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Gutted - but probably the correct decision. Not sure what i'll do tomorrow afternoon.
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A bit more time for those with injuries to recover
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Surely by April the fourth the situation will be worse so it looks like they will have to write off this season.
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Surely by April the fourth the situation will be worse so it looks like they will have to write off this season.
Cannot see any reason it would resume on that date.
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It says "all ELITE football matches postponed"... so I guess Scunthorpe game still on
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I've never seen this happen, even with the SARS virus back in 2002 and the Foot n Mouth outbreaks. This is radical. The schools will have to close also.
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They have to close the schools, it’s the only way to slow it down.
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They have to close the schools, it’s the only way to slow it down.
Maybe later but not yet. From yesterday: "Closing schools would also have a major impact on families and could also mean they need to be looked after by grandparents - the most vulnerable of catching coronavirus."
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They have to close the schools, it’s the only way to slow it down.
Right or wrong but the Government's slant on this at the moment is that a lot of children would then have to be looked after by their grandparents which would put the grandparents at more risk.
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Said on the BBC new this morning that If/when schools shut, then this could be for up to 4 months. To cover the expected peak (and presumably the reduction in cases).
I cannot see matches being rescheduled then, even with the best of intentions now. If they were played in the summer then this would impact on next season.
Just write-off this season and relegate Stevenage. Put them out of the heir misery.
Leeds have waited 16 years to get back into the Prem. another year (at least) won’t make any difference! 😁😁
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I've never seen this happen, even with the SARS virus back in 2002 and the Foot n Mouth outbreaks. This is radical. The schools will have to close also.
You may never have seen it but it happened during the war. Football was suspended from about 1940 to the 45/46 season I think (I could be wrong about the dates).
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Rather than try to shut it down completely then have recurrences, they plan to stretch it out so that the peak of cases come in the summer months when there will be less flu and so forth to cope with at the same time: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51865915Might also give them more of a chance to obtain more oxygen gear for those most adversely affected. Seems a bit of a gamble to me and I'm not sure it is one which will work, unless they discover that one of the pre-existing retroviral drugs can help. With the Easter holidays just a couple of weeks away, it would surely make more sense to shut the schools down now and effectively have 4 weeks off/in isolation? Try and stop it dead now then deal with any other outbreaks in the same way as countries such as Singapore/Hong Kong/Taiwan. Ultimately, we're going to be living under a cloud for many months yet.
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It says "all ELITE football matches postponed"... so I guess Scunthorpe game still on
A low blow, but funny
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Can't say that I see any chance of the season finishing, incidentally.
I'm sure the wrangling about promotion/relegation will begin very soon.
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If the season is curtailed will we get a refund from the BBC as they will save over a million quid from Linneker and Shearer's wages. Methinks they will still get paid
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Sensible option really, ignorance and arrogance has got the UK in this mess, and now we're playing catch up!...... very unlikely that the season will be restarted before June. Do we just refinish the season off in July/ August, have a month off, and begin a new season in October, with Saturday and midweek games to catch up, and abandon all these other mickey mouse cup games?
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Right or wrong but the Government's slant on this at the moment is that a lot of children would then have to be looked after by their grandparents which would put the grandparents at more risk.
The Easter hols are due to start in early April so I’d guess they would try to get as close to that as they can. Like you say, somebody has to look after the kids.
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If the season is curtailed will we get a refund from the BBC as they will save over a million quid from Linneker and Shearer's wages. Methinks they will still get paid
The BBC is one thing but small businesses are going to be majorly impacted if there are widespread forced closures. I'm a member of a small gym and I'm not going to cancel my subscription if I can afford it. I'd rather continue paying them even if they close for a while, to keep them in business. If everybody cancels their monthly sub, the place will close down and then we won't have one at all in my area.
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Well aint that EFFING typical!
A few weeks ago I was told I had won two tickets for the Cambridge match, which gives me a good enough reason to get my sorry @rse back to Grimsby. Ho hum, life goes on...hopefully.
But if theres one good thing that MIGHT come out of this 3 weeks lay off is that all injuries will have hopefully healed and we could be back up to full strength, should matches resume on 04/04....away to Newport!!!
If they dont resume then, and if the virus is still doing the rounds, then even Ollies 'Warm weather camp' may be in doubt if he cant get over to the Continent.
Stay safe people.
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Don't understand the clamour to close the schools. If they do, the NHS and public services will be stuffed. I think it might be time to listen to the experts, rather than demand that Something Must Be Done.
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Maybe later but not yet. From yesterday:
"Closing schools would also have a major impact on families and could also mean they need to be looked after by grandparents - the most vulnerable of catching coronavirus."
