Our run in

Quoted from DB

Most on this forum more or less agreed that the players Hurst brought in are no better than what we had, Eastwood and Mayenese being the exceptions. Many posts ago it was suggested that Hurst was in a win, win position. If we go down it's not his fault and if we stay up he's a hero.

I was replying to a post about the lack of quality of the team. Can you name the players, as you suggest, "were prepared to sign for a club in absolute freefall"?. I like hundreds on here contribute to player's wages through ifollow. You are suggesting they have come for wages etc. and not the benefit of the club.

If this is the case then Hurst should kick them out NOW.

Macca - playing better as a result of Eastwood
Eastwood - good capture
Hendrie - playing better under Hurst although the odd poor performance
Hewitt - phenomenal under Hurst
Menayesse - an improvement and Hurst has improved him even further
Habergham - clearly a good player but gamble based on fitness but probably best option available
Clifton - playing for the shirt despite out of position
Morais - playing well under Hurst but injury
Matete - massive improvement
El Mazouni - glimpses but injured
Coke - improvement
Rose - playing better under Hurst
Spokes - seemingly being well coached by Hurst
Lamy - looks to add something
Adams - got some class but not enough minutes as yet
Williams - a bit of Hurst tough love and beginning to look better for it.
Jackson - fits and starts
Hanson - clearly plays for Hurst and taken a few games but looking good
Shop - ok missed half of his chances but has scored some too. Improvement
Payne - yet to be convinced but adds more than Green or Gibson

This team old and new players personal/attitude/resistance/group mentality whatever it is are an improvement.

Quoted from Marinerdeano

Macca - playing better as a result of Eastwood
Eastwood - good capture
Hendrie - playing better under Hurst although the odd poor performance
Hewitt - phenomenal under Hurst
Menayesse - an improvement and Hurst has improved him even further
Habergham - clearly a good player but gamble based on fitness but probably best option available
Clifton - playing for the shirt despite out of position
Morais - playing well under Hurst but injury
Matete - massive improvement
El Mazouni - glimpses but injured
Coke - improvement
Rose - playing better under Hurst
Spokes - seemingly being well coached by Hurst
Lamy - looks to add something
Adams - got some class but not enough minutes as yet
Williams - a bit of Hurst tough love and beginning to look better for it.
Jackson - fits and starts
Hanson - clearly plays for Hurst and taken a few games but looking good
Shop - ok missed half of his chances but has scored some too. Improvement
Payne - yet to be convinced but adds more than Green or Gibson

This team old and new players personal/attitude/resistance/group mentality whatever it is are an improvement.

Performances have improved, and we are obviously harder to beat now. But we don't create enough chances and anyway, the improvement has been too little and too gradual to save us.

Quoted from Marinerdeano

Macca - playing better as a result of Eastwood
Eastwood - good capture
Hendrie - playing better under Hurst although the odd poor performance
Hewitt - phenomenal under Hurst
Menayesse - an improvement and Hurst has improved him even further
Habergham - clearly a good player but gamble based on fitness but probably best option available
Clifton - playing for the shirt despite out of position
Morais - playing well under Hurst but injury
Matete - massive improvement
El Mazouni - glimpses but injured
Coke - improvement
Rose - playing better under Hurst
Spokes - seemingly being well coached by Hurst
Lamy - looks to add something
Adams - got some class but not enough minutes as yet
Williams - a bit of Hurst tough love and beginning to look better for it.
Jackson - fits and starts
Hanson - clearly plays for Hurst and taken a few games but looking good
Shop - ok missed half of his chances but has scored some too. Improvement
Payne - yet to be convinced but adds more than Green or Gibson

This team old and new players personal/attitude/resistance/group mentality whatever it is are an improvement.

Hurst said "It's a mess". Anything is an improvement, too little, too late and "players personal/attitude/resistance/group mentality" stopped after they scored on Saturday.

Quoted from DB

If this is the case then Hurst should kick them out NOW.

Unfortunately as they are all still under contract he can't do that unless the club buys up the contracts which they won't do.

But I think Hurst has already made his choices on who is staying and who is going. You only have to look at who is consistently being left out of the team, or those who randomly appear on the subs bench due to player injuries elsewhere.

Unfortunately Hanson seems to be the flavour of the month currently but Green seems to be one of the forgotten ones. I think even though Williams has made a couple of cameos he will be out the door, and hopefully 'hoofer' Waterfall too

Quoted from WayneBurnettsJockstrap

Unfortunately as they are all still under contract he can't do that unless the club buys up the contracts which they won't do.

But I think Hurst has already made his choices on who is staying and who is going. You only have to look at who is consistently being left out of the team, or those who randomly appear on the subs bench due to player injuries elsewhere.

Unfortunately Hanson seems to be the flavour of the month currently but Green seems to be one of the forgotten ones. I think even though Williams has made a couple of cameos he will be out the door, and hopefully 'hoofer' Waterfall too

Because they have a contract doesn't mean he has to use them, merely they have to be paid. I agree about favourites and it has to be seen who they are. Certainly, he prefers some over others, even those who put a good performance in. As you say Hanson is Hurst's man and I don't see why. No.9 and hardly scored, his 2 goals since January have both been very lucky and needed little if any skill.

Still, Hurst is the consortiums man so we will have to wait and see what happens.

Quoted from Les Brechin

What about "A Connell moment" though. Admittedly that was against poorer oppostion but there were many times I can remember when he'd just pull a goal out of nowhere.

Yes, fair point re Connell Les. I was using Clive I guess as I think he was one of the best I can remember at finding that few seconds of magic to win a game out of nowhere   , to be fair Reddy, quick Mick, Oster, and Ivano are worth a mention too (I’m sure there must be a few others)

I’d expect Hanson to hang up his boots at the end of the season. He’s way way past his sell by date .
As for the rest I’m worried we’ll end up nearer the bottom of the NL than the top with them . Half of them are sub standard NL players and those that are probably just about L2 level are more than likely to leave . There’s only 4 or 5 at best that fall into that category and some of them are loanees anyway .
I can’t imagine it’ll cost the new owners a lot to pay off the rubbish and start afresh .
FWIW I’d only keep Spokes out of the young lads signed last summer . He’s definitely got potential...a big step up showed but he looks like there’s a player in there .

Quoted from DB

Hurst said "It's a mess". Anything is an improvement, too little, too late and "players personal/attitude/resistance/group mentality" stopped after they scored on Saturday.

Hurst did say "its a mess" but we  are in a worse position now than when he made that statement, considerably worse and fast becoming cut off at the foot of the table.

Wouldn"t say we are worse, just in a worse position.  Hurst has had to put a full team together and get them playing, some task given the time he's had in the January transfer window. Look at Bolton, they were just above us at one point, until they got it together and went on a winning streak. It took them the best part of half the season before they started playing and winning. Instant success is a rare commodity in football.

Quoted from Azimuth

Hurst did say "its a mess" but we  are in a worse position now than when he made that statement, considerably worse and fast becoming cut off at the foot of the table.

Many will agree with you,
on the other hand, Hurst supporters will put up a robust case.
This has been debated many times and Hurst will be the manager next season, regardless of which league we are in.