Scunts announce new home shirt.

Lol

New away shirt also announced:

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Am I being thick ? I don’t get the joke

I don't get it either d

I think he's saying Scunthorpe fans will give up and support Leeds...could be wrong though...not exactly obvious.

Quoted from supertown

Am I being thick ? I don’t get the joke

I’m guessing it infers they’ll start supporting Leeds  now !!

A few years ago we drew Leeds in the FA cup, whilst driving past Scunthorpe on the way to elland road, van loads of Leeds "fans" came out of Scunthorpe onto the m180 via the m181. Only to receive the obvious hand gestures from us. It's been mentioned a lot in the past in ding dong battles regarding attendances between us and scunny.

Quoted from Phil the cod

A few years ago we drew Leeds in the FA cup, whilst driving past Scunthorpe on the way to elland road, van loads of Leeds "fans" came out of Scunthorpe onto the m180 via the m181. Only to receive the obvious hand gestures from us. It's been mentioned a lot in the past in ding dong battles regarding attendances between us and scunny.

Isn't there also a large contingent of Leeds fans locally?

Huge number of Leeds fans locally, wasn’t the best gag…

Kevin Kilmore chose us over Leeds  

Allegedly

Quoted from Phil the cod

A few years ago we drew Leeds in the FA cup

Admirable stretching of the phrase "A few years ago" there!

Quoted from Son of Cod

Admirable stretching of the phrase "A few years ago" there!

Indeed. For all the grief the GTFC social media output has been getting of late, I did not thank them for reminding me that our Auto Windscreens victory at Wembley was 24 years ago, the other day.

Where has that time gone?

Quoted from Poojah

Indeed. For all the grief the GTFC social media output has been getting of late, I did not thank them for reminding me that our Auto Windscreens victory at Wembley was 24 years ago, the other day.

Where has that time gone?

Fenty knows!

Quoted from aldi_01

Huge number of Leeds fans locally, wasn’t the best gag…

I don't doubt there are large numbers of Leeds fans in the Grimsby area today but when I was at school and working locally in the 80s, 90s and early noughties, I could count the number of Leeds fans I'd met on one hand, and they were all 20+ years older than me. I know there was a Leeds United supporters Grimsby branch back then though.

The vast majority of top flight allegiances back then were obviously Man Utd and Liverpool (no doubt passed down by family) but I definitely knew more Spurs fans than Leeds fans, which is odd, given our proximity to Leeds. I always wondered if having a Yorkshire team as your top flight club didn't lend itself well to being a Town fan, first and foremost.

There were also no Wednesday fans either, (that I knew of any how) despite being a decent club in the 90s, nor Forest fans that I knew of.

Despite  not looking far away on the map, it's a real schlep from Gy to Manchester/Liverpool - making every "home game" seem like an away day.

Quoted from Withnail

I know there was a Leeds United supporters Grimsby branch back then though.

Ahhh yes the "Grimsby Whites", I think they used to take a minibus full to Leeds home games. Not sure if they are still active or not.

Quoted from Withnail

I don't doubt there are large numbers of Leeds fans in the Grimsby area today but when I was at school and working locally in the 80s, 90s and early noughties, I could count the number of Leeds fans I'd met on one hand, and they were all 20+ years older than me. I know there was a Leeds United supporters Grimsby branch back then though.

The vast majority of top flight allegiances back then were obviously Man Utd and Liverpool (no doubt passed down by family) but I definitely knew more Spurs fans than Leeds fans, which is odd, given our proximity to Leeds. I always wondered if having a Yorkshire team as your top flight club didn't lend itself well to being a Town fan, first and foremost.

There were also no Wednesday fans either, (that I knew of any how) despite being a decent club in the 90s, nor Forest fans that I knew of in the Gy area in the 90s.

Despite  not looking far away on the map, it's a real schlep from Gy to Manchester/Liverpool.

I’ve always thought that despite the obvious challenges posed by the location of the town, we have a fairly unique advantage in not having a top flight club within an hour’s journey and only one within two hours.

At our level and above there must only be the likes of Plymouth, Exeter and Torquay who can say that. Possibly Carlisle, too.

I really do think this club has way more potential than it has exhibited for some considerable time.

Weight Watchers might do a shirt deal with Scunny with their logo

LOSE A LOT

I thought the correct name for the Elland Road club was "Dirty Leeds"?