Not only that but how many people with children work for the NHS, GP surgeries and the social care services? If their children are at home then a lot of those parents will have to be off work to care for them. That would stretch the whole social and medical care systems to beyond their effective limits.
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If matches are played in the warmer weather the gates might go up increasing revenue so the powers that be just might change the timing of the season. Football may never be the same in the future.
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Government advice is, no need for this. So not sure I agree with the need to suspend everything, at least not yet.
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I think it really threatens some club's existence because their cashflow will dry up. The likes of Macc and Oldham could be in even deeper sh*t than they are now. There's 5 home games left and we could expect about 4000 people paying about £20 each at each game (take away season ticket money already in the bank). That's a lot of money out of your cashflow and some might not be able to swallow that for 2 months or so.
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Said on the BBC new this morning that If/when schools shut, then this could be for up to 4 months. To cover the expected peak (and presumably the reduction in cases).
I cannot see matches being rescheduled then, even with the best of intentions now. If they were played in the summer then this would impact on next season.
Just write-off this season and relegate Stevenage. Put them out of the heir misery.
Leeds have waited 16 years to get back into the Prem. another year (at least) won’t make any difference! 😁😁
Can you imagine if they simply make this season null and void?!! Liverpool's drought NOT over. Leeds STILL in the Championship. Bury resubmitted?!! There's even talk of the EUROs happening without the teams in the playoffs - that would mean Ireland, Northern Ireland and Scotland all missing out! Every cloud, I suppose. I just hope GTFC can deal with the financial blow. I know there's bigger things to worry about, but that is a concern.
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Well aint that EFFING typical!
A few weeks ago I was told I had won two tickets for the Cambridge match, which gives me a good enough reason to get my sorry @rse back to Grimsby. Ho hum, life goes on...hopefully.
But if theres one good thing that MIGHT come out of this 3 weeks lay off is that all injuries will have hopefully healed and we could be back up to full strength, should matches resume on 04/04....away to Newport!!!
If they dont resume then, and if the virus is still doing the rounds, then even Ollies 'Warm weather camp' may be in doubt if he cant get over to the Continent.
Stay safe people.
Cant see any possibility of that occurring considering the peak is 10-14 weeks away.
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I think it would make more sense to close cinemas and theatres first rather than outdoor sporting events That said of course football matches would almost certainly be postponed in large numbers anyway as players, and therefore squads, get the virus
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Government advice is, no need for this. So not sure I agree with the need to suspend everything, at least not yet.
The PL will have tried to carry on but with players and staff been affected its just not practicable. They have suspended for a short time to see if the league can resume-if not they will be hit by massive penalty clauses by the broadcasters if the season is curtailed. Correct decision-it cannot make a dire situation any worse by suspending large gatherings.
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Typical I was coming up for the match this weekend aaaarrrggghh
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The PL will have tried to carry on but with players and staff been affected its just not practicable. They have suspended for a short time to see if the league can resume-if not they will be hit by massive penalty clauses by the broadcasters if the season is curtailed. Correct decision-it cannot make a dire situation any worse by suspending large gatherings.
I don’t disagree with you, only stating the health experts advice, so why invent your own precautions, as this sort of thing creates other problems within our society. I’m obviously no expert. So we, in my opinion, should follow the experts advice.
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Right or wrong but the Government's slant on this at the moment is that a lot of children would then have to be looked after by their grandparents which would put the grandparents at more risk.
We need more data on just how much transmission is kid related as opposed to workplaces, public transport, poor hygeine etc. While essential workers, like NHS, can carry on working without childcare stress so be it. If Schools are closed then what happens to indoor play centres and public playgrounds? When my four grandkids come to me I will be avoiding both! They are past the nappy stage so it will be a Swallows and Amazons regime in the Peak District building dens and damming streams. Grandma has reduced immunity after cancer treatment so she will be i/c crafts, cookery and planting seeds.
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I don’t disagree with you, only stating the health experts advice, so why invent your own precautions, as this sort of thing creates other problems within our society. I’m obviously no expert. So we, in my opinion, should follow the experts advice.
Agree. The PL have postponed the schedule due to the practicalities. Personally I believe that large gatherings should be halted-not only on medical grounds but to relieve the burden on other services.
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Government didn't advise to suspend mass activities because there's no medical evidence that it would have an impact.
But what we do know is that even relatively small events like the game that would have gone ahead tomorrow at Blundell Park put a strain on essential services. You multiply that across everything that's going on and it's clear to see that this is a sensible decision. How would you feel if a loved one couldn't get the medical attention needed, but a football game went ahead and took some resources away?
Footballers and staff are cropping up all over the place as displaying the virus symptoms, the environment in which they work means they're more likely to pass it onto a peer.
