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A great servant to the club. Good luck and best wishes for your future Ian.
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Perhaps he could write his memoirs of his time at the club would certainly make interesting reading
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I have to say that in my dealings with the Club Ian always came over as quietly competent and knowledgeable. A nice chap who dealt with a number of difficult situations with integrity. Good luck Ian in whatever you do in the future.
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he can concentrate on writing some more James Bond novels, and writing the screenplay of Chitty Chitty Bang Bang the sequel.
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I understand why 1878 wanted their own person as CEO and I think most people wouldn't like being moved sideways.
With 1878 and Debbie new to working in football I do think the contacts and relationships that Ian has will be sorely missed.
With the newly appointed facilities manager having left too, it seems 1878 are currently dealing with a few bumps in the road.
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Perhaps he could write his memoirs of his time at the club would certainly make interesting reading
And what a book it could potentially be, but unfortunately he isn't that kind of man. He was always the stalwart behind the scenes making everything happen. In the write up it about him it says something about during his time and signing 1200 players. Would he have had any involvement in those signings?
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Good luck to him... but who's going to cut the grass now!
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I make that 30+ players a year. Every year
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I make that 30+ players a year. Every year
800 of those signings were holloway and Newell…
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And what a book it could potentially be, but unfortunately he isn't that kind of man.
True, Ian is more into the spy/action genre.
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I make that 30+ players a year. Every year
More than one player making their home debut every home game on average. With 23 league home games a season, that is pretty much a whole new squad, every season for 38 years.
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Perhaps he could write his memoirs of his time at the club would certainly make interesting reading
Book Title could be The Good, The Bad and The Ugly Drunks (GY)
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Thank you for all of your years of hard work and service Ian. Have a wonderful retirement. UTM
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Best wishes for the future.
A lot of organisational knowledge gone.
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And what a book it could potentially be, but unfortunately he isn't that kind of man. He was always the stalwart behind the scenes making everything happen.
In the write up it about him it says something about during his time and signing 1200 players. Would he have had any involvement in those signings?
He still had the role of company secretary so I’d imagine he would. Basically the focal point of anything legal.
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No idea what he was like as a person, but his statements always carried a dignity that others 'in the building' lacked.
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He still had the role of company secretary so I’d imagine he would. Basically the focal point of anything legal.
Rae Walker has been the Company Secretary for some time. I also understand that Dale the Press Officer is leaving as well.
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Rae Walker has been the Company Secretary for some time.
I also understand that Dale the Press Officer is leaving as well.
Really? 2020 accounts still show IF as the secretary. IF's name is on the correspondence about AGMs too.
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Really? 2020 accounts still show IF as the secretary. IF's name is on the correspondence about AGMs too.
Check the who's who on the club website
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Rae Walker has been the Company Secretary for some time.
I also understand that Dale the Press Officer is leaving as well.
Who will ask the important questions like "how did the move come about?"
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Really? 2020 accounts still show IF as the secretary. IF's name is on the correspondence about AGMs too.
Well the list showing the club staff shows Club Secretary so maybe she is just a secretary but seems high up on the list.
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Well the list showing the club staff shows Club Secretary so maybe she is just a secretary but seems high up on the list.
It does. But maybe Club Secretary different to Company Secretary. Club Sec for the football admin stuff and Company Secretary for the legal duties under Company Law. Companies House shows IF as company Secretary. I expect that now he’s going someone else will become Company Secretary.
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I do wonder what is happening at Town these days. Ian Fleming has gone, groundsman has gone (or is going), 2nd ads for chef and facilities managers. These were not Fentyites but quality employees who had a lot of knowledge about the club and had been years with it.
I am not knocking our new owners but I am intrigued as to why you want to get rid of ( or any other words you may choose to use) 2 experienced people.
Just saying.
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I do wonder what is happening at Town these days. Ian Fleming has gone, groundsman has gone (or is going), 2nd ads for chef and facilities managers. These were not Fentyites but quality employees who had a lot of knowledge about the club and had been years with it.
I am not knocking our new owners but I am intrigued as to why you want to get rid of ( or any other words you may choose to use) 2 experienced people.
Just saying.
We don’t know if the likes of Fleming were on the side of Fenty, not just because he was their employer. Let’s face it, we know many staff were hamstrung by Fenty and his ways but also, you’d imagine the new owners don’t suffer fools. Perhaps some of these staff were done, perhaps to truly move forward new blood is needed. What has always baffled me is having heard the stories from many a person inside the club, i don’t think many of us would r hung around under the old regime…I know it’s a job and better the devil you know but hearing stuff, I think working in Tesco’s would’ve been easier. I can’t imagine the new owners are keen on slackers and shirkers… Playing devils advocate, in truth, knowing what we know about decision making etc you can’t imagine Fleming did much, not necessarily through his own fault…perhaps the increased pressure and workload have made him reassess…or he’s just had enough and taken the opportunity given to him and is off to sit in his garden and relax? Someone mentioned a facilities manager appointed then left, any news on that? Or have I read it wrong? What sort of salaries do facilities managers, CEOs etc of two bit clubs earn?
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Rae Walker has been the Company Secretary for some time.
I also understand that Dale the Press Officer is leaving as well.
The new broom is starting to clean
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We don’t know if the likes of Fleming were on the side of Fenty, not just because he was their employer. Let’s face it, we know many staff were hamstrung by Fenty and his ways but also, you’d imagine the new owners don’t suffer fools. Perhaps some of these staff were done, perhaps to truly move forward new blood is needed. What has always baffled me is having heard the stories from many a person inside the club, i don’t think many of us would r hung around under the old regime…I know it’s a job and better the devil you know but hearing stuff, I think working in Tesco’s would’ve been easier.
