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Ask not what this new appointment will be doing for the future of the club. Instead, ask what has occurred post takeover, regarding complaints and disciplinary action, that has subsequently led to the need of this appointment.
Before everyone jumps in feet first, suggesting that I’m making unsubstantiated accusations, I am not. This is stuff that is already out there as a result of the complainant themselves telling people. And it strikes me, that there is no coincidence that one of the recently advertised job vacancies, is in a department that this person talking about their complaint worked in.
Wonder if this new HR Advisor role is permanent? As a business, are is GTFC really that big that it requires a full time HR advisor? Or, would it be more sensible to adopt an outsourced approach to HR and/or HR Legal, as and when it os required?
They are getting rid of the dross and moving the club forward Fil . Even you can see that ? You can see it can't you ? A man of your means must be able too |
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I like the way it says that when you apply you should "state your salary expectation"
I wonder if they'll go for the cheapest option rather than the most qualified person to do the job?
under Fenty it would definitely be option A, with 1878 I'm pretty confident they will go for Option B |
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I like the way it says that when you apply you should "state your salary expectation"
I wonder if they'll go for the cheapest option rather than the most qualified person to do the job?
Why? Has Fenty taken over again? |
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No, it never won you 3 points or 1 even.
But it's not going to lose you points, hence not a negative, but a positive.
Just like the training facilities, and the glass "fence" it's going in the general direction of "better".
I suspect Forza was taking the pish out of people who says things like “when did running the club properly get you three points on a Saturday “. |
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It's disappointing and not exactly progressive to require applicants to state their salary expectations. I would have expected a modern, forward facing 'B-Corp' candidate business to be transparent over salaries and pay grades.
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It's disappointing and not exactly progressive to require applicants to state their salary expectations. I would have expected a modern, forward facing 'B-Corp' candidate business to be transparent over salaries and pay grades.
It’s a fair point Chris. Maybe they’re not entirely sure what the benchmark should be for this. It looks to be a mixture between day-to-day activity and more senior stuff, so not easy to pitch. Depends pretty much on who is available. |
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It's disappointing and not exactly progressive to require applicants to state their salary expectations. I would have expected a modern, forward facing 'B-Corp' candidate business to be transparent over salaries and pay grades.
Whilst I agree, this is being seen more and more. A close friend just applied for a pretty senior role in a large corporation he was able to state his salary. Similarly, my brother in law did the same. I guess with these sort of roles it’s hard to pitch so why not ask what people think they’re worth. |
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Whilst I agree, this is being seen more and more. A close friend just applied for a pretty senior role in a large corporation he was able to state his salary. Similarly, my brother in law did the same.
I guess with these sort of roles it’s hard to pitch so why not ask what people think they’re worth.
I'm not a high flier but I'm not comfortable with this kind of approach. They are obviously going to use what you say against you to justify not hiring you because your demands are too much compared to the cheaper but similar performing candidate. |
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I'm not a high flier but I'm not comfortable with this kind of approach. They are obviously going to use what you say against you to justify not hiring you because your demands are too much compared to the cheaper but similar performing candidate.
I don’t see it that way. They might judge what extra they would get with the ‘more expensive’ candidate and debate whether the extra money is worth it, and if they can afford it. No one will have the perfect profile of knowledge, experience, character, do there’ll be a trade-off of some sort. Ironically it is possible to underprice yourself - too low a salary demand might make you look under-qualified. I’ve been told that before, directly with one application. I’ve also seen it stated in adverts that candidates earning less than £x are unlikely to have suitable level of experience/expertise. Not having a declared salary band for the job is usual on the playing/team manager side of football isn’t it? |
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I'm not a high flier but I'm not comfortable with this kind of approach. They are obviously going to use what you say against you to justify not hiring you because your demands are too much compared to the cheaper but similar performing candidate.
It's a negotiation at the end of the day, if they want to offer it to someone else for a lower salary when you believe you are worth more then intercourse them, go find an employer that will pay you what you believe you are worth. Besides they probably don't say what they are wanting to pay because they know it will be pulled apart and over-analysed on a 5 page thread on some internet forum just like every other job vacancy recently. Can't wait for the thread about the advert when they need to recruit a new tea lady. I'm sure it will be riveting. |
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