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Get in!.. we've actually "bought" a player!...oooer Mrs...what a player this lad is...suppose the only question is, can he step it up in the league...
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Brilliant signing. Best performance I saw from an opposition player last season.
Hurst's comments are telling saying he's his "main target" and we've paid a fee.
Hopefully he steps up and kicks on.
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Feels like a big one. You rarely see PH make the kind of comments he has in that article about a player.
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Absolutely glowing stuff from Hurst in that. Not sure I've ever heard him talk someone up so much.
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Having watched some of our rivals sign some very good midfielders, I feel we have got someone who has maybe gone under the radar a bit and will prove to be just as effective as some of those with more well known profiles. Feels like a key signing and someone who can keep us solid while the more creative players go and do their thing.
Squad shaping up nicely.
Welcome Kieran.
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Absolutely glowing stuff from Hurst in that. Not sure I've ever heard him talk someone up so much.
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Covered enough ground for 3 games. He's not going to excite you with his skill of which he is a decent footballer. But I can guarantee you won't find a player in league 2 who will run through brick walls
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Who would have predicted 2 years ago when Holloway was signing nobody's that we would have paid a fee for a player. This club has come a long way in 2 years and the winds of change are blowing through BP.
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With Green, Maher, Waterfall and MacAtee we now have four of the most highly rated players in the NL last season on our books.
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Reminds me of his interview about McAtee last year
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And Clifton was wanted by Forest Green, a division above,
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He looks to be the same trough character as Bobby Cumming. He ran through brick walls as well. And knocked tough opponents through them.
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Players like this with the never say die attitude are the difference in games. Can’t bloody wait to watch us get underway this season now.
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Hurst rarely praises a player like this. And we know he generally has an eye for a player anyway. If he has half the impact McAtee had then we've got a beast of a central midfielder. Welcome Kieran, can't wait to see you play.
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Looks like Town have signed Halifax’s defensive spine plus another experienced midfield player from a higher division.
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This probably isn’t going to be a popular view but I seriously hope Kieran turns out to be 2022’s Stacy Coldicott. A proper midfield enforcer, a yard dog to break up play and lay off the short balls. A big statement from PH in saying that he was the number one target.
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This could be a huge signing.
Hurst is at his best when he grinds one out like a stripper in Los Cristianos.
We shipped too many goals last year and rarely looked like keeping a clean sheet - even when we did. I don’t think that was necessarily the fault of the defence.
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This could be a huge signing.
Hurst is at his best when he grinds one out like a stripper in Los Cristianos.
We shipped too many goals last year and rarely looked like keeping a clean sheet - even when we did. I don’t think that was necessarily the fault of the defence.
1.6ppg probably gets us to the playoffs (or within reach) and every clean sheet makes a massive difference.
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This could be a huge signing.
Hurst is at his best when he grinds one out like a stripper in Los Cristianos.
We shipped too many goals last year and rarely looked like keeping a clean sheet - even when we did. I don’t think that was necessarily the fault of the defence.
1.6ppg probably gets us to the playoffs (or within reach) and every clean sheet makes a massive difference.
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This could be a huge signing.
Hurst is at his best when he grinds one out like a stripper in Los Cristianos.
We shipped too many goals last year and rarely looked like keeping a clean sheet - even when we did. I don’t think that was necessarily the fault of the defence.
1.6ppg probably gets us to the playoffs (or within reach) and every clean sheet makes a massive difference.
This, plus he seems to have a very logical and analytical approach to assembling a SQUAD, works out what he feels isn’t quite right and then looks for the players with the attributes to execute his plan. Aside from the odd signing with question marks over being prone to injuries, he clearly prefers to operate to a plan. I’m not expecting a ‘punt’ on a 20 goals a season marquee striker, I get the impression that he wants goals from all areas. |
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Well that has sullied the memory of a lovely childhood holiday.
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In all seriousness I’d argue this signing shows how far the club has come, and that’s no disrespect to players that have gone before. There’s always a risk and just because we’ve clearly paid a fee, it really doesn’t mean he’ll be the Busquets.
