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Agree with most of those verdicts but Wrexham are absolutely not a bigger club than us.
Agree, I went to edit that, but it won't let me edit the bit in the quote. They're similarly supported to us though.
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Agree with most of those verdicts but Wrexham are absolutely not a bigger club than us.
He has been a bit selective with that list.Rotherham - not much change except they have spent more time in both the Championship and league 1, are now poised to go back to the Championship and have a lovely brand new beautifully designed stadium.
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He has been a bit selective with that list.Rotherham - not much change except they have spent more time in both the Championship and league 1, are now poised to go back to the Championship and have a lovely brand new beautifully designed stadium.
They are a bigger club than us, have a much larger fan base plus larger potential fan base and consequently have more potential to ride out going into administration.
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They are a bigger club than us, have a much larger fan base plus larger potential fan base and consequently have more potential to ride out going into administration.
They are now. These things move over time - usually the clubs that have been invested in or run well suddenly become "bigger clubs than us" There are any number of clubs who now are in higher division with a bigger fan base that were smaller than GTFC at one time. The trouble with us is that we have remained at such a low base for so long we now think of most of our contemporaries as "bigger clubs"
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£5million pounds to be spent (including £2million from us ) repairing Corporation Road bridge. Council and ENGIE to work closely together. £5million FFS
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February 29, 2020, 11:27am |
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They are now. These things move over time - usually the clubs that have been invested in or run well suddenly become "bigger clubs than us"
There are any number of clubs who now are in higher division with a bigger fan base that were smaller than GTFC at one time. The trouble with us is that we have remained at such a low base for so long we now think of most of our contemporaries as "bigger clubs"
I'd say the problem with us is that we think because we punched above our weight for quite a long time, that we consider our contemporaries as being similar to us. When the financial problems hit us, our impact was much worse than teams that could recover quickly with a large fan base. Of course, lots of mistakes contributed to our downfall, but to say we'd have been better off going into administration, when the vast majority of clubs have not got back to where they were before going into administration and some doing significantly worse, is not looking at things objectively. 2 of the 3 clubs that have done better since administration have had billionaires funding them.
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Is fan base a true measure of how to gauge success both on the pitch and financially? I’d argue it’s not...
Several of those clubs didn’t have fan bases that could subsidise the large debts, but they were forward thinking and had a vision, made themselves a sellable proposition.
I can’t be arsed to go through average attendances but I’d argue that Rotherham for example likely had similar attendances to us...
Fact is, bringing up the issue of ITV is futile now. Most people who want to see the back of Fenty will acknowledge the difficulties the club encountered back then...it’s the flipping shitshow of a circus that has followed.
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I'd say the problem with us is that we think because we punched above our weight for quite a long time, that we consider our contemporaries as being similar to us. When the financial problems hit us, our impact was much worse than teams that could recover quickly with a large fan base. Of course, lots of mistakes contributed to our downfall, but to say we'd have been better off going into administration, when the vast majority of clubs have not got back to where they were before going into administration and some doing significantly worse, is not looking at things objectively. 2 of the 3 clubs that have done better since administration have had billionaires funding them.
I dont have a view either way about whether its best to go into administration or not. Iv'e said before that Mr Fenty had to make the decision the best he could at the time. That doesn't excuse what has happened since though. There are quite a few clubs who historically got similar gates to us that are now "bigger" and the reasons for that are varied, but most, if not all have gone through very bad periods with very low crowds.
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But the reason they’ve increased fan base and their profile, as well seeing an upward turn in fortunes on the pitch is that they learned from mistakes, they had a clear vision, they didn’t excuse make and say ‘we punched above our weight...3k ST is plenty’ blah blah...
They put themselves out there and evolved and moved forward. We on the other hand...
Remember when Fenty offered pearls of wisdom to Lincoln on avoiding the drop...they went down. Have they asked his advice since? I think we all know the answer to that.
You have to learn from mistakes...we seemingly find that really hard.
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But the reason they’ve increased fan base and their profile, as well seeing an upward turn in fortunes on the pitch is that they learned from mistakes, they had a clear vision, they didn’t excuse make and say ‘we punched above our weight...3k ST is plenty’ blah blah...
They put themselves out there and evolved and moved forward. We on the other hand...
Remember when Fenty offered pearls of wisdom to Lincoln on avoiding the drop...they went down. Have they asked his advice since? I think we all know the answer to that.
You have to learn from mistakes...we seemingly find that really hard.
It's Fenty's fault Lincoln went down now. WOW!
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