It's a no-brainer.
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Ok, ok. BUT surely they need to take into account that I’ve now got to stay at home with the wife.......
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Ok, ok. BUT surely they need to take into account that I’ve now got to stay at home with the wife.......
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Government didn't advise to suspend mass activities because there's no medical evidence that it would have an impact.
But what we do know is that even relatively small events like the game that would have gone ahead tomorrow at Blundell Park put a strain on essential services. You multiply that across everything that's going on and it's clear to see that this is a sensible decision. How would you feel if a loved one couldn't get the medical attention needed, but a football game went ahead and took some resources away?
Footballers and staff are cropping up all over the place as displaying the virus symptoms, the environment in which they work means they're more likely to pass it onto a peer.
It's a no-brainer.
Unless supermarkets are closed down, people are prevented from receiving delivered parcels and packaging, workplaces with large workforces are closed, I cannot understand how shutting sporting events down for a few weeks is going to make a blind bit of difference other than a bit of grandstanding. Closing down football for example would account for 0.000000000000000000001% of all human contact. Either put everything on lockdown for a month or carry on as normal wihile taking health precautions. This just seems to be a self inflicted fudge at the moment where, peoples lives are affected, companies are getting obliterated and yet the precautions taken so far will have minimal impact on virus spread in the scheme of things. Came into more close contact with people at my local supermarket this morning than going to half a dozen football matches..
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Question - Would this decision have been made if nobody connected to the Prem had been affected by the virus??
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Unless supermarkets are closed down, people are prevented from receiving delivered parcels and packaging, workplaces with large workforces are closed, I cannot understand how shutting sporting events down for a few weeks is going to make a blind bit of difference other than a bit of grandstanding. Closing down football for example would account for 0.000000000000000000001% of all human contact. Either put everything on lockdown for a month or carry on as normal wihile taking health precautions. This just seems to be a self inflicted fudge at the moment where, peoples lives are affected, companies are getting obliterated and yet the precautions taken so far will have minimal impact on virus spread in the scheme of things. Came into more close contact with people at my local supermarket this morning than going to half a dozen football matches..
That's because its not been done on medical grounds. Its the practicalities of continuing with players and staff been affected & its to reduce the burden of other services which are used at said events. The government would no doubt have shut those events down in the comings weeks.
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That's because its not been done on medical grounds. Its the practicalities of continuing with players and staff been affected & its to reduce the burden of other services which are used at said events. The government would no doubt have shut those events down in the comings weeks.
The EFL said: "This decision has not been taken lightly, but the EFL must prioritise the health and well-being of players, staff and supporters while also acknowledging the government's national efforts in tackling this outbreak." It is on medical grounds too. Haven't seen anything yet that's going to make any more than 1% difference to the spread of the virus. I'm not saying the government is wrong with its stance at present, and well-intentioned panic measures taken independently by non-governmental bodies aren't going to make a blind bit of difference to contagion and will add to longer lasting devastating effects to the economy and peoples' lives by adding to the panic. We should either be on full lockdown or carry on as normal. Anything in the middle and everyone's a loser..
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The EFL said: "This decision has not been taken lightly, but the EFL must prioritise the health and well-being of players, staff and supporters while also acknowledging the government's national efforts in tackling this outbreak."
It is on medical grounds too. Haven't seen anything yet that's going to make any more than 1% difference to the spread of the virus. I'm not saying the government is wrong with its stance at present, and well-intentioned panic measures taken independently by non-governmental bodies aren't going to make a blind bit of difference to contagion and will add to longer lasting devastating effects to the economy and peoples' lives by adding to the panic. We should either be on full lockdown or carry on as normal. Anything in the middle and everyone's a loser..
The EFL have a responsibility to all those parties. The government yesterday said: Mass gatherings The government believes that banning large gatherings is one of the least effective measures a country can take, reducing the peak of the coronavirus by less than 5%. The virus is just as likely to spread within a smaller group such as those watching football in the pub as it would in a large crowd.If you watch the experts yesterday it explains about timing of restrictions ie its not all or nothing.
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Incorrect. The government yesterday said:
Mass gatherings The government believes that banning large gatherings is one of the least effective measures a country can take, reducing the peak of the coronavirus by less than 5%. The virus is just as likely to spread within a smaller group such as those watching football in the pub as it would in a large crowd.
I agree with you re the government's stance and completely get that, but it wasn't what I was getting at. I was quoting the EFL's statement which contradicts the government somewhat. Government advice underlines how ineffectual the cancellation of fixtures will be..