Quoted from Poojah

I’ve always thought that despite the obvious challenges posed by the location of the town, we have a fairly unique advantage in not having a top flight club within an hour’s journey and only one within two hours.

At our level and above there must only be the likes of Plymouth, Exeter and Torquay who can say that. Possibly Carlisle, too.

I really do think this club has way more potential than it has exhibited for some considerable time.

If you look at the clubs currently in league 1, I would say we have as much potential as 15 of those; some a bit more some a bit less.

We didn't get very good gates when we were last at those levels, but football has moved on a lot since then, and I would expect bigger attendances if we were to reach those dizzy heights again. If we are getting between 5-7000 fans for non-league football you have to think we could turn that into 10,000 in league 1 if the capacity allows.

Getting on a roll is the key and the nice thing is with the current owners, the benefits of success are unlikely to be squandered.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

If you look at the clubs currently in league 1, I would say we have as much potential as 15 of those; some a bit more some a bit less.

We didn't get very good gates when we were last at those levels, but football has moved on a lot since then, and I would expect bigger attendances if we were to reach those dizzy heights again. If we are getting between 5-7000 fans for non-league football you have to think we could turn that into 10,000 in league 1 if the capacity allows.

Getting on a roll is the key and the nice thing is with the current owners, the benefits of success are unlikely to be squandered.

Depends on how well we were doing. As has been proved many times in the past, it's not the level you are playing at that brings in the crowds it's how successful the team is doing! (Or what's at stake in a particular game)

Quoted from Les Brechin

Depends on how well we were doing. As has been proved many times in the past, it's not the level you are playing at that brings in the crowds it's how successful the team is doing! (Or what's at stake in a particular game)

The key is to get those season ticket sales up. We have never been able to do this in the past but the past is the past. Once we create the demand and people see that a season ticket is the way forward, those attendances would be more stable - very similar to Lincoln I suppose.

Of course your argument is correct  - I have seen 23,000 home fans in the ground in tier 4 against Exeter, and less than 5000 in the Championship against Wolves!

It will always be the case that if we are doing really well in whatever division the crowds rise, but we already seem to be getting a lot of younger fans on board; we have owners who will hopefully fully develop our potential and football is so high profile I think we might do better than some people think.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

The key is to get those season ticket sales up. We have never been able to do this in the past but the past is the past. Once we create the demand and people see that a season ticket is the way forward, those attendances would be more stable - very similar to Lincoln I suppose.

Of course your argument is correct  - I have seen 23,000 home fans in the ground in tier 4 against Exeter, and less than 5000 in the Championship against Wolves!

It will always be the case that if we are doing really well in whatever division the crowds rise, but we already seem to be getting a lot of younger fans on board; we have owners who will hopefully fully develop our potential and football is so high profile I think we might do better than some people think.

Plenty of teams are already selling season tickets for next season. Wrexham have sold about 3500 already and that's with no guarantee of what division they'll be in.

Quoted from Les Brechin

Plenty of teams are already selling season tickets for next season. Wrexham have sold about 3500 already and that's with no guarantee of what division they'll be in.

Christ, even Scunny have got theirs on sale. We’ve always been slower than most on that front; certainly an area we can improve upon.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

If you look at the clubs currently in league 1, I would say we have as much potential as 15 of those; some a bit more some a bit less.

We didn't get very good gates when we were last at those levels, but football has moved on a lot since then, and I would expect bigger attendances if we were to reach those dizzy heights again. If we are getting between 5-7000 fans for non-league football you have to think we could turn that into 10,000 in league 1 if the capacity allows.

Getting on a roll is the key and the nice thing is with the current owners, the benefits of success are unlikely to be squandered.

And this is the crux of this argument for me.  We're forever going back to the fact we drew gates that would dip under 4,000 back in the modern glory days under Buckley in the second tier.  That quite literally was yonks ago.  The world has moved on since then and just because we struggled to get people through the gate then, shouldn't mean the same now.  We were playing good sides, often outplaying them with stylish football at a high level.  Fast forward 20-25 years and we're playing excrement sides, in a ground that has got worse over time, a style of football that is no way near as entertaining with far less successful output.  Yet we're pulling equal, if not bigger, gates.  