That said, it’s refreshing to see we’re not scouring around for a bargain and a square peg but that’ll do type of player. I’d imagine we’ve used the data available, liked at players, looked at the squad and Hurst has chosen the players, as others have said, to execute his plans and perform to his style. Goals from all over is always an advantage so I don’t see us chasing a player like that and spaffing our cash on a gamble…it’ll be calculated and in truth, regardless of what some of the buffoons thought in his previous spell, it’s a tried and tested method for Hurst and us really.
Anyone that isn’t impressed with a signing like this is probably unaware of the sort of player and the ability he’s got, not to mention his importance to Halifax.
Hurst wanted his man and he got him.
I’ve never been happier as a town fan, and whilst it’s taken us to the abyss, again, it feels mega at the minute…
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It’s a lot cheaper, easier and more sustainable to sort out your defensive unit than find a 20 goal striker.
Hurst’s budgie smugglers might just have a bigger beak next week.
Lovin’ it.
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Not wanting to over-egg it, but I think this signing completely changes the face of our business this summer and probably the season as a whole. If we miss out on Green then Hurst has 2 weeks to find the lynchpin in the middle of the park from a properly hollowed-out pool of players. Very happy with this one.
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In all seriousness I’d argue this signing shows how far the club has come, and that’s no disrespect to players that have gone before. There’s always a risk and just because we’ve clearly paid a fee, it really doesn’t mean he’ll be the Busquets.
That said, it’s refreshing to see we’re not scouring around for a bargain and a square peg but that’ll do type of player. I’d imagine we’ve used the data available, liked at players, looked at the squad and Hurst has chosen the players, as others have said, to execute his plans and perform to his style. Goals from all over is always an advantage so I don’t see us chasing a player like that and spaffing our cash on a gamble…it’ll be calculated and in truth, regardless of what some of the buffoons thought in his previous spell, it’s a tried and tested method for Hurst and us really.
Anyone that isn’t impressed with a signing like this is probably unaware of the sort of player and the ability he’s got, not to mention his importance to Halifax.
Hurst wanted his man and he got him.
I’ve never been happier as a town fan, and whilst it’s taken us to the abyss, again, it feels mega at the minute…
I’ve simply got to congratulate you on getting the word ‘spaffing’ into your post. It takes me back 40 odd years to my first ever real date. The advice from my father was, ‘go upstairs and bash one out son, nothing worse than spaffing your muck in 30 seconds’.  |
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This probably isn’t going to be a popular view but I seriously hope Kieran turns out to be 2022’s Stacy Coldicott. A proper midfield enforcer,[/b] a yard dog [b]to break up play and lay off the short balls. A big statement from PH in saying that he was the number one target.
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This, plus he seems to have a very logical and analytical approach to assembling a SQUAD, works out what he feels isn’t quite right and then looks for the players with the attributes to execute his plan. Aside from the odd signing with question marks over being prone to injuries, he clearly prefers to operate to a plan. [/b] I’m not expecting a ‘punt’ on a 20 goals a season marquee striker, I get the impression that he wants goals from all areas.[b]
Which is the wise option, look how it turned out for Chesterfield haha. |
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To be honest I think we had a 20-goals-a-season striker last season anyway. If McAtee hadn't had his spell out injured in the middle of the season I'm pretty sure he'd have got to 20 goals.
.....not that I'd change anything at all about last season by the way, given the amazing way it ended.
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Not wanting to over-egg it, but I think this signing completely changes the face of our business this summer and probably the season as a whole. If we miss out on Green then Hurst has 2 weeks to find the lynchpin in the middle of the park from a properly hollowed-out pool of players. Very happy with this one.
Feel this, when he was “rumoured” I felt that with the background Green came with, the fact he was a big player for Halifax and under contract that it was a main target for Hurst and if it didn’t happen that we would have missed out our main target. Hurst has now said he was the main target, he’s got his man and I couldn’t be more relieved and happier. |
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Fantastic signing and one that brings something to the table we lost in Ben Fox moving on, he can play that kind of role so maybe Hurst wanting him is why we were not prepared to match Northampton in salary and bonuses offered and didn't see Fox being his first choice. It's quite crazy that after hearing we were still waiting for a decision on a couple of players that both of them signed for us. I can't remember the last season where I heard players had gone away to think about it and it's been a couple of weeks then ended up with us. Used to hearing they turned us down when a better offer came along so can only assume we are bringing good offers to the table.