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Strange to postpone this weekend games on the day before,
I am watching Cheltenham with about 70,000 + people there,
Tomorrow Wales v Scotland will be played in front of 70,000 fans,
Yet we can not play in front of 4,800 or so,
Never mind we might go back to the good old days of my youth and play Good Friday , Saturday and Easter Monday.
The only problem then will be the problem will be worse so they will end the season as it stands.
Which will leave several clubs in dire straights and we could have another 3 or 4 going bust.
What are we going to do until next season whenever that might start ?
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This is simply a practical decision based on the increasingly unmitigated spread between players and staff. No one can sanction an event with a possible health hazard, whether to the participants or their families and friends.
Probably a good thing that they've simply shut it down as games played behind closed doors wouldn't have made much difference.
The real headaches will start with sorting out what happens to players' contracts if we were to attempt to finish the season in the summer; what happens to the transfer window and how clubs are going to be able to pay wages during the next two months.
Crazy times.
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The problem is that if the virus is so easily passed on in a variety of ways, touching or coughing or sneezing, then it doesnt matter how many people are in a crowd, 3000 or 70000, there only has to be one person with it and it will be spread further, and then those who have caught it unknowingly will maybe nip to the pub afterwards, or head off home to the wife and kids, and then the kids head off to school next week.......etc etc etc
Best to lock the gate before the horse bolts.
This is when we need some words of wisdom from Ollie in his own inimitable style.
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Can see a few pubs going under when more people start avoiding public places when the situation gets worse.
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It's a huge mess for football finances. This season will have to be finished one way or another (either by extending season to end of June or by reconvening in July/August and delaying the 2020/21 season. The integrity of the English league system would be irreparably damaged if this season is not completed.
When and under what format the 2020/21 starts is anyone's guess. But it could end up being a shortened season:-
League season reduced to 34 fixtures in EFL and 28 fixtures in Premier League? Scrap EFL Trophy for the season? No Premier League clubs in EFL Cup? No FA Cup replays in any round? UEFA competitions straight knock-out rather than 2 legs? Anything to squeeze next season into whatever time they have.
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It's a huge mess for football finances. This season will have to be finished one way or another (either by extending season to end of June or by reconvening in July/August and delaying the 2020/21 season. The integrity of the English league system would be irreparably damaged if this season is not completed.
When and under what format the 2020/21 starts is anyone's guess. But it could end up being a shortened season:-
League season reduced to 34 fixtures in EFL and 28 fixtures in Premier League? Scrap EFL Trophy for the season? No Premier League clubs in EFL Cup? No FA Cup replays in any round? UEFA competitions straight knock-out rather than 2 legs? Anything to squeeze next season into whatever time they have.
I would like all these to happen anyway!
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I would like all these to happen anyway!
Another possibility is for the whole of Europe to shift their season to November to August for seasons 2020/21 & 2021/22 as a 2-year experiment. Euro 2020 could be played August & September after the Olympics. It would fit in with the World Cup in 2022 being November & December. If it doesn't work there could be a shortened 2022/23 season (November to June) followed by returning to traditional calendar for 2023/24. If it does work then that's the new football season. That might sound a daft suggestion, but games are going to have to be lost at some point.
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There's about 8-10 games left more most clubs realistically that could be done in about 3 and a half weeks although there is the FA cup as well.
You could scrap the EFL cup and the League cup and start the season later. Play more games in Midweek. How many Tuesday games have we had this season - in reality very few.
However since I've got an awful lot of friends who support Leeds and Liverpool I would like to see this season voided. Like the 1939-40 season - it never happened.
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If we are all not going to follow government “expert” advice, then why bother having them? Obviously the football world are more qualified, I presume?
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If we are all not going to follow government “expert” advice, then why bother having them? Obviously the football world are more qualified, I presume?
To be fair the Government aren't following experts - theyre allowing the Local Elections to go ahead despite the Electoral Commission telling them not too - MORONS
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To be fair the Government aren't following experts - theyre allowing the Local Elections to go ahead despite the Electoral Commission telling them not too - MORONS
To be fair the Electoral Commission are experts in elections and not medical problems.
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Imagine all those at the Cheltenham races.
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It's a huge mess for football finances. This season will have to be finished one way or another (either by extending season to end of June or by reconvening in July/August and delaying the 2020/21 season. The integrity of the English league system would be irreparably damaged if this season is not completed.
When and under what format the 2020/21 starts is anyone's guess. But it could end up being a shortened season:-
League season reduced to 34 fixtures in EFL and 28 fixtures in Premier League? Scrap EFL Trophy for the season? No Premier League clubs in EFL Cup? No FA Cup replays in any round? UEFA competitions straight knock-out rather than 2 legs? Anything to squeeze next season into whatever time they have.
