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geir
April 7, 2023, 7:40pm

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What is better than asking an AI (artificial intelligence) about Grimsbys problem? So I went into Chat GPT and asked the following question:

How can Grimsby Town FC score more goals in league games?

The answer was as follows:

"There are a number of strategies that Grimsby Town FC could consider to score more goals in league games:

1. Improve the team's overall fitness and conditioning: This can help the players to maintain their performance levels for longer periods during matches, giving them more opportunities to score goals.

2. Develop a more creative attacking strategy: The team could work on developing more intricate passing moves and using more varied attacking options to create more chances in front of goal.

3. Focus on set-piece opportunities: Grimsby Town FC could work on improving their set-piece routines, such as corner kicks and free kicks, to create more goal-scoring opportunities from these situations.

4. Sign more attacking players: The team could look to sign additional attacking players with a proven track record of scoring goals, in order to increase the team's overall goal-scoring threat.

5. Analyze the opposition: The team could analyze their opponents' defensive weaknesses and tailor their attacking strategy accordingly, in order to exploit these weaknesses and create more goal-scoring opportunities.

It's important to note that scoring more goals is not solely down to the players on the pitch but also the training, tactics, and strategy set by the coaching staff. By working on these areas, Grimsby Town FC can improve their chances of scoring more goals in league games."

I certainly think this is all good advice for Mr. Hurst to take notice of. An IA is never wrong (until they they create Skynet and take over the world, that is...)  


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It's not the lack of forward players who can score goals. For me it's the formation, tactics and where you play these players.

Lloyd and McAtee could easily bag 15+ goals in an attacking team. Add to that the likes of Holohan and Clifton who can bag a few, Waterfall will always get the odd 1. Plus any others I may have missed but in my opinion those I've missed, although may get the odd goal, aren't good enough to help push us up the league.
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Quoted from lukeo
It's not the lack of forward players who can score goals. For me it's the formation, tactics and where you play these players.

Lloyd and McAtee could easily bag 15+ goals in an attacking team. Add to that the likes of Holohan and Clifton who can bag a few, Waterfall will always get the odd 1. Plus any others I may have missed but in my opinion those I've missed, although may get the odd goal, aren't good enough to help push us up the league.


As every day passes I’m convinced you live in a parallel universe, the players we have in attack just aren’t good enough, dead easy!


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Lloyd is definitely good enough, in my opinion, to be in a top end of league 2 side. I guess only time will tell. Mcatee I'd say league 1 (no way will he play regularly for Luton, but who knows)
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A parallel universe is probably the only place where we would beat the mighty Hartlepool!
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Chat GPT still thinks we are non-league. It's living over a year in the past.


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Quoted from lukeo
Lloyd is definitely good enough, in my opinion, to be in a top end of league 2 side. I guess only time will tell. Mcatee I'd say league 1 (no way will he play regularly for Luton, but who knows)


Based on this season, McAtee is League 2 because he plays for himself. Too many good situations wasted because he doesn’t look around him.
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Quoted from lukeo
Lloyd is definitely good enough, in my opinion, to be in a top end of league 2 side. I guess only time will tell. Mcatee I'd say league 1 (no way will he play regularly for Luton, but who knows)


Both would be (potentially) really good playing in a side with better players.


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Quoted from lukeo
Lloyd is definitely good enough, in my opinion, to be in a top end of league 2 side. I guess only time will tell. Mcatee I'd say league 1 (no way will he play regularly for Luton, but who knows)


He's ok probably better than most of the young players Hurst brings in but I think we need someone more physical up front but how many games does Hurst actually start with two strikers.
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Was just looking up the stats, did you know weve only had 6 headed goals all season? And those wont necessarily all have been from corners. Thats probably as big of a miss for us from last season as mcatees goals have been. Seems an atrocious stat that for a team that ought to have been focusing on set peice goals missing an in-form striker the whole season

