogle back.

The guy is dog turd. Conference and maybe LG 2 is his ceiling level.

We have never witnessed an inept striker as this before


Bogle is very much a confidence player. With a great set of fans behind him it reflects on his performance. That’s why he was so good for us.

So I doubt vey much that he’ll  play well for Donny.

UTM


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I jokingly remarked  'I don't know whether to spend it watching porn or watching football'
'you may as well spend it watching porn' she replied
That's understanding darling what makes you say that? I asked

She said 'Well you already know how to play football'  
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I think he’ll hang up his boots
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August 15, 2021, 5:56pm
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Get your paints and bed sheets out for the next home games and hang em high.

WE WANT BOGLE, DONNY DONT
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Came on as a sub & missed a penalty. Has done naff all at Wigan, Cardiff, Charlton, Doncaster etc. Methinks JSF will be well chuffed with his million on that deal.  
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The signs were always there that he wouldn't be able to keep up his form. He was too fragile mentally and the last month he was with us had gone off the boil. Obviously had some talent because he was pretty much unplayable for a few months, but when he was off form was a bit of liability and had a Roy of the Rovers mentality when we weren't on top in a game.

I think he's capable in L1, but needs a manager that fluffs him up and probably better in a team creating lots of chances than a mid to bottom half team. But his record since leaving us isn't going to get him in a team like that.
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Maybe Hurst is waiting for donny to send him out on loan to get his confidence back. I'd have him back in a jiffy We could help with his £7K a week wages - that's only an extra 350 a week on the gate
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He needs to feel loved, he'd score 70* in the National League for us.




* at least 20


JESUS AT THE CENTRE
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He’s always looked better in a good side…


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It obviously wouldn’t happen but with quick and smart players around him, he’d be a real handful in the NL. McAtee just behind a Bogle with confidence would be excellent.
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Quoted from Donny boy
Can you lot have a whip round and have a word with your directors and entice Bogle back.

The guy is dog turd. Conference and maybe LG 2 is his ceiling level.

We have never witnessed an inept striker as this before


I’m sure you must have. Or maybe you’re very young. You’ve been bottom-feeders for most of your history.


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Yeah I mean, one of Mark Weaver's lads must've been worse  


JESUS AT THE CENTRE
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Maybe Hurst is waiting for donny to send him out on loan to get his confidence back. I'd have him back in a jiffy We could help with his £7K a week wages - that's only an extra 350 a week on the gate


Sadly we don't play at home every week. So 700 on the gate, assuming a match every 2 weeks roughly.


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Oddly enough, I didn't rate Bogle enormously highly after our promotion from the Conference. However, that first half of the season back in the League, he was playing some fantastic stuff - much better than I thought he could play, in fact. I think the move up the leagues came too high, too soon and it was a really difficult situation to move into as Wigan were in a crap position when he signed. I don't blame him for making the move and taking the cash, but it's a case of what might have been had he stayed and learned when he was playing well in a more settled side and with the pressure off.
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Oddly enough, I didn't rate Bogle enormously highly after our promotion from the Conference. However, that first half of the season back in the League, he was playing some fantastic stuff - much better than I thought he could play, in fact.


It's worth calling this out, as history can rewrite itself in a more romantic fashion. Bogle signed in the summer of 2015, to much fanfare, started really well and then quickly went off the ball, often looking agitated and frustrated with his teammates and himself. He scored his 10th of the season away at Torquay in mid October, but would only score one more goal between then and that second half turnaround at Aldershot in April which we won 4-3 and in which he was instrumental. To put that into context, Podge scored 19 goals in that same period. Nineteen!

During that time he spent a lot of time either on the subs bench or being subbed early in games, and looked some way off the Omar Bogle we all fondly remember. He was out of form, apparently unhappy and low on confidence. It's easy to forget that throughout that period non-scoring Pat Hoban was routinely preferred over him in the starting 11.

I barely remember the home leg of the first leg of the play-offs against Braintree, other than we were shìte, they scored a penalty and I think someone did a poo on Fenty's car bonnet. The second leg is more vivid, but that header he scored from that deep, Marcus Marshall free-kick was absolutely massive. And then those two goals at Wembley - fùcking hell, I was already so píssed I immediately couldn't remember how they'd even gone in, but how they came in such quick succession was just so special, absolute carnage.