Agree with most of these points, with existing season being finished in July/ August, a month off and than the new season starts. Midweek games staggered throughout the week, tues/wed/thurs, every week for the new season. If things have settled down by then I think this is a viable solution.
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To be fair the Government aren't following experts - theyre allowing the Local Elections to go ahead despite the Electoral Commission telling them not too - MORONS
BREAKING NEWS.... Boris Johnson has postponed the 7 May mayoral and local elections due to the coronavirus outbreak.
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BREAKING NEWS....
Boris Johnson has postponed the 7 May mayoral and local elections due to the coronavirus outbreak.
About time too!
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Ok, ok. BUT surely they need to take into account that I’ve now got to stay at home with the wife.......
.... and even worse, I have to stay in with the Landlady!!!!
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To be fair the Government aren't following experts - theyre allowing the Local Elections to go ahead despite the Electoral Commission telling them not too - MORONS
That is complete 100% bollox!
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To be fair the Government aren't following experts - theyre allowing the Local Elections to go ahead despite the Electoral Commission telling them not too - MORONS
I think they've changed their mind on that now just a shame Coronavirus didn't all start before the General Election
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Unless supermarkets are closed down, people are prevented from receiving delivered parcels and packaging, workplaces with large workforces are closed, I cannot understand how shutting sporting events down for a few weeks is going to make a blind bit of difference other than a bit of grandstanding. Closing down football for example would account for 0.000000000000000000001% of all human contact. Either put everything on lockdown for a month or carry on as normal wihile taking health precautions. This just seems to be a self inflicted fudge at the moment where, peoples lives are affected, companies are getting obliterated and yet the precautions taken so far will have minimal impact on virus spread in the scheme of things. Came into more close contact with people at my local supermarket this morning than going to half a dozen football matches..
The precautions aren't about stopping the spread, they're about delaying it. The main factor will be people with symptoms having to isolate until the symptoms are gone. This is the most contagious part of the illness and keeps people away from others and spreading it. They've already moved past containment and into delay. Containment isn't possible, it's too wide spread already and the suggestions are it's far more widespread than the numbers are suggesting. This is about delaying the peak of the virus away from the NHS busy time, closer towards a vaccine and to protect the most vulnerable whilst the stronger portion of the population build up a herd immunity so the virus will eventually disappear without infecting the vulnerable. The projections on flattening the peak and pushing it out later make a staggering difference to the impact it has on society in terms of physical health.
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How are the club going to manage finanically during this hiatus? Should we be organising some sort of crowd funding?
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How are the club going to manage finanically during this hiatus? Should we be organising some sort of crowd funding?
Presume that's a joke?? Operation virus.
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And Philip Day, director and spokesperson for the Town board, has given his immediate reaction to the breaking news.
He said: “As far as Grimsby Town are concerned, a postponement of matches is preferable to playing behind closed doors because the latter would have a phenomenal financial effect on the club.
“We are a financially sound club which, at times like these, is very, very important.
“There will obviously be implications on cash flow because we won’t have any income in the next three weeks, but we can weather that storm.
“The EFL board are meeting next week so we’ll wait and listen to what they have to say.
“And then the Grimsby Town board will meet and we’ll have some decisions to make, but at the moment we’re a little bit up in the air.
“Hopefully if we can start playing again on April 4, we should be able to finish the season okay – we may just need to extend it for a little while.
“The 2020-21 season is due to start at the beginning of August but that could potentially be put back, so the EFL have got room for manoeuvre assuming we can start again on April 4.
“For people who have bought tickets for our upcoming four games, those tickets are still valid for those matches, but fans also have the option to get a refund for their tickets too.
“Please stick by us, continue to support us, and hopefully we’ll be all systems go and we’ll see you all at Newport County on April 4.”
Can't see any possibility of resuming on that date though.
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How are the club going to manage finanically during this hiatus? Should we be organising some sort of crowd funding?
It’s naturally a difficult time for crowdfunding, when people’s own finances are so uncertain. I heard it mooted that Premier League clubs should help to cover the shortfall of struggling lower league sides, but given the substantial loss of income they’re about to experience I don’t see them being in the mood for altruism. That said, I think the issue is bigger than just the last few home games. Technically, are the club expected to refund season ticket money for games that didn’t happen, and if this isn’t over until late summer what impact will it have on cash flow when it comes to new season ticket sales. Personally, I wouldn’t want any season ticket money back for the lost games (there needs to be an opt out option if the club are obliged to do so). Christ, it ain’t the club’s fault. And I’d probably still tentatively buy a season ticket so long as there was a reasonable proposition of a 20-21 season. Frankly, I’d there isn’t then the world’s shafted in such a significant way that it doesn’t matter anyway.
