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ginnywings
January 10, 2021, 3:38pm

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But that's hardly his fault!  For most of the time he's been playing as a lone striker.  I don't know what his best role is, maybe playing as a lone striker is not his forte, but at least he tries.



Not saying it's his fault. I'm saying he has been picked by 3 managers because we have no one else, apart from three totally inexperienced lads learning their trade at this level.

If Hanson is fit and/or we sign a striker this week, I doubt he will be starting on Saturday.
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You are joking right?  THREE Football managers pick him constantly, but you think that anonymous people on this board know better than them!  Oh, and because ONE man stays in the team, he will cause us to go down, what about the other 10?   FFS read your post before you put this kind of rubbish on here, don't care if it's your opinion or not, it's a rubbish post that would seem to have been written by a school kid, not saying that you are, but the post makes it look like you are.



Been watching town for over 55 years and I have every right to disagree with football managers on this forum. Simple fact is Holloway hardly picked Green, only sensible thing he did, and my point is that with Green up front we will simply not score sufficient goals to stay up no matter how good the other ten are.

You may think it’s rubbish but I couldn’t give two hoots what you think and stick by my statement if Green stays in the team we go down.

Praying that’s not the case but ....
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Stats for Green played 18, shoots 18, goals 2. Not a striker, top scorer is a CB


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Been watching town for over 55 years and I have every right to disagree with football managers on this forum. Simple fact is Holloway hardly picked Green, only sensible thing he did, and my point is that with Green up front we will simply not score sufficient goals to stay up no matter how good the other ten are.

You may think it’s rubbish but I couldn’t give two hoots what you think and stick by my statement if Green stays in the team we go down.

Praying that’s not the case but ....


I think if the majority of this shower stay in the team we will go down.
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poor from people on here the service to him is non existant , i'v seen players in black & white try a lot less than green does FACT, tell me how many chances he missed in last 3 games ? i'll tell you one chance we create nothing , kane would struggle in our side ok don't all laugh at once but my point he not a target man , he likes to play off big man i genuinly feel for him it must hurt him like it does us
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Whilst I agree that at times you can blame poor service, it isn't always the answer.

For instance,  against Cambridge, someone slipped a ball into him just inside the box, central to goal, but he was too slow to react and/or wasn't aware a defender would be covering round, and he failed to get a shot away. When in reality, it should have been a great chance to score. So by the stats, he didn't miss the chance, but it was because he was so poor he turned it from a chance, to nothing.

Sometimes its hard to criticise good strikers when the service is poor. Other times, the striker himself can just have a lack of good movement, lack of sharpness, lack of anticipation in the box, lack of ability to retain the ball in the opposition half to actually enable us to spend more time in the opposition half.

I realise the service hasn't been great for a lot of this season, but part of it is down to the strikers themselves. Particularly, in my opinion, with Green, who doesn't offer an outlet, gets beaten to his second touch by the defender and doesn't give us any movement in the final third.

I know they have their critics for areas of their game, but Bennett and Williams are capable of playing creative passes if they have runners ahead of the ball.


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Whilst I agree that at times you can blame poor service, it isn't always the answer.

For instance,  against Cambridge, someone slipped a ball into him just inside the box, central to goal, but he was too slow to react and/or wasn't aware a defender would be covering round, and he failed to get a shot away. When in reality, it should have been a great chance to score. So by the stats, he didn't miss the chance, but it was because he was so poor he turned it from a chance, to nothing.

Sometimes its hard to criticise good strikers when the service is poor. Other times, the striker himself can just have a lack of good movement, lack of sharpness, lack of anticipation in the box, lack of ability to retain the ball in the opposition half to actually enable us to spend more time in the opposition half.

I realise the service hasn't been great for a lot of this season, but part of it is down to the strikers themselves. Particularly, in my opinion, with Green, who doesn't offer an outlet, gets beaten to his second touch by the defender and doesn't give us any movement in the final third.

I know they have their critics for areas of their game, but Bennett and Williams are capable of playing creative passes if they have runners ahead of the ball.


I think that has been the only genuine opportunity to score/shoot that has been served up for him for god knows how long.
I always remember thinking Andy Cole wasnt a very good striker in the Prem, would miss plenty of chances....but he played for two very attack minded sides and got plenty of service, his goal record was very good but his goal to chance ratio was probably pretty average.
Other strikers around at that time had a much better strike rate, probably not scoring as many but deadlier when they got the chance.
Green isnt getting 3-4-5 chances a game which he probably needs to bag one, he is getting 3 chances a month.
He needs chances, he needs support, he needs to play facing the goal not with his back to it or running channels.

Whilst conceding he isnt really what we need right now and yesterday I must admit he looked like a broken man out there I still maintain he isnt being really given a fair chance.



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@ing him in tweets is wrong but he is bobbins. I do struggle to see what he offers, yes he works very hard but that shouldn't be a compliment, it should be a prerequisite for a pro footballer. He can't play the Lenell John Lewis role of holding the ball up, linking the play, winning cheap free kicks (he gives away far too many of them for a start)! I assume his game was, once upon a time, based on pace, energy and movement but with age that appears to have gone with it. Simply stated, we need better, much better.


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I'd sooner swop the Shop for Green even now
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Lenny was a way better player than Green. He had more of an aerial presence and linked the play effectively, plus he was a greater goal threat which tells you all you need to know!


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