It's then easy to forget that he was left on the bench for Scott Vernon for the first few games of our first season back in League Two. It wasn't until he scored a consolation goal at Colchester on a Tuesday night that he really began to kick on. After his hat trick against Stevenage in that 5-2 win at BP I think I felt as good as I've felt about Town's prospects in the past 20 years, or 15 at least. Such a shame things went down the pan as they did.

He was incredible in those 20 or so games that season, absolutely unplayable. That's what he's capable of in my opinion, but it does seem he needs to be in the right place mentally. He seems to have lost his mojo. A return to his spiritual home might be just the ticket...








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Yeah I mean, one of Mark Weaver's lads must've been worse  


Mildly interesting that when Donny were relegated in 98, whilst we were having the best of times, the bottom five of the basement division looked like this:

Swansea
Cardiff
Hull
Brighton
Doncaster

Genuine question, how did we fúck it up so badly from there?


A smooth sea never made a skillful mariner.
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Mildly interesting that when Donny were relegated in 98, whilst we were having the best of times, the bottom five of the basement division looked like this:

Swansea
Cardiff
Hull
Brighton
Doncaster

Genuine question, how did we fúck it up so badly from there?


excrement chairman, excrement directors, excrement managers and excrement players, there seems to be a recurring theme going on there but I'm buggered if I can think what it is.
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Mildly interesting that when Donny were relegated in 98, whilst we were having the best of times, the bottom five of the basement division looked like this:

Swansea
Cardiff
Hull
Brighton
Doncaster

Genuine question, how did we fúck it up so badly from there?

In the style of Noche     F F F F F****



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Mildly interesting that when Donny were relegated in 98, whilst we were having the best of times, the bottom five of the basement division looked like this:

Swansea
Cardiff
Hull
Brighton
Doncaster

Genuine question, how did we fúck it up so badly from there?


Surely, it was ITV Digital - we were too successful; if we hadn't been so high up the pyramid then we wouldn't have lost so much income when they went bust. The previous owner put that right for us with great skill.

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Mildly interesting that when Donny were relegated in 98, whilst we were having the best of times, the bottom five of the basement division looked like this:

Swansea
Cardiff
Hull
Brighton
Doncaster




And what then happened to those clubs?

Massive investment........and we all know the direction that all 5 clubs went soon after said investment.

On the up!

Maybe we can emulate any one of them in the next few seasons
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Mildly interesting that when Donny were relegated in 98, whilst we were having the best of times, the bottom five of the basement division looked like this:

Swansea
Cardiff
Hull
Brighton
Doncaster

Genuine question, how did we fúck it up so badly from there?


I’m not sure how relevant this is but all of the above have moved to new stadiums.


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Most of those stadia were built at the behest or with the help of the local council. Compare and contrast.

Quite a lot of money sloshing around the towns/cities where those clubs reside as well, of course, but notable that 4 of them were also conceived as stadia for both the local football and rugby teams and 3 of them still host both codes.

All were possible due to the local council coughing up substantial packets of land for redevelopment. We don't perhaps have comparable land available and our transport links around town are crummy in comparison to those others as well.
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Surely, it was ITV Digital - we were too successful; if we hadn't been so high up the pyramid then we wouldn't have lost so much income when they went bust. The previous owner put that right for us with great skill.



Just think, if he’d been in power in 1990, he would have made sure we weren’t caught up in the whole all-seater stadium thing too.


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The signs were always there that he wouldn't be able to keep up his form. He was too fragile mentally and the last month he was with us had gone off the boil. Obviously had some talent because he was pretty much unplayable for a few months, but when he was off form was a bit of liability and had a Roy of the Rovers mentality when we weren't on top in a game.

I think he's capable in L1, but needs a manager that fluffs him up and probably better in a team creating lots of chances than a mid to bottom half team. But his record since leaving us isn't going to get him in a team like that.