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It’s naturally a difficult time for crowdfunding, when people’s own finances are so uncertain. I heard it mooted that Premier League clubs should help to cover the shortfall of struggling lower league sides, but given the substantial loss of income they’re about to experience I don’t see them being in the mood for altruism.
That said, I think the issue is bigger than just the last few home games. Technically, are the club expected to refund season ticket money for games that didn’t happen, and if this isn’t over until late summer what impact will it have on cash flow when it comes to new season ticket sales.
Personally, I wouldn’t want any season ticket money back for the lost games (there needs to be an opt out option if the club are obliged to do so). Christ, it ain’t the club’s fault. And I’d probably still tentatively buy a season ticket so long as there was a reasonable proposition of a 20-21 season. Frankly, I’d there isn’t then the world’s shafted in such a significant way that it doesn’t matter anyway.
I think you’re right, poojah. Personally I’d pay for a ticket to each of the remaining home games even knowing they won’t take place if it meant keeping the club afloat, but not everyone has the luxury of managing to do the same. I was really looking forward to tomorrow too. I’ll be the first to admit I don’t go to every game, so there’s an even bigger void in my weekend this time. But, there are indeed more important things in life right now.
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How are the club going to manage finanically during this hiatus? Should we be organising some sort of crowd funding?
The club will manage, I am more worried about my son, who is 23 and a self-employed joiner, with a pregant girlfriend, max upto his limit on his overdraft. He has slowly been rebuilding his life, doing whatever work he can find, after he tried to end his life, after his ex stopped him from seeing his 4 month old son at the time. The courts still making him jump through hoops, as he tries to get access to his son. Due to him having a mental breakdown and being a bloke, got no support from any organisation during this difficult time. We had supported throughout, its been difficult, many a sleepless weekends, not knowing what might happen. He will not get any money from the Goverment, I just hope he does not have a elapse. I could not be prouder, how he has got over that difficult period in his life. Its hard enough being a carer, so GTFC on Saturday, volunteering was my release from the pressures of modern life. You my fishy friends, contributing on this forum, keep me going. We need to support each other, through the best football forum in the World. I look forward to what we might discuss during these non sport weeks. Keep your chins up, support each other. UTMM
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I put on another thread that it’d be better to buy shares.
Given the time we are through the season and the money that can be earned by clubs in all leagues* around Europe I feel it is best that the current season finishes and if any season is to be disrupted it is 2020/21. There is nothing to say we can’t finish this season in full and then play the Euros followed by a club competition to fill the gap the the next full European season starting in Aug 2021. Or even play two summer seasons up to the WC in 2022.
*appreciate this isn’t worded well but there’s considerable differences between TV money in L1 and L2 let alone Champ to PL. Promotion and relegation up for grabs.
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And Philip Day, director and spokesperson for the Town board, has given his immediate reaction to the breaking news.
He said: “As far as Grimsby Town are concerned, a postponement of matches is preferable to playing behind closed doors because the latter would have a phenomenal financial effect on the club.
“We are a financially sound club which, at times like these, is very, very important.
“There will obviously be implications on cash flow because we won’t have any income in the next three weeks, but we can weather that storm.
“The EFL board are meeting next week so we’ll wait and listen to what they have to say.
“And then the Grimsby Town board will meet and we’ll have some decisions to make, but at the moment we’re a little bit up in the air.
“Hopefully if we can start playing again on April 4, we should be able to finish the season okay – we may just need to extend it for a little while.
“The 2020-21 season is due to start at the beginning of August but that could potentially be put back, so the EFL have got room for manoeuvre assuming we can start again on April 4.
“For people who have bought tickets for our upcoming four games, those tickets are still valid for those matches, but fans also have the option to get a refund for their tickets too.
“Please stick by us, continue to support us, and hopefully we’ll be all systems go and we’ll see you all at Newport County on April 4.”
Can't see any possibility of resuming on that date though.
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How are the club going to manage finanically during this hiatus? Should we be organising some sort of crowd funding?
Just a thought wouldn't it be a good idea if everyone bought their tickets as normal and saved them until the games are played. This would help the club and fans would have something to show for it but still be able to get a refund if they can't make it on the new date. UTMM
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The club will manage, I am more worried about my son, who is 23 and a self-employed joiner, with a pregant girlfriend, max upto his limit on his overdraft. He has slowly been rebuilding his life, doing whatever work he can find, after he tried to end his life, after his ex stopped him from seeing his 4 month old son at the time. The courts still making him jump through hoops, as he tries to get access to his son.
Due to him having a mental breakdown and being a bloke, got no support from any organisation during this difficult time.
We had supported throughout, its been difficult, many a sleepless weekends, not knowing what might happen.