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This is an absolute mega signing. Loving to see our club pushing forward and making positive moves.
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How times have changed.
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Seems like another unbelievable signing. This club is going places.
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Where's this Hurst interview with him talking about him being his main target?
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Where's this Hurst interview with him talking about him being his main target?
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Where's this Hurst interview with him talking about him being his main target?
Just quotes in the article that announced the signing on the OS. |
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We could do with another CB, MF and a striker but I’ve not known us be in such a good place for squad numbers 2 weeks before the start of the season. Well done to PH and the club.
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We could do with another CB, MF and a striker but I’ve not known us be in such a good place for squad numbers 2 weeks before the start of the season. Well done to PH and the club.
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Two great signings IMO - suddenly the squad looks very competitive and full of quality in every area of the pitch
Providing Green and Morris stay injury free I see them in the starting XI - surely they would have wanted some sort of first team guarantee especially as other clubs would have been after them, I suspect?
So, I wonder what formation PH is thinking of?
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Two great signings IMO - suddenly the squad looks very competitive and full of quality in every area of the pitch
Providing Green and Morris stay injury free I see them in the starting XI - surely they would have wanted some sort of first team guarantee especially as other clubs would have been after them, I suspect?
So, I wonder what formation PH is thinking of?
4231?
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Efete
Maher
Waterfall
Glennon
Green
Morris
Wearne
McAtee
Khan
Orsi
We could have a subs bench something like:
Battersby
Pearson
Amos
Clifton
Holohan
Maguire Drew
Taylor
Going by your thinking above then the fact we have had to fight off leagueb1 interst for clifton puts him ahead of 1 of Khan or wearne. As it is I don't think anyone will have a first 11 guarantee from Hurst personally. If you recall fox was in and out of the 11 at the start of last season after dropping down from league 1. |
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Going by your thinking above then the fact we have had to fight off leagueb1 interst for clifton puts him ahead of 1 of Khan or wearne.
As it is I don't think anyone will have a first 11 guarantee from Hurst personally. If you recall fox was in and out of the 11 at the start of last season after dropping down from league 1.
Good point and just shows what a problem PH has - but a nice one Totally depends on formation IMO - I can't see Clifton being used out wide when we now have three specialists in that role and what about CM? I think he may lose out to Green and Morris who may be better all round footballers Harry possibly paying price for being too versatile but not as good as specialist players? Having said all of that Harry is perhaps fittest player at club and will be flying at start of season so will probably be in first team - see what happens as season develops |
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Good point and just shows what a problem PH has - but a nice one
Totally depends on formation IMO - I can't see Clifton being used out wide when we now have three specialists in that role and what about CM? I think he may lose out to Green and Morris who may be better all round footballers
Harry possibly paying price for being too versatile but not as good as specialist players?
Having said all of that Harry is perhaps fittest player at club and will be flying at start of season so will probably be in first team - see what happens as season develops
To be fair, we had just as many wide players last season and Harry still played the majority of the season in that left-sided role. Sousa, Scannell (who was fit for most of the season apparently) and then Bapaga/Maguire-Drew. I can't see Hurst changing from the 4231 that served us well last season. We just need either a good alternative to McAtee or a better plan B for if he gets injured again. |
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Might be wrong but I get the impression from the player interviews that Wearne or Khan could play the McAtee role if he's injured or banned for a few games
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To be fair, we had just as many wide players last season and Harry still played the majority of the season in that left-sided role.
Sousa, Scannell (who was fit for most of the season apparently) and then Bapaga/Maguire-Drew.
I can't see Hurst changing from the 4231 that served us well last season. We just need either a good alternative to McAtee or a better plan B for if he gets injured again.