If we want to truly progress as a football club we have to think bigger than what we were/are.  A mindset that we don't need a big capacity is suffocating us.   We're in the fifth tier of the football pyramid, sitting just in the upper third of the table, charging £20 to watch pretty average football in an eyesore of a ground yet on Bank Holiday Monday the club were trying to resell tickets of people who can't go.  That should tell us everything.  Not the gate we got against Watford on a wet Tuesday night in 1993.

Quoted from Les Brechin

Depends on how well we were doing. As has been proved many times in the past, it's not the level you are playing at that brings in the crowds it's how successful the team is doing! (Or what's at stake in a particular game)

Has anyone ever known Ticket Touts operate outside of Blundel Park?

Quoted from diehardmariner

And this is the crux of this argument for me.  We're forever going back to the fact we drew gates that would dip under 4,000 back in the modern glory days under Buckley in the second tier.  That quite literally was yonks ago.  The world has moved on since then and just because we struggled to get people through the gate then, shouldn't mean the same now.  We were playing good sides, often outplaying them with stylish football at a high level.  Fast forward 20-25 years and we're playing excrement sides, in a ground that has got worse over time, a style of football that is no way near as entertaining with far less successful output.  Yet we're pulling equal, if not bigger, gates.  

If we want to truly progress as a football club we have to think bigger than what we were/are.  A mindset that we don't need a big capacity is suffocating us.   We're in the fifth tier of the football pyramid, sitting just in the upper third of the table, charging £20 to watch pretty average football in an eyesore of a ground yet on Bank Holiday Monday the club were trying to resell tickets of people who can't go.  That should tell us everything.  Not the gate we got against Watford on a wet Tuesday night in 1993.

Our average gate so far this season is about 400 higher than in 97/98, which for a sizeable majority of living Town fans was comfortably our best season in memory in terms of both playing style and outcomes.

If we’re talking home support only, you’d have to go back at least as far as 98/99 or more likely 91/92 (which also followed not one but two promotion seasons) to find Town more well supported. Considering where we are and the season we had last season, it’s absolutely remarkable really.

There’s a potential fan base to be tapped into here; it just takes a big of vision and imagination - two things we’ve sorely lacked for too long until recently.

Quoted from diehardmariner

And this is the crux of this argument for me.  We're forever going back to the fact we drew gates that would dip under 4,000 back in the modern glory days under Buckley in the second tier.  That quite literally was yonks ago.  The world has moved on since then and just because we struggled to get people through the gate then, shouldn't mean the same now.  We were playing good sides, often outplaying them with stylish football at a high level.  Fast forward 20-25 years and we're playing excrement sides, in a ground that has got worse over time, a style of football that is no way near as entertaining with far less successful output.  Yet we're pulling equal, if not bigger, gates.  

If we want to truly progress as a football club we have to think bigger than what we were/are.  A mindset that we don't need a big capacity is suffocating us.   We're in the fifth tier of the football pyramid, sitting just in the upper third of the table, charging £20 to watch pretty average football in an eyesore of a ground yet on Bank Holiday Monday the club were trying to resell tickets of people who can't go.  That should tell us everything.  Not the gate we got against Watford on a wet Tuesday night in 1993.

I was looking back at an old programme the other day and as you say times have changed with regards to attendances..  we were away at Chelsea ( Dvision 2 / 1981 ) and the gate was around the 11000 mark

When you think how many we took there a few years back for the League Cup game there really is no comparison between historic gates and how many turn up to games nowadays

Gates back in the early-to-mid 90s were so much smaller than they are now for the vast majority of clubs. Someone shared an old newspaper clipping on social media recently which showed sub-2,000 attendances in both Leagues 1 & 2 at places like Wigan, and there were sub-4,000 at places like Rotherham. Reading didn't pull in much more than that, same goes for Brentford.

Quoted from RichMariner

Gates back in the early-to-mid 90s were so much smaller than they are now for the vast majority of clubs. Someone shared an old newspaper clipping on social media recently which showed sub-2,000 attendances in both Leagues 1 & 2 at places like Wigan, and there were sub-4,000 at places like Rotherham. Reading didn't pull in much more than that, same goes for Brentford.

Early 90s saw a massive rise in ticket prices. Seem to remember it went from £6 to stand in the Pontoon to £12 to sit within a few years. No surprise attendances took a big hit

Quoted from Poojah

Christ, even Scunny have got theirs on sale. We’ve always been slower than most on that front; certainly an area we can improve upon.

They do know what division they will be in next season