Ahkeem Rose

Wait a minute on this one.....did a 17 year old called Wayne Rooney have to bide his time, learn his trade and wait for an opportunity to show the masses his capabilities??....No, his manager saw a young, raw talent and threw him at the deep end where he could have either sank or swam..and by hell did he take that opportunity and swim!!!.So never mind this developing malarkey, sometimes the best way to develop a player is to unleash the shackles and just let him go, if he struggles put an arm round him, then let him fly again...Right now, at this club we need pace, guile, trickery and someone who has a point to prove that he knows where the flipping back of the net is,...because the only person who seems to know right now is Danny Collins(sorry DC)...

Wayne Rooney (who was 16) was good enough to play in the division his team were in. MJ obviously feels Rose isn't.

Quoted from Abdul19

Wayne Rooney (who was 16) was good enough to play in the division his team were in. MJ obviously feels Rose isn't.

Exactly this.

Players develop at different rates and different ages. Rooney was ready to play in a first team at that level a 16, others don't develop to the level they're at until early 20s (21/22).

And not just physically (which is an obvious difference Rooney had at 16 to most).

Quoted from Abdul19

Wayne Rooney (who was 16) was good enough to play in the division his team were in. MJ obviously feels Rose isn't.

To stand corrected, I was actually on about Fergie taking him from Everton and throwing him in at the deep end of uniteds front line....
So why have someone on your books you don't think is good enough,??...it's not as though Rose is an apprentice, learning how to use his tools before being let out into the big bad world...if MJ thinks that one day he'll cut it,  loan him out, give him the opportunity to ply his trade then bring him back or let him leave....In the same way none of us have really talked about Max Wright, where on earth has disappeared to??smashed them in for Scarborough, comes back, probable expecting to at least get on the bench and he's ended up in the wilderness as far as I can gather

No way near ready for a starting berth at this stage.  He's got some serious potential with his pace, believe me it's frightening just how quick he is, especially over 10 yards.  

He needs schooling on where and when to move as the times I've seen him he doesn't really know but with a good mentor that'll come.

I would have no issue with him coming on for 20 minutes if we're 2-0 up to gain experience but not for anything else at this stage.

Rooney was a top-class player with innate vision and awareness of what was going on around him on the field even at a young age. This is the sort of thing that most lower division players never achieve, regardless of how hard they train or how much they play.

My guess is that A. Rose has the physical attributes required but is currently lacking much of an awareness about the game. It doesn't matter how quick or skilful you are if you're always running the wrong way or standing in the wrong place and it doesn't matter if you're a good finisher if you never get the ball in a position where you can shoot.

I'd imagine they are working hard with him in training, but it can't have helped that he hasn't been able to play many games until recently due to his visa status. It will be good if he develops enough to get some experience as a sub this season but no point in throwing him into the team based on the hope he might do something.

Quoted from diehardmariner

No way near ready for a starting berth at this stage.  He's got some serious potential with his pace, believe me it's frightening just how quick he is, especially over 10 yards.  

He needs schooling on where and when to move as the times I've seen him he doesn't really know but with a good mentor that'll come.

I would have no issue with him coming on for 20 minutes if we're 2-0 up to gain experience but not for anything else at this stage.

Remember Big Keith Alexander? he never had a clue where or what he was doing lol. sometimes its what can make them effective.
Certainly a good option for the bench. raw pace.

There's only one thing comparable with Rose and Rooney. The fact that Rooney was once a young player signed to a football club, and Rose currently is!

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

To stand corrected, I was actually on about Fergie taking him from Everton and throwing him in at the deep end of uniteds front line....

An even more baffling example then as he was a £30m (18 year old) player who had just scored 4 goals at the euros!

Rooney went on to be Englands all time top goal scorer.

Comparing Rose to him is a bit of a strange one