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chaos33
October 15, 2015, 8:44pm
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Some really interesting talking points in this thread. I agree with several but tend to agree with RRFC generally I think. I do believe the side was weakened in terms of goal threat, even if Hurst felt he was improving it. I'm also interested in the idea that the results improved with Tomlinson in the side. We only won two out of five did we not?


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We'd won 2 out of 7 or 8 before that and lost twice.
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Much tougher run of games too. We definitely tightened up but with the downside of not scoring as much. We'll never know if we would have won more points with Bogle/Amond up front against FGR, Wrexham, Braintree etc. I think it was the loss to Altrincham that started the pack shuffling by Hurst.
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Yeah ok, to be fair that's right I suppose, if a bit of a crude IMO. Hard to make a proper comparison really because Tomlinson didn't play 7 or 8 games, and it's not just about him is it. Lots of variables. I think, generally speaking, we've been drawing too many games and not winning enough. No point going back over old ground again now.


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No but there certainly isn't evidence to support the idea that his inclusion significantly weakened us. His run of starts included some tough games as well. Maybe his inclusion steadied us as much as anything and hopefully we can now extend the unbeaten run with more wins than draws.
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Yeah ok, to be fair that's right I suppose, if a bit of a crude IMO. Hard to make a proper comparison really because Tomlinson didn't play 7 or 8 games, and it's not just about him is it. Lots of variables. I think, generally speaking, we've been drawing too many games and not winning enough. No point going back over old ground again now.


I agree it's crude and but after Altrincham he made lots of changes; too many if you ask me and Pittman, then Tommo were preferred to Bogle in general and Amond in particular for a good few games. Pittman of course took his chance and Amond couldn't get back in, with Tommo being preferred to Bogle. I'm of the opinion that too many changes were made, not just in attack but we'll never know if they were the correct calls or not.

Too many draws as you say but at least we haven't lost many and over a season all those 1 points add up, keeping us in contention for when that winning run happens. Still think he should have stuck with Bogle and Amond and rode it out though.
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Yes I do too, although there was clearly a case for Tomlinson playing in some of those games.


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Yes I do too, although there was clearly a case for Tomlinson playing in some of those games.


I wonder if his natural cautiousness led him to feel some games, like Wrexham, were 'must not lose'. Maybe if we'd been more positive we'd have picked up more points but we'll never know. Ultimately, one way or another we're on a good run, climbing the table and getting closer to FGR. Just need to keep going.
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Yeah I think you're right on all counts there RM.


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Agree with most of these. Tomlinson was probably used for his defensive capabilities against the good teams so we didn't lose, something which might've continued with Podge and Bogle, despite possibly winning more. Have a feeling the main two will be used from now on, especially against the weaker teams.


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