He will not get any money from the Goverment, I just hope he does not have a elapse.
I could not be prouder, how he has got over that difficult period in his life.
Its hard enough being a carer, so GTFC on Saturday, volunteering was my release from the pressures of modern life.
You my fishy friends, contributing on this forum, keep me going.
We need to support each other, through the best football forum in the World.
I look forward to what we might discuss during these non sport weeks.
Keep your chins up, support each other.
UTMM
Kids can be a worry sometimes. Not that you’d ever have it any other way. You worry about him. He worries about his. I’m sure he knows you’re behind him, and letting him know how proud you are has got to help. The cards do seem to be stacked against absent fathers (don’t know how it is for absent mothers - maybe it’s the same). There should be some teeth behind court orders which give the absent parent access. And you shouldn’t have to jump through hoops to enforce it.
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Crowdfund? What on earth for? Yes the club, other clubs, will be hit hard but given we’ve seen money going out to individuals and now Day saying we’re apparently financially safe, of any fundraising takes place it should be for those who own businesses which will see considerable losses.
Those on zero hours contracts, those with uncertain jobs, those in cafes, those who work at sporting events etc. Assuming they’ll shut schools at some point, what about those that will incur additional childcare costs.
It’s impossible to crowdfund for anything in this situation really, people just need to be understanding and help each other.
Saturdays will be boring for a few weeks, people will be on edge with the uncertainty but even if this season is abandoned (could cause a small riot for teams in or around playoff and relegation places) surely next season, even if it starts later, can still finish in May, even if UEFA postpone a tournament (again could look silly if this settles in the next few weeks) and play it next year, just throw a few more mid week games in. If you offer teams less opportunities to earn more cash or play additional mid weeks deep down we all know what they’ll choose...
Annoyingly I’ll have to talk to people if I go to the pub this afternoon...best restring the guitar...
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The club will manage, I am more worried about my son, who is 23 and a self-employed joiner, with a pregant girlfriend, max upto his limit on his overdraft. He has slowly been rebuilding his life, doing whatever work he can find, after he tried to end his life, after his ex stopped him from seeing his 4 month old son at the time. The courts still making him jump through hoops, as he tries to get access to his son.
Due to him having a mental breakdown and being a bloke, got no support from any organisation during this difficult time.
We had supported throughout, its been difficult, many a sleepless weekends, not knowing what might happen.
He will not get any money from the Goverment, I just hope he does not have a elapse.
I could not be prouder, how he has got over that difficult period in his life.
Its hard enough being a carer, so GTFC on Saturday, volunteering was my release from the pressures of modern life.
You my fishy friends, contributing on this forum, keep me going.
We need to support each other, through the best football forum in the World.
I look forward to what we might discuss during these non sport weeks.
Keep your chins up, support each other.
UTMM
I hadn't thought about these sort of issues, people with mental health problems, you are right that they could be very hard hit by the employment problems this situation raises. and the social distancing measures could make such people feel more isolated. I hope everything works out for your son
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The club will manage, I am more worried about my son, who is 23 and a self-employed joiner, with a pregant girlfriend, max upto his limit on his overdraft. He has slowly been rebuilding his life, doing whatever work he can find, after he tried to end his life, after his ex stopped him from seeing his 4 month old son at the time. The courts still making him jump through hoops, as he tries to get access to his son.
Due to him having a mental breakdown and being a bloke, got no support from any organisation during this difficult time.
We had supported throughout, its been difficult, many a sleepless weekends, not knowing what might happen.
He will not get any money from the Goverment, I just hope he does not have a elapse.
I could not be prouder, how he has got over that difficult period in his life.
Its hard enough being a carer, so GTFC on Saturday, volunteering was my release from the pressures of modern life.
You my fishy friends, contributing on this forum, keep me going.
We need to support each other, through the best football forum in the World.
I look forward to what we might discuss during these non sport weeks.
Keep your chins up, support each other.
UTMM
I hadn't thought about these sort of issues, people with mental health problems, you are right that they could be very hard hit by the employment problems this situation raises. and the social distancing measures could make such people feel more isolated. I hope everything works out for your son
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We need to prepare for the very real possibility of the entire footballing season in the entire country being declared nul and void with no promotions or relegations.
But no matter what decision is made there will be happy and unhappy people.
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It’s naturally a difficult time for crowdfunding, when people’s own finances are so uncertain. I heard it mooted that Premier League clubs should help to cover the shortfall of struggling lower league sides, but given the substantial loss of income they’re about to experience I don’t see them being in the mood for altruism.
That said, I think the issue is bigger than just the last few home games. Technically, are the club expected to refund season ticket money for games that didn’t happen, and if this isn’t over until late summer what impact will it have on cash flow when it comes to new season ticket sales.
