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I agree with this, i dont think he’s done anything to be worthy of a spot in the starting 11 thus far
Possibly because he’s not been in it often enough to judge him? |
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If people think the side is missing spirit then I’d question if they’re watching GTFC.
Our spirit makes up for our deficiencies elsewhere.
The obsession with this so called 20 goal a season player is something that’s becoming tiresome. Aside from Amond, Hearn me Connell to some extent, in my life time the 20 goal a season player has almost not existed.
Even at the top, forgetting Haaland, goals are often spread across the team, one key player isn’t always the key anymore,
And besides, we’re looking for the one thing everyone is looking for…
Was letting Manny go a bad idea? May be so but I’d argue the vast majority of town fans didn’t think much of him until his playoff heroics…
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Didn't want to come on last night and probably a good job really..
First 25 minutes I thought we was going to cruise to a 3 or 4-0 win. We hadn't got out of gear 2 but we pushed them so far back they couldn't handle our right side. After that it was just 2 poor teams and they took control of what was a dreadful game and came through with 3 points. Crowcombe the only player for me who deserves any credit. I do like a 3 at the back but in doing that you need 2 upfront. It looked like we was playing 5311 which is rediculous.
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Most of this I disagree with, especially the point about team spirit, that’s bollox.
Mani would have been an alternative to Taylor but not kept ahead of Taylor, in that role in reality from what we saw wasn’t as good at it. He did score a couple of important play off goals though that can’t be denied and he’s getting a few at tin pot level too.
The point about Essel is just clutching at straws, we’ve got enough young strikers to blood, that’s half the problem so adding another won’t achieve anything different I reckon.
The point about Essel is he’s ours, not someone else’s cast off. Pepple is a complete waste of a loan. |
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The point about Essel is he’s ours, not someone else’s cast off. Pepple is a complete waste of a loan.
He's the dunnage in the McAtee deal. Get's on the bus to keep Luton on side till next May. We don't need a 20 goal striker per se, just someone who has game intelligence, moves defenders around and can cover ground quicker than Taylor. We can stay comfortably midtable if we continue to get midfielders in the box and support the man with the ball. Trying to replicate either Taylor or McAtee or both is impossible. Stockport are steadying the ship because they have a stock of experienced players to shuffle. We have too many who lack that experience or the fitness to stay the course. |
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Yes but unless I’m missing something you’re not a professional footballer are you?
Nobody on this board knows the effort PH did or didn’t put in to get a decent striker. Everyone on this board recognised how hard working he is so we’d have to assume he did his best?
The owners have backed him on loads of stuff both in terms of squad numbers, support staff improved facilities etc.., so you would assume he would have had funds to a reasonable level especially as JS said all season ticket revenues go to the playing budget.
Why can’t people accept that bigger clubs near big cities who have been in the football league longer than us or a couple who haven’t but have very wealthy or stupid owners pay better wages.
Also maybe players didn’t want to come to a place like Grimsby after they’d just been promoted and nobody had a clue how the side was going to get on.
We just have to accept that we are tte only people who believe in the “Mighty Mariners” away from us most people think we’re Grimsby and “the place stinks of fish”.
Plus mud sticks, ask Martin Gritton and numerous other players what working for GTFC has been like in recent years, he’ll talk you through his experience with the then owners when he signed for the club.
At last, a post with a grip on reality. I wasn't at the match or had access to any other means of following the game so can't comment on individual performances. However by reading the earlier comments on this thread a recurrent theme is that several players had below par performances and didn't play to their abilities. Ok maybe Hurst, in some people's opinion, got his tactics and subs wrong - fair comment. That doesn't explain why players on the field misplace passes, make wrong decisions, don't mark their player correctly or give away needless fouls. Their is no easy answer to a sub- par performance as any one involved in football will tell you. As a comparison, how are we placed at the moment in this league as opposed to the same time last year in a league lower? We had a bad patch and several posters wanted Hurst out but he pulled things around and we achieved the almost impossible. Of course we have to push for another promotion but if we ended up in this league placing at the end of the season would that be a disaster? The owners and PH have a long term plan which, with a bit of patience from the fans will bear fruit. |
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The point about Essel is he’s ours, not someone else’s cast off. Pepple is a complete waste of a loan.
That’s a fair point, not sure you can judge players when they play bit parts in games. The only thing I can say is that I think there is now science and stats go into bringing players in and you’d assume that as the current loans have come from bigger clubs with more advanced academies etc..,Hurst thinks they’re better than youngsters such as Essel, he’s better qualified than anyone on here to make that decision as he does it for a living. In terms of Essel, Hurst seems to rate him and it looks like he’s keen to develop him as one for the future whether that’s as a player or sell on. Developing him at a level where he’ll get some challenge, starts and minutes rather than being thrown on when we’re chasing a game looks like the manager feels is better for the player. Like I say Hurst knows best on this one I’m afraid and we’ll just have to accept it. |
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That’s a fair point, not sure you can judge players when they play bit parts in games.
The only thing I can say is that I think there is now science and stats go into bringing players in and you’d assume that as the current loans have come from bigger clubs with more advanced academies etc..,Hurst thinks they’re better than youngsters such as Essel, he’s better qualified than anyone on here to make that decision as he does it for a living.
In terms of Essel, Hurst seems to rate him and it looks like he’s keen to develop him as one for the future whether that’s as a player or sell on. Developing him at a level where he’ll get some challenge, starts and minutes rather than being thrown on when we’re chasing a game looks like the manager feels is better for the player. Like I say Hurst knows best on this one I’m afraid and we’ll just have to accept it.
As previously described, Pepple is the 'dunnage' in the McAtee deal. Luton know he's not ready and it's a pity we couldn't have bartered for Mendes Gomes or even Pereira. Just seems a shame that we are effectively wasting loans on other people's cast offs. |
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As previously described, Pepple is the 'dunnage' in the McAtee deal. Luton know he's not ready and it's a pity we couldn't have bartered for Mendes Gomes or even Pereira. Just seems a shame that we are effectively wasting loans on other people's cast offs.
Well is what it is unfortunately. They allowed us John back the season so ultimately it was the right deal for the club |
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As previously described, Pepple is the 'dunnage' in the McAtee deal. Luton know he's not ready and it's a pity we couldn't have bartered for Mendes Gomes or even Pereira. Just seems a shame that we are effectively wasting loans on other people's cast offs.
That’s what all loans are in reality aren’t they? “Dunnage” so out of a standard Fishy Sunday meltdown I’ve leant a new word, out of every “crisis” there is always a bright spot 👍 |
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