It's easy to get trapped in the romanticism of Bogle and only remember things like the Wembley goals or the Stevenage win. The fact is that he was often more of a hinderance than a help in games that were tough as he'd start trying to do everything himself or some of his moves didn't come off so he sulked. Just as many games when I thought he was amazing as ones where I found him annoying because he was stomping his feet and sulking. Obviously lots of high hopes for him because Wigan paid good money but he never lived up to it anywhere. Probably moved up levels too far, too soon and never had a chance to really bed in and find form in L2 as a handful of good games got him a contract much higher up where he never settled in to the level of football. He'd spent his career beforehand apart from one season in L2 as a non-league star.  
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Been trash everywhere he’s gone since here. Surprised he keeps getting league 1 clubs
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How well did Bogle play tonight Donny boy?  

What's that... played 3 lost 3.


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I would have him back here in a flash. It's disappointing to see him struggle but like stated above he is a confidence player, if the fans are on his back he will crumble and you won't get an inch out of him. I really hoped it would work out for him at Donny....or anywhere really, as much as I'd like to see him back at Town it's very unrealistic he will be back here anytime soon.


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The Bogle situation is like many others that have gone before, not just for us. How many players have not found their feet (sic) at a higher level and not been able to produce the form that they’ve previously had. We all know that, especially for a striker, confidence is a key factor and that a good player doesn’t become sh1t overnight. The numerous moves that he has had, has probably damaged his game as well as not being able to settle into a rhythm with a mangers tactics.

Would playing for hurst and in front of a set of supporters that have previously idolised him help? Who knows, but I’d think it unlikely that 1) he would want to come and 2) we could afford him.

If he wants to play at championship or higher, his career needs a mammoth set of jump leads to kick start it


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He won't come here as we can't afford him and given the right club, right manager and a run of games he's better than our level.

The move to Wigan was the wrong one as he was never going to go there and catch fire from the start and score the goals that would have saved them from relegation.

Looking at what the lad has done since and where he's been I think if I where him I'd probably be sacking my agent and replacing one who's find him a proper move to a proper club.

It won't happen but I'm 110% sure Hurst could get a tune out of him.    


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It's like anyone in life, your potential has a ceiling.
Bogle has moved more times than Beyonce's ar£e and he's done zilch, the facts are hard but that's the situation.
I once put this before - Stoner once said about Rossi that "his ambition outweighs his ability" and, to me, that sums up Bogle.
Great NL player, v.good Lg 2 striker but that's it, that's his natural level.
Fair play to him getting the wages he's managed to command and unlike Herts, if I were him be kissing my agent every night for getting the deals he's pulled off
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Mildly interesting that when Donny were relegated in 98, whilst we were having the best of times, the bottom five of the basement division looked like this:

Swansea
Cardiff
Hull
Brighton
Doncaster

Genuine question, how did we fúck it up so badly from there?


All invested in a new stadium.
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All invested in a new stadium.


So did we. We just never got the fúcker.


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It blows my mind that people wouldn't want him back here....

His 'apparent' record for us was 35 goals in 67 games... better than a goal every other game
And that includes his streak of not scoring as Poojah mentions

His record hasn't been incredible since, but he's still scored goals.
5 in 13 for Portsmouth in league 1 - 2 leagues above us (he only started 6 of them 13 games)

He finished top scorer in the season he left - He left in January.
19 goals in 27 games, in the league above we currently find ourselves in!!!

Since he left, our top scorers have been
JJ Hooper - 7
Wes Thomas - 11 (i would take him these days!)
Hanson - 9
The shop - 4

I don't think we would get him, and think he would be great for a league 2 team that's aiming for play-offs.

But he would be the perfect signing IMO
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Personally.. I wouldn’t touch him with a barge pole..not sure financially we could get him back, and questionable work rate,attitude etc (just my opinion) - But perfectly understand those who feel he’s be a good acquisition.

All about opinions innit?  


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Quoted from Northbank Mariner
It's like anyone in life, your potential has a ceiling.
Bogle has moved more times than Beyonce's ar£e and he's done zilch, the facts are hard but that's the situation.
I once put this before - Stoner once said about Rossi that "his ambition outweighs his ability" and, to me, that sums up Bogle.
Great NL player, v.good Lg 2 striker but that's it, that's his natural level.
Fair play to him getting the wages he's managed to command and unlike Herts, if I were him be kissing my agent every night for getting the deals he's pulled off


Fair point!