Personally, I wouldn’t want any season ticket money back for the lost games (there needs to be an opt out option if the club are obliged to do so). Christ, it ain’t the club’s fault. And I’d probably still tentatively buy a season ticket so long as there was a reasonable proposition of a 20-21 season. Frankly, I’d there isn’t then the world’s shafted in such a significant way that it doesn’t matter anyway.
Whilst I'm not a fan of the current Town regime, I wouldn't insist on a refund for unused season ticket vouchers. It isn't the club's fault that games might not get played. I think things may fundamentally change in many parts of our lives and whilst I love my football, it has to take a back seat for the moment whilst we see just how bad things might get. Got lots of rail and various match tickets booked. It doesn't matter if I don't get to use them or have to write money off. Just come back from a month in Malta on holiday to use up leave. I left three days early yesterday in case a flight ban to the UK was suddenly imposed. It might not be but it was clear from the holiday company I booked with that were no contingency plans. The Maltese govermment is making quick decisions but not letting anyone have prior notice. When nationals of four European countries were suddenly stranded on Wednesday I paid to change my ticket. I really felt for the confused and bewildered who were trapped over there and those arriving confined to rooms for 14 days. At that point all my frustrations about the disruption to the football season disappeared. I've been watching Brentford's home games when Town are away and the gold dust arrived in the post today. A ticket for the last ever game at Griffin Park. Brentford v Barnsley May 2nd. Very disappointed but I'm at home and that's what matters. I have my insulin supply secure and all the other meds I need. I'm obviously a member of a high risk group and am still trying to shake off respiratory illness probably dating back to January. I was treated with antibiotics in Malta for bronchitis and sinusitis. I get bronchitis every five years or so and the uncontrollable cough is truly terrifying for me. It's not quite fully shifted. The thought of getting COVID 19 whilst still struck with this doesn't bear thinking about. A fellow Bees friend has diabetes too and is very vulnerable. During this special season at Brentford his outstanding ambition is to survive. He gets to every home and away game and is a fan legend. He's not panicking but just stating what really matters. I share his ambition. It might be that the new season, if we don't get another wave of this pandemic, starts next spring. It may be that we have to consider football March to November for the future. To be honest I'd like to experiment with that. I love football on a warm summer night or a sunny spring evening. My life has already been changed by this. I'm much more averse to foreign travel now. It's a century since the Spanish flu and we've been very fortunate to avoid anything of that magnitude since in an era where disease can spread in hours or days rather than months. There probably won't be a surviving tourist industry left in the Med after all this anyway and our airlines may be history too. I hope the projections are far out but prepare for the worst and hope for the best. Hopefully we will all meet safely on the other side. UTM
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Wise comments TM. Hope you do make that last game at GP. If not I bet you can shift the ticket no trouble.
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Wise comments TM. Hope you do make that last game at GP. If not I bet you can shift the ticket no trouble.
Thanks KM. If its played I'll get there! I retire in a few weeks so won't be hampered by work considerations. I've been hoping the Bees go up so I can run two STs. I personally hope we finish the season and adjust next season to accommodate it. I went to see local side Thorne Colliery yesterday afternoon so got a game in! UTM
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I see Wayne Rooney has touted an idea I put up on the Fishy a couple of days ago. Realign the league calendar inline with 2022 World Cup being in November/December.
As things stands...
2019/20: Season in chaos 2020/21: Season likely to be shortened considerably 2021/22: Season likely to be shortened to accommodate early start to following season. 2022/23: Messy season with early start & WC Nov to Dec, 2023/24: Back to normal.
Realistically this season and the next 3 are going to be very messy. November to August anyone?
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UTM Tough times for so many people. Although I like being alone and being independent but now I feel isolated. My missus has been in Canada looking after her dying Grandmother. I am also moving apartments so that's kind of stressful. The landlady won't let anybody in the house to help me. If it weren't for my scouse mate, i'd be struggling. There's a tweet from a bloke called BigNigeNUFC which made me laugh. day 1 without football: had to spend time with the missus.and I just found out she no longer works in Woolworths.
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I see Wayne Rooney has touted an idea I put up on the Fishy a couple of days ago. Realign the league calendar inline with 2022 World Cup being in November/December.
As things stands...
2019/20: Season in chaos 2020/21: Season likely to be shortened considerably 2021/22: Season likely to be shortened to accommodate early start to following season. 2022/23: Messy season with early start & WC Nov to Dec, 2023/24: Back to normal.
Realistically this season and the next 3 are going to be very messy. November to August anyone?
So Rooney reads the Fishy! That’s very, very surprising for a man like that. Amazing. I don’t think he could read.
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