This is the crucial bit for me. I do wonder if we're maybe still in for Andrew Dallas who could replace McAtee or operate across that three. I know someone quoted JS from the Clee game as saying that there would hopefully be a couple of signings that got the fans excited and I wonder if Green was one and perhaps Dallas as the other. Total guesswork from me but would seem to fit an area we need and we know that Hurst likes and values players that can play in multiple positions. We're also evidently not scared of paying a fee for the right player either. |
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Clearly I’m an idiot so do allow me this, but I just don’t see where a no.9 fits into the system that we played last year, unless he’s a better version of Taylor and going to be ahead of both him & Orsi? Hurst has said he’s after one, so obviously he has something in mind, but I just had Orsi down as that fox-in-the-box poacher type. I suppose we did have Taylor, Mani & Abrahams last year which could go 4-4-2 at times and Abrahams could play out on the left, but if we ended up with a classic CF type I just don’t know where they’d slot in?
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Clearly I’m an idiot so do allow me this, but I just don’t see where a no.9 fits into the system that we played last year, unless he’s a better version of Taylor and going to be ahead of both him & Orsi? Hurst has said he’s after one, so obviously he has something in mind, but I just had Orsi down as that fox-in-the-box poacher type. I suppose we did have Taylor, Mani & Abrahams last year which could go 4-4-2 at times and Abrahams could play out on the left, but if we ended up with a classic CF type I just don’t know where they’d slot in?
Totally agree with this we seem set up for a hold up style forward, don't they call them false 9s these days. A Mark Hughes type (him being my favourite in this position). Now that is Taylor, unless as you say we find a better one. |
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Clearly I’m an idiot so do allow me this, but I just don’t see where a no.9 fits into the system that we played last year, unless he’s a better version of Taylor and going to be ahead of both him & Orsi? Hurst has said he’s after one, so obviously he has something in mind, but I just had Orsi down as that fox-in-the-box poacher type. I suppose we did have Taylor, Mani & Abrahams last year which could go 4-4-2 at times and Abrahams could play out on the left, but if we ended up with a classic CF type I just don’t know where they’d slot in?
Another idiot here too. I don't see this obsession with needing a free scoring centre forward. Chesterfield are an example of how this backfires when they get injured for a long time. The 3 players directly behind Taylor are all capable of scoring a decent number. Sousa had plenty of chances last season and his wastefulness is probably why he was released but JMD and Clifton had a decent goal return. I'm interested to see how Orsi fits in, last summer he would have been that goalscoring centre forward we all crave but it didn't work out for him last season. |
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Another idiot here too. I don't see this obsession with needing a free scoring centre forward. Chesterfield are an example of how this backfires when they get injured for a long time.
The 3 players directly behind Taylor are all capable of scoring a decent number. Sousa had plenty of chances last season and his wastefulness is probably why he was released but JMD and Clifton had a decent goal return.
I'm interested to see how Orsi fits in, last summer he would have been that goalscoring centre forward we all crave but it didn't work out for him last season.
I would have thought you have different types of striker to give you different options to change shape. Mani and Abrahams were totally different to Taylor and Orsi looks different again. |
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Another idiot here too. I don't see this obsession with needing a free scoring centre forward. Chesterfield are an example of how this backfires when they get injured for a long time.
The 3 players directly behind Taylor are all capable of scoring a decent number. Sousa had plenty of chances last season and his wastefulness is probably why he was released but JMD and Clifton had a decent goal return.
I'm interested to see how Orsi fits in, last summer he would have been that goalscoring centre forward we all crave but it didn't work out for him last season.
I don’t think we’re necessarily looking for a free scoring centre forward, nor do I think we’d be likely to find one within our price range anyway. But looking at things completely objectively, for all his obvious class, Taylor scored 9 in the National League last season and has averaged about 3 goals a season in his recent previous seasons in the league. Factoring in that he’s now 34, in an ideal world I think Hurst would want a younger and more free scoring version of Taylor, and I suspect that’s precisely what he’s looking for. Not someone who is going to trouble the golden boot award, but someone capable of holding up the ball and linking up play as well as Taylor, only capable of reaching low double figures in terms of goal return. Whether that player is out there remains to be seen. |
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We have very capable options in many positions now. On another thread someone suggested a starting 11 for next season. This selection had 6 regular or occasional first team players only as squad players. Plus Pearson.
Whatever the team that Hurst picks, it is going to be a significant improvement on last season. And with more players expected to come in.