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Great NL player, v.good Lg 2 striker but that's it, that's his natural level.


From what we saw it was great League 2 striker, good NL one.


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When Bogle was here last he wasn't earning life changing money but since leaving he's almost certainly made for life now. When you get to that point financially, motivations can change completely.
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Poojah and Humbercod highlighted above teams that have done very well.  Having invested in new stadiums.  Although I am not sure which came first - success or a new stadium.

I suspect that everything started with good owners who brought new money in and then appointed good managers.  Long term success over time.

We have at least started the first part of this success cycle.  

There is another very significant contrast and success story.  The last season Wrexham were in in the EFL they played league games against Brentford.  Whatever happened to Brentford?  And yes, they also have a new stadium.  And are regarded as one of the best run clubs in the country.

Wrexham were unfortunate not to get back into the EFL a few years ago with automatic promotion after getting 98 or 99 points.  
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Poojah and Humbercod highlighted above teams that have done very well.  Having invested in new stadiums.  Although I am not sure which came first - success or a new stadium.

I suspect that everything started with good owners who brought new money in and then appointed good managers.  Long term success over time.

We have at least started the first part of this success cycle.  

There is another very significant contrast and success story.  The last season Wrexham were in in the EFL they played league games against Brentford.  Whatever happened to Brentford?  And yes, they also have a new stadium.  And are regarded as one of the best run clubs in the country.

Wrexham were unfortunate not to get back into the EFL a few years ago with automatic promotion after getting 98 or 99 points.  


If that happened to us, I bet there would be some people on here calling for Hurst to leave.
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Don't forget that Brentford have an extremely wealthy owner who has been pumping money in for some years to get the new ground and win promotion. They'll cash in now they got into the Premier League (providing they don't overspend) but it has  reputedly taken an investment of £100 million to get there which isn't exactly chicken feed.
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Don't forget that Brentford have an extremely wealthy owner who has been pumping money in for some years to get the new ground and win promotion. They'll cash in now they got into the Premier League (providing they don't overspend) but it has  reputedly taken an investment of £100 million to get there which isn't exactly chicken feed.


They also saved £2m a year by scrapping their academy a few years ago.


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It's like anyone in life, your potential has a ceiling.
Bogle has moved more times than Beyonce's ar£e and he's done zilch, the facts are hard but that's the situation.
I once put this before - Stoner once said about Rossi that "his ambition outweighs his ability" and, to me, that sums up Bogle.
Great NL player, v.good Lg 2 striker but that's it, that's his natural level.
Fair play to him getting the wages he's managed to command and unlike Herts, if I were him be kissing my agent every night for getting the deals he's pulled off


That's why you dont have an agent, they demand a blow job as a minimum ........





So I have heard  😬


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That's why you dont have an agent, they demand a blow job as a minimum ........





So I have heard  😬


But some coaches pull you off at half time


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But some coaches pull you off at half time


I only got half an orange in my day...


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Quoted from moosey_club


That's why you dont have an agent, they demand a blow job as a minimum ........





So I have heard  😬


Who said I haven't got an agent??🤔🤭
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What you waiting for, come and get him, Omar has been told to think of his future as it aint here.
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What you waiting for, come and get him, Omar has been told to think of his future as it aint here.


Look if it were up to me i'd come pick him up myself. The question is, would he drop to NL and accept a paycut? The answer is (unfortunately) probably not. I hope with all my heart we are in for him and the stars align. But my head tells me that its never going to happen. If he's in the ground for your next home game, sing 'Maaaaariners'  


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Don't forget that Brentford have an extremely wealthy owner who has been pumping money in for some years to get the new ground and win promotion. They'll cash in now they got into the Premier League (providing they don't overspend) but it has  reputedly taken an investment of £100 million to get there which isn't exactly chicken feed.


