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Quoted from chaos33

Yes. And?

divvy the merciless, your statement at the footer of your post is surely ironic ?

Do what you love while you can…..as long as it conforms to my beliefs

What are you on about Nick?

2 wins, 2 draws and 5 defeats from the last 9 league games. That’s only 1 point better than the 7 points (W2 D1 L6) Holloway managed from his final 9 league games as Town manager.

Has it started to go stale under Hurst? The age of long term managerial reigns is over after all. Are the players starting to get bored by the same voices.

Hurst is the 4th longest serving manager in League 2 (out of 24) and the 12th longest serving manager in the EFL as a whole (out of 72).

If I’m being honest I think he underachieved clearing up Holloway’s mess and failing to avoid relegation, he overachieved getting an instant return to the EFL and he’s underachieving again this season in the league.

What do we all think is acceptable for this season and next?

I would say a solid top half finish and maybe sneaking into the playoffs this season and a proper automatic promotion challenge next season aren’t unrealistic targets.

Mid to top half finish is more than fine for me.

Quoted from GollyGTFC

2 wins, 2 draws and 5 defeats from the last 9 league games. That’s only 1 point better than the 7 points (W2 D1 L6) Holloway managed from his final 9 league games as Town manager.

Has it started to go stale under Hurst? The age of long term managerial reigns is over after all. Are the players starting to get bored by the same voices.

Hurst is the 4th longest serving manager in League 2 (out of 24) and the 12th longest serving manager in the EFL as a whole (out of 72).

If I’m being honest I think he underachieved clearing up Holloway’s mess and failing to avoid relegation, he overachieved getting an instant return to the EFL and he’s underachieving again this season in the league.

What do we all think is acceptable for this season and next?

I would say a solid top half finish and maybe sneaking into the playoffs this season and a proper automatic promotion challenge next season aren’t unrealistic targets.

Look who’s back working at the cherry farm!

What do we all think is acceptable for this season and next?

I would say a solid top half finish and maybe sneaking into the playoffs this season and a proper automatic promotion challenge next season aren’t unrealistic targets.[/quote]

Personally, at the start of the season, and it still applies today, I expected that this season would see us comfortably finish in a mid table position and that next season we might be pushing strongly for the playoffs.

I still have some reservations about some of our summer signings but there is plenty of the season left for a number of these guys to kick on and become integral parts of the team. Obviously our home form is incredibly disappointing but the biggest disappointment has been the failure to identify the favoured tactical approach PH wants to adopt in home games. Accept that tactics are often tweaked to reflect the opposition or injury but we don’t seem to have a game plan or at least one that allows us to get forward at pace and maintain some lengthy periods of pressure in the opposition’s half.

In January would like to see us bring in a commanding midfield player, a wide player who has both pace and the ability to beat a man and can take us forward with intent. At present I don’t believe Kiernan is of the right quality and Khan can flatter to deceive but acknowledge he has the attributes we require even though he can drift out of games for long periods. Of course these additions would be accompanied by a couple of forwards one of whom needs to be a first choice option.

Given the above and the return of a fit McAtee we should comfortably achieve my expected mid table position but with improved home form maybe something a little higher!

Quoted from Grantley

Look who’s back working at the cherry farm!

Can you explain how I’m cherry picking?
Using facts and statistics?
Not happy clapping along?
This total lack of ambition amazes me.

The highest we've finished since 2006 is 14th so I would take anything above that as a clear sign of progress.

Quoted from Lincoln Mariner 56

Personally, at the start of the season, and it still applies today, I expected that this season would see us comfortably finish in a mid table position and that next season we might be pushing strongly for the playoffs.

I still have some reservations about some of our summer signings but there is plenty of the season left for a number of these guys to kick on and become integral parts of the team. Obviously our home form is incredibly disappointing but the biggest disappointment has been the failure to identify the favoured tactical approach PH wants to adopt in home games. Accept that tactics are often tweaked to reflect the opposition or injury but we don’t seem to have a game plan or at least one that allows us to get forward at pace and maintain some lengthy periods of pressure in the opposition’s half.

In January would like to see us bring in a commanding midfield player, a wide player who has both pace and the ability to beat a man and can take us forward with intent. At present I don’t believe Kiernan is of the right quality and Khan can flatter to deceive but acknowledge he has the attributes we require even though he can drift out of games for long periods. Of course these additions would be accompanied by a couple of forwards one of whom needs to be a first choice option.

Given the above and the return of a fit McAtee we should comfortably achieve my expected mid table position but with improved home form maybe something a little higher!

I think the summer signings issues was always going to happen. We finished 4 weeks after most league clubs last season. It resulted in a lot of potential targets already being sorted out and meant we had to retain players who ideally Hurst might had liked to get rid of.

Quoted from GollyGTFC

2 wins, 2 draws and 5 defeats from the last 9 league games. That’s only 1 point better than the 7 points (W2 D1 L6) Holloway managed from his final 9 league games as Town manager.

Has it started to go stale under Hurst? The age of long term managerial reigns is over after all. Are the players starting to get bored by the same voices.

Hurst is the 4th longest serving manager in League 2 (out of 24) and the 12th longest serving manager in the EFL as a whole (out of 72).

If I’m being honest I think he underachieved clearing up Holloway’s mess and failing to avoid relegation, he overachieved getting an instant return to the EFL and he’s underachieving again this season in the league.

What do we all think is acceptable for this season and next?

I would say a solid top half finish and maybe sneaking into the playoffs this season and a proper automatic promotion challenge next season aren’t unrealistic targets.

We had a record turnaround time this close season, we've had to play without our stay player for all but 1 and a bit games this season. Until last weekend we had more points than any promoted side in the top four tiers of English football. We are now playing without our focal point and only man who can effectively play the lone striker role. To cherry pick the poor home form, ignoring our excellent away record (certainly prior to Barrow) is an unfair representation.

We're now in poor form, for a variety of reasons but with McAtee coming back and how well we know we can play, I'm not unduly worried. Dare say we'll finish somewhere between 10th and 16th. Then we have a proper go next season as we'll have been a League club for a season, so slightly better established, we'll know which League we're in from a much earlier stage and finish the season a month earlier, so Hursty will be able to better identify and start talking to players in earnest more quickly.

It hasn't gone stale, a month ago we'd come off an excellent away win at Stockport and we were all bullish about our prospects. Hursty came out the right side of a much more testing period last season, I have no doubt he will do the same here. This is a blip, not a slump.