Your New Stadium - Would you want Safe Standing?

yes i would love it i look at dortmunds ground with awe

Quoted from hertfordshire mariner

any place anywhere. not just football. glastonbury fest 150,000 all standing, often in very bad conditions. when was the last death there due to crushing/tripping???

it hasn't happened at EVERY club either doesn't mean it can't happen. I'm sure there are the odd one or two at these festivals that have been crushed but we've not heard or researched into it.

I see your point aaron, but there's risk in everything, standing imho creates a better atmosphere and should be brought back, albeit with improved regulations etc etc

Quoted from hertfordshire mariner

any place anywhere. not just football. glastonbury fest 150,000 all standing, often in very bad conditions. when was the last death there due to crushing/tripping???

But just cos there hasn't been big disasters at a football ground formany years that doesn't mean it can't happen, look at those 6 best mates who went to ibrox in 1971 all from same street they was best mates and 1 made it back alive, one of the boys mum was reluctant to let her son go but him and his best mates persuaded her, he was 13 and he never came back alive, I've made alot of friends with lads who i see at town games, you don't expect it but it can happen, sorry for the harrowing story but its true and only because you don't expect it that doesn't mean it won't happen, your friends could be killed, anybody, you hope it doesn't happen but it could

Sorry for the harrowing story about Peter easton and the other 4 boys who died but its true, it can happen anywhere anytime, god forbid any of my friends die at a football game  actually god forbid anybody Die at a football game

Quoted from Gary Haddock

it hasn't happened at EVERY club either doesn't mean it can't happen. I'm sure there are the odd one or two at these festivals that have been crushed but we've not heard or researched into it.

i never said it it couldnt happen and it has and i have researched it and hold qualifications in crowd management. my point is standing at football is no more dangerous than walking down the street, things have changed massively since the 80s and 90s and something as terrible as hillsbrough could not happen again in england with or without standing.

No perimeter fences anymore, therefore Hillsborough couldn't happen again because if a stand became overcrowded the spectators have somewhere to go.

Quoted from hertfordshire mariner

i never said it it couldnt happen and it has and i have researched it and hold qualifications in crowd management. my point is standing at football is no more dangerous than walking down the street, things have changed massively since the 80s and 90s and something as terrible as hillsbrough could not happen again in england with or without standing.

It could but not the same circumstances, hillsborough happend against the big fences, something can easily happen now against advertising boards or against crush barriers ect or just on the floor, easily done

Quoted from aaron rattray

It could but not the same circumstances, hillsborough happend against the big fences, something can easily happen now against advertising boards or against crush barriers ect or just on the floor, easily done

but that could happen in a all seater ground to. like i said standing at football with the proper controls in place is no more dangerous than walking down the street. infact walking down oxford street in london on a sat afternoon is more dangerous!! lol

Just because perimeter fences has gonethat doesnt mean that there can't be a big crush with loads of people killed, you could get crushed  to death on a train, outside a football ground, inside a football ground, outside cinema, absolutely anywhere and that will never ever change it is impossible to get rid of every risk

It could even happen at wembley