Also been very good in the transfer market - listed below are Brentford's top 10 transfers

CF Ollie Watkins sold to Aston Villa 20/21 for £30.6m  bought from Exeter 17/18 for £6.5m profit £24.1m
LW Said Benrahma sold to West Ham 20/21 for £20.79m + £3.96m loan fee bought from OGC Nice 18/19 for £1.53m profit £23.22m
CF Neal Maupay sold to Brighton 19/20 for £20m bought from Saint Etienne 17/18 for £1.8m profit £18.2m
CD Chris Mepham sold to Bournemouth 18/19 for £12.24m Brentford U18 14/15 profit £12.24m
CD Ezri Konsa sold to Aston Villa 19/20 for £11.97m bought from Charlton 18/19 for £2.57m profit £9.4m
CF Andre Gray sold to Burnley 15/16 for £11.16m bought from Luton 14/15 for £558th profit £10.602m
CF Scott Hogan sold to Aston Villa 16/17 for £9.45m from Rochdale 14/15 for £855th profit £8.595m
DM Ryan Woods sold to Stoke 18/19 for £6.53 bought from Shrewsbury 15/16 for £1.22m profit £5.31m
RW Jota Peleterio sold to Birmingham 17/18 for £5.85m bought from Celta de Vigo for £1.35 million profit £4.5m
DM Nico Yennaris sold to BJ Guoan 18/19 for £4.95m bought from Arsenal 13/14 for £90th profit £4.05m

Profit form the above £120.217m

With the right business model = Premiership football and a new stadium

With the wrong business model = National league and the oldest staduim


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That’s phenomenal business


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Quoted from KingstonMariner
That’s phenomenal business


To be honest I quite liked it when we paid actual money for Adi Yusuff, Chris Clements, Jamey Osborne, Akwasi Asante and Sam Jones and then apparently couldn’t get rid of them for free fast enough. There’s so much wrong with that last sentence I don’t even know where to begin.


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Also been very good in the transfer market - listed below are Brentford's top 10 transfers

CF Ollie Watkins sold to Aston Villa 20/21 for £30.6m  bought from Exeter 17/18 for £6.5m profit £24.1m
LW Said Benrahma sold to West Ham 20/21 for £20.79m + £3.96m loan fee bought from OGC Nice 18/19 for £1.53m profit £23.22m
CF Neal Maupay sold to Brighton 19/20 for £20m bought from Saint Etienne 17/18 for £1.8m profit £18.2m
CD Chris Mepham sold to Bournemouth 18/19 for £12.24m Brentford U18 14/15 profit £12.24m
CD Ezri Konsa sold to Aston Villa 19/20 for £11.97m bought from Charlton 18/19 for £2.57m profit £9.4m
CF Andre Gray sold to Burnley 15/16 for £11.16m bought from Luton 14/15 for £558th profit £10.602m
CF Scott Hogan sold to Aston Villa 16/17 for £9.45m from Rochdale 14/15 for £855th profit £8.595m
DM Ryan Woods sold to Stoke 18/19 for £6.53 bought from Shrewsbury 15/16 for £1.22m profit £5.31m
RW Jota Peleterio sold to Birmingham 17/18 for £5.85m bought from Celta de Vigo for £1.35 million profit £4.5m
DM Nico Yennaris sold to BJ Guoan 18/19 for £4.95m bought from Arsenal 13/14 for £90th profit £4.05m

Profit form the above £120.217m

With the right business model = Premiership football and a new stadium

With the wrong business model = National league and the oldest staduim




I'm assuming there are some failures too but with £120m of profit, you can afford a few failures I guess.
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I'm assuming there are some failures too but with £120m of profit, you can afford a few failures I guess.


I was thinking that, then thought a bit more. That’s just the top ten and number 10 was a £4m profit, so there’s quite a way to go before they ‘only’ break even.


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To be honest I quite liked it when we paid actual money for Adi Yusuff, Chris Clements, Jamey Osborne, Akwasi Asante and Sam Jones and then apparently couldn’t get rid of them for free fast enough. There’s so much wrong with that last sentence I don’t even know where to begin.


Agree. Bonkers wasn’t it. Jones and Osborne had talent. Clements could do a job. Didn’t see the other two much.


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Agree. Bonkers wasn’t it. Jones and Osborne had talent. Clements could do a job. Didn’t see the other two much.


