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diehardmariner
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Quoted from Lincoln Mariner 56
Think Taylor would be “less of a problem” if we played someone closer to him, but not trying to undertake the role McAtee provides, and a little surprised we haven’t seen Orsi start a game alongside him and even when Pebble has come on and played alongside we have looked, IMO, more dangerous.


But when we've gone with two up top we've lost bite and energy in the middle.

3 in midfield and we more often than not tend to dominate teams.  I completely get though that we're isolated a lot of the time in attack.

Genuinely surprised we've not seen more of a 3-5-2  this season so we get the best of both worlds.  
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Taylor is not the issue he is a very good player but he isn't a goalscorer and he is not st his best in the lone striker role.Its the players around him not getting close enough or getting I to the box to support and finish our limited attacks. Last night I thought we looked most likely to score from the Cropper bombs.
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I'd have paid for Richardson by now.


Christ you all wanted him sacked a few months ago. 6th place finish and he's now the messiah and can do no wrong  
Update:  I think I've got this right - He was the messiah. He then wasn't. He then was again. Then it turned out he actually wasnt. He turned into one big huge messiah again. Now he's not actually the messiah we thought he was . Now I'm hoping he rises again quickly
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I'd have paid for Richardson by now.


He’s probably not for sale.
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Quoted from 1mickylyons
Taylor is not the issue he is a very good player but he isn't a goalscorer and he is not st his best in the lone striker role.Its the players around him not getting close enough or getting I to the box to support and finish our limited attacks. Last night I thought we looked most likely to score from the Cropper bombs.


Taylor is pointless if he's as isolated as he was last night. He does have his limitations but he's acutely aware of them and plays around them as well as any player I've seen. You have to get midfielders lile Holohan and Clifton running beyond him, and wingers like Khan and Keirnan buzzing around him. If he's isolated, the ball will simply come back towards our goal.


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Taylor is pointless if he's as isolated as he was last night. He does have his limitations but he's acutely aware of them and plays around them as well as any player I've seen. You have to get midfielders lile Holohan and Clifton running beyond him, and wingers like Khan and Keirnan buzzing around him. If he's isolated, the ball will simply come back towards our goal.


First half twenty five yards out in space with one player to beat, he pushed it down the left channel, ran after it like his legs were in treacle, crossed the ball which was cleared by the first man. Another time in space he hardly got his shot off, scuffed it with his right foot. Both were excellent opportunities in a tight game. Any decent striker at this level would have dropped his shoulder and got a shot off. These were game changing moments where our first choice striker could have lifted his team.

I've said it before, isolated or not, Taylor provides a small target as he more often than not backs into the centre half for a grapple rather than offer some lateral movement. If we had a striker that was sharp and sprinted off the centre half towards the ball or offered an outlet down the sides of centre halves, the target becomes bigger for a forward ball. Another option would be to play a false nine in between the lines with centre halves not knowing whether to follow him or not. We don't have to be predictable and play with a static target man all the time. Taylor is ok and he'll do a job, but he's missing that pace, sharpness and finishing we need to compete at the top end of the table. Elsewhere I'd say we've got enough, so I'd invest every bit of January transfer window money on a striker..
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First half twenty five yards out in space with one player to beat, he pushed it down the left channel, ran after it like his legs were in treacle, crossed the ball which was cleared by the first man. Another time in space he hardly got his shot off, scuffed it with his right foot. Both were excellent opportunities in a tight game. Any decent striker at this level would have dropped his shoulder and got a shot off. These were game changing moments where our first choice striker could have lifted his team.

I've said it before, isolated or not, Taylor provides a small target as he more often than not backs into the centre half for a grapple rather than offer some lateral movement. If we had a striker that was sharp and sprinted off the centre half towards the ball or offered an outlet down the sides of centre halves, the target becomes bigger for a forward ball. Another option would be to play a false nine in between the lines with centre halves not knowing whether to follow him or not. We don't have to be predictable and play with a static target man all the time. Taylor is ok and he'll do a job, but he's missing that pace, sharpness and finishing we need to compete at the top end of the table. Elsewhere I'd say we've got enough, so I'd invest every bit of January transfer window money on a striker..


The manager keeps telling us we need a striker so it’s not a mystery, is it? The fact that he signed four strikers in the transfer window and, barring Richardson, the fact that none have looked anything like nailing down a spot shows how difficult it is to find one.

We’ve had four windows under Hurst and he hasn’t found the prolific goal scorer you crave yet so I’m guessing he’s not trying hard enough for you?
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The manager keeps telling us we need a striker so it’s not a mystery, is it? The fact that he signed four strikers in the transfer window and, barring Richardson, the fact that none have looked anything like nailing down a spot shows how difficult it is to find one.

We’ve had four windows under Hurst and he hasn’t found the prolific goal scorer you crave yet so I’m guessing he’s not trying hard enough for you?


I'll give him five windows before I'll say he's not trying hard enough..

The one thing I will say is that PH doesn't seem to sign pacy forwards though.. and it's what defenders fear most..
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I don’t know why people think Hurst should have a supernatural ability to find a 30 goal, fast, target man when the other 23 managers in L2 appear to be facing the same problems.

If you look at the L2 top scorers chart it’s a pretty dispiriting list, headed by an attacking midfielder and Andy Cook (last seen in the Blundell Park dressing room, sucking his thumb and being rocked to sleep by Mark Hughes).

Harry Clifton is 11th top scorer despite many on here spending early season moaning Harry couldn’t even finish a wänk. Taylor’s only one goal off appearing on the list himself.

If we had limitless cash, I’m not convinced I’d take any striker I’ve seen play against Town so far this season. Mandron maybe, but he’s not exactly prolific himself.

I know I sound like a broken record but the PL/Championship academies have spent the last few years pumping out false 9s and inverted wingers rather than strikers who can lead the line. That’s why there is a shortage.
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Not seen any striker in this league that stand out let alone could stick in 20/30 goals this season.
All this bla bla bla about Hurst finding such a striker is so fukin boring.


In his three stints as Grimsby Town manager spanning over 10 years the club was never relegated and he also guided them to three promotions.
Only 14 managers have reached 1,000 matches in charge of a Football League team by 1998 and Buckley is one of them.
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