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I think we will go for a Taylor type player, but younger and fitter to battle it out between them. I think Orsi will be part of a plan B in the Abrahams/Mani mould.
Green will be a definite starter but not sure that Morris will. I think Holohan will be down the pecking order and was signed with an eye to this season and still being in the National League. JMD also falls into this bracket unless he can seriously up his work rate. Clifton has the required work rate and is better than people give him credit for in that left sided role. I expect he will keep that role myself.
I think that some of last years team will be spending time in the stands.
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I don’t think we’re necessarily looking for a free scoring centre forward, nor do I think we’d be likely to find one within our price range anyway. But looking at things completely objectively, for all his obvious class, Taylor scored 9 in the National League last season and has averaged about 3 goals a season in his recent previous seasons in the league.
Factoring in that he’s now 34, in an ideal world I think Hurst would want a younger and more free scoring version of Taylor, and I suspect that’s precisely what he’s looking for. Not someone who is going to trouble the golden boot award, but someone capable of holding up the ball and linking up play as well as Taylor, only capable of reaching low double figures in terms of goal return.
Whether that player is out there remains to be seen.
Aaron Amadi-Holloway perhaps? Released by Burton but played League 1 and 2 most of his career. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57937187 |
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Anything with the name holloway terrifies me…
Could be cathartic to have a decent Holloway at the club. Just a thought anyway. Hurst is probably looking at someone we've never heard of and he will sign next week. |
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I think we will go for a Taylor type player, but younger and fitter to battle it out between them. I think Orsi will be part of a plan B in the Abrahams/Mani mould.
I think that some of last years team will be spending time in the stands.
Id expect Crocombe, Efete, Waterfall, Clifton and McAtee to start the season as first choice in their respective positions, fitness permitting. Beyond that, I’d be a little surprised. |
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Id expect Crocombe, Efete, Waterfall, Clifton and McAtee to start the season as first choice in their respective positions, fitness permitting. Beyond that, I’d be a little surprised.
Big year for Maguire-Drew, if he wants to prove he can be a consistent league standard player this is his chance, don't think he'll get a better one. Hopefully he busts a gut and can be a mainstay along with those others on your list. |
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JDM looks leaner in the training videos, and he's had a full preseason.
As for a free scoring centre forward, we had a very good one that would have won us promotion, Liam Hearn. As others have said, put all your eggs in one basket.
We need to work on our finishing, so when chances are created, they get taken, whoever the player is. Need to be ruthless in front of goal.
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I think we will go for a Taylor type player, but younger and fitter to battle it out between them. I think Orsi will be part of a plan B in the Abrahams/Mani mould.
Green will be a definite starter but not sure that Morris will. I think Holohan will be down the pecking order and was signed with an eye to this season and still being in the National League. JMD also falls into this bracket unless he can seriously up his work rate. Clifton has the required work rate and is better than people give him credit for in that left sided role. I expect he will keep that role myself.
I think that some of last years team will be spending time in the stands.
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Workrate isn't JMD's problem, it's fitness.
Yeah, but if you’re blowing out of your árse after half an hour then invariably that’s going to impact your work rate. The advantage of having JMD in for pre-season is that you can address those fitness issues in ways you can’t do mid-season, so hopefully we do see a much fitter version of the player in League Two because his ability isn’t in doubt. |
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The other thing to remember is we can have 5 subs, so Hurst can change the formation of the team and also get the best out of JMD and then sub him, or bring him on at halftime or later.
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Good point and just shows what a problem PH has - but a nice one
Totally depends on formation IMO - I can't see Clifton being used out wide when we now have three specialists in that role and what about CM? I think he may lose out to Green and Morris who may be better all round footballers
Harry possibly paying price for being too versatile but not as good as specialist players?
Having said all of that Harry is perhaps fittest player at club and will be flying at start of season so will probably be in first team - see what happens as season develops
Maybe we need to start looking at Cliftons "natural" position as a wide midfielder/defensive winger/inverted winger/inside forward rather than a centre mid? Worth noting that he got his best goal tally to date last season and has said he wants to build on that. Fits into our front man feeding the attack 3 behind him |
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just realised I named 4 "positions" but they all originate from the winger position
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