Not quite sure what happened to Sam Jones once he left us - his Wiki page doesn't make great reading...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Jones_(footballer,_born_1991)

Not the first and probably not the last talented player to fall off the face of the footballing earth after leaving BP. The likes of Scott Neilson and Dominic Vose spring to mind in recent memory, but I'm sure there are plenty of others.


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Being binned by a basket-case club (as we were in the Fenty era) might be the thing that kills your motivation to be a footballer.


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Of course, you have to have the £500k in the first place to invest to accumulate, taking the lowest value acquisition in that Brentford list, apart from the youth lad. London Irish are sharing the stadium as well which helps with running costs. Some of those overseas players will have been attracted by going to London. We had bigger crowds than Brentford, Fulham, Millwall and Charlton in 1980 but football is much more South East orientated now - the big northern clubs outside of Manchester and Liverpool struggle to compete - Sunderland, Stoke, Middlesborough, Wednesday...Burnley have done well to hang in there but are an exception now. Even at the lower end we've got wanky clubs like Crawley and Stevenage with hardly any fans who can attract better players than us.

Peterborough is more the model for us than Brentford.
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I was thinking that, then thought a bit more. That’s just the top ten and number 10 was a £4m profit, so there’s quite a way to go before they ‘only’ break even.


Is it Brentford that operate a statistical model to recruitment? Maybe Debbie could add Brentford to her list of clubs to visit.
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Is it Brentford that operate a statistical model to recruitment? Maybe Debbie could add Brentford to her list of clubs to visit.


I’m sure it was.


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Of course, you have to have the £500k in the first place to invest to accumulate, taking the lowest value acquisition in that Brentford list, apart from the youth lad. London Irish are sharing the stadium as well which helps with running costs. Some of those overseas players will have been attracted by going to London. We had bigger crowds than Brentford, Fulham, Millwall and Charlton in 1980 but football is much more South East orientated now - the big northern clubs outside of Manchester and Liverpool struggle to compete - Sunderland, Stoke, Middlesborough, Wednesday...Burnley have done well to hang in there but are an exception now. Even at the lower end we've got wanky clubs like Crawley and Stevenage with hardly any fans who can attract better players than us.

Peterborough is more the model for us than Brentford.


Sadly even Peterborough are in a better position as a town, economically and geographically. It grew by 52,000 in the 30 years to 2011 and is estimated to have grown a further 19,000 in the last 10 years!

But there are good examples to learn from all over the country.


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To be honest I quite liked it when we paid actual money for Adi Yusuff, Chris Clements, Jamey Osborne, Akwasi Asante and Sam Jones and then apparently couldn’t get rid of them for free fast enough. There’s so much wrong with that last sentence I don’t even know where to begin.


The strange thing about this is.

Clements recently won the League 2 title
Osborne & Jones would walk into our team - (The Jones that played for us, as it's not gone well since)
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Aye, Jones got a move to a promotion chasing League 1 club. God (a friend of Sam's) knows what happened after that.


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I do wonder what happend between Fenty and Asante, the guys been pretty prolific at around this level since leaving us.
The club was a madhouse so no doubt he said something not too nice to the powers that be.
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Asante, or someone very close to him, used to post regularly on here with all the news. Think the main problem was injury, then couldn’t get into the team. Can’t remember the username though, ghost something, or something along those lines.
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Osborne wanted to leave and return to Solihull.  
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A certain someone wanted the wage bill slashing and Slade duly obliged.

I remember referring to it at the time as the night of the long knives, which resulted in me getting a PM from that certain someone putting me straight.

Stupid me didn't have my facts right.  
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Shows how full of shite fenty was. He could have been a good goal scorer for us. Now at chesterfield I believe who has a good forward line.
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Wasn't it Chris Clements girlfriend/wife who was posting on here at one point, basically slating the club for forcing him out?
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Quoted from ginnywings
A certain someone wanted the wage bill slashing and Slade duly obliged.

I remember referring to it at the time as the night of the long knives, which resulted in me getting a PM from that certain someone putting me straight.

Stupid me didn't have my facts right.  


I remember it as the GYFR PM period - got a few myself!
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