The odd thing is aswell, were only about 10 goals scored behind 1st and 2nd in the league, but weve conceded twice as many. And our home defence stats are woeful really. Not sure why i felt that we were fairly solid at the back, definately think itd be worth bolstering that back line over the summer
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Don't think it's the back four that is the problem, we are too lightweight in midfield and easily over run, as was the case Friday
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It might help if we passed it to each other. Also if every timecwe kick off we play it the same spot on the pitch. Or we could take corners that get further than the front post. Link up play is almost non existence.
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Quoted from mimma
Don't think it's the back four that is the problem, we are too lightweight in midfield and easily over run, as was the case Friday


Looking at the goals yesterday and a fair number this season the back, 3,4 or 5 have been the problem.
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Looking at the goals yesterday and a fair number this season the back, 3,4 or 5 have been the problem.


A lot of goals conceded this season have been as a result of poor defending in our right back area.
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I think it’s a bit of a puzzle that our full backs have frequently been done for goals conceded and yet I do rate Efete, Emmanuel, Amos and Ringo Starr and would still say they’re all good enough. When they’ve been good, they’ve been really good, but, I suppose, the conclusion has to be that their consistency and evidence of high standards/true ability has been sadly lacking. Think this is most visible in Glennon.


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A lot of goals conceded this season have been as a result of poor defending in our right back area.


It's both full back positions really. Look at Bradford's third last week - lost the ball in a promising position in the top half of the pitch, they immediately spread it out to our left, easily get a cross in past Glennon and they're 3-2 up. This week it was Efete's turn to act like a turnstile. I'm not sure any of our full-backs are competent enough defenders to play regularly in League Two.


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If they can’t be more consistent, then they’re not.


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It's both full back positions really. Look at Bradford's third last week - lost the ball in a promising position in the top half of the pitch, they immediately spread it out to our left, easily get a cross in past Glennon and they're 3-2 up. This week it was Efete's turn to act like a turnstile. I'm not sure any of our full-backs are competent enough defenders to play regularly in League Two.


Efete was at fault for three out of four at home to Salford and at least two yesterday. I have no doubt that he’s a great athlete but he has no sense of football awareness. It can’t be coached.
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A lot of goals conceded this season have been as a result of poor defending in our right back area.


and left back and down the centre and in the air and on the ground
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Efete was at fault for three out of four at home to Salford and at least two yesterday. I have no doubt that he’s a great athlete but he has no sense of football awareness. It can’t be coached.


Considering his two recent goals, play him up front😉
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Considering his two recent goals, play him up front😉


That’s not as ridiculous as it sounds.
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That’s not as ridiculous as it sounds.


The Chat GPT says this after being asked " Would Michee Efete make a good striker?"

As an AI language model, I don't have access to current information about individual player performance beyond what was available in my knowledge cutoff in September 2021. Additionally, determining whether someone would make a good striker requires analyzing their physical attributes, technical skills, and tactical understanding, as well as their ability to adapt to different game situations.

That being said, Michee Efete is a professional football player who has primarily played as a defender in his career, so it is unclear whether he has the necessary skills and attributes to play as a striker. However, it is possible for players to switch positions and adapt to new roles on the field, depending on their individual strengths and the needs of their team. Ultimately, whether or not Efete would make a good striker would depend on a variety of factors, including his own abilities and potential, as well as the needs and strategies of the team he plays for.


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It's both full back positions really. Look at Bradford's third last week - lost the ball in a promising position in the top half of the pitch, they immediately spread it out to our left, easily get a cross in past Glennon and they're 3-2 up. This week it was Efete's turn to act like a turnstile. I'm not sure any of our full-backs are competent enough defenders to play regularly in League Two.


Amos had come on when Bradford got there third.. tho tbf Glennon had struggled down that side before he was subbed..
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That’s not as ridiculous as it sounds.


At least he would be out the way where his mess ups are not critical
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