I can’t imagine the new owners are keen on slackers and shirkers…
Playing devils advocate, in truth, knowing what we know about decision making etc you can’t imagine Fleming did much, not necessarily through his own fault…perhaps the increased pressure and workload have made him reassess…or he’s just had enough and taken the opportunity given to him and is off to sit in his garden and relax?
Someone mentioned a facilities manager appointed then left, any news on that? Or have I read it wrong?
What sort of salaries do facilities managers, CEOs etc of two bit clubs earn?
Nick Dale left and we appointed Paul Thorpe as Operations & Safety Officer: [url]https://www.grimsby-townfc.co.uk/news/2021/may/vacancy---operations--safety-officer/[/url] (Note the "including Event Safety Officer" in the job title) The job of Facilities Manager is now being advertised which is a different title but the duties look suspiciously similar: [url]https://www.grimsby-townfc.co.uk/club/vacancies/[/url] (Note "including Stadium Matchday Safety Officer" in the job title - is that not basically the same thing?) Yes the job title is different but the duties look very similar to me. Alan Rutter has also posted this on Twitter: [url]https://twitter.com/alanrutter5/status/1427007259045994496?s=19[/url] Maybe I'm doing 2+2 and getting 5?
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It could be that it was wholly Fleming's decision. been there nigh on 40 years , so looking at retirement fairly shortly, effectively demoted and then answering to an assertive female, with a very different way of doing business. Probably not enjoying the experience , and thought is it really worth all this shiite/hassle?
had quite a similar experience in my previous job - 25 years doing the same thing then new young management come in and start changing things. i didn't agree with their approach, and tbf , i was stuck in my ways, so when the inevitable parting came it was actually quite a relief
i would imagine Dale hasn't met their expectations and with Liam Emmerson having joined on a permanent basis ,he's probably not really needed
as for CEO salary - managing a £3-£4 million turnover company in our location, i 'm guessing c. £60,000 - £70,000 pa
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For failing businesses with a poor culture, I don't think it is too unusual for new owners to come in and nuke everything from orbit, so to speak, rather than attempting to sort the wheat from the chaff and rebuild with what is already there.
I've no idea how good at their jobs any of the previous/current staff are but I'll trust that the new owners know what they are doing and will employ competent people.
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For failing businesses with a poor culture, I don't think it is too unusual for new owners to come in and nuke everything from orbit, so to speak, rather than attempting to sort the wheat from the chaff and rebuild with what is already there.
I've no idea how good at their jobs any of the previous/current staff are but I'll trust that the new owners know what they are doing and will employ competent people.
my point is that it's a 2 way street - it's quite possible that 1878 wanted Fleming to stay, but he wasn't happy with the changes so decided to go. They have spoken positively about him on several occasions
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It could be that it was wholly Fleming's decision. been there nigh on 40 years , so looking at retirement fairly shortly, effectively demoted and then answering to an assertive female, with a very different way of doing business. Probably not enjoying the experience , and thought is it really worth all this shiite/hassle?
had quite a similar experience in my previous job - 25 years doing the same thing then new young management come in and start changing things. i didn't agree with their approach, and tbf , i was stuck in my ways, so when the inevitable parting came it was actually quite a relief
i would imagine Dale hasn't met their expectations and with Liam Emmerson having joined on a permanent basis ,he's probably not really needed
as for CEO salary - managing a £3-£4 million turnover company in our location, i 'm guessing c. £60,000 - £70,000 pa
I found this which I think is the advert for her previous job: [url]https://www.charityjob.co.uk/jobs/ymca-humber/chief-executive-officer/594491[/url] Aldi also asked about the Chief Executive pay at a big club. Martin Bain, the former CEO of Sunderland who presided over their Championship relegation, was paid a salary of over £1m: [url]https://www.fourfourtwo.com/news/sunderland-give-martin-bain-ps19m-pay-after-huge-losses-and-pitch[/url]
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It could be that it was wholly Fleming's decision. been there nigh on 40 years , so looking at retirement fairly shortly, effectively demoted and then answering to an assertive female, with a very different way of doing business. Probably not enjoying the experience , and thought is it really worth all this shiite/hassle?
had quite a similar experience in my previous job - 25 years doing the same thing then new young management come in and start changing things. i didn't agree with their approach, and tbf , i was stuck in my ways, so when the inevitable parting came it was actually quite a relief
i would imagine Dale hasn't met their expectations and with Liam Emmerson having joined on a permanent basis ,he's probably not really needed
as for CEO salary - managing a £3-£4 million turnover company in our location, i 'm guessing c. £60,000 - £70,000 pa
yeah no offence to Dale but he was very old school, im glad we're moving forward in that regards
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fresh people with new ideas is the way forward and it looks like Debbie agrees
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We don’t know if the likes of Fleming were on the side of Fenty, not just because he was their employer. Let’s face it, we know many staff were hamstrung by Fenty and his ways but also, you’d imagine the new owners don’t suffer fools. Perhaps some of these staff were done, perhaps to truly move forward new blood is needed. What has always baffled me is having heard the stories from many a person inside the club, i don’t think many of us would r hung around under the old regime…I know it’s a job and better the devil you know but hearing stuff, I think working in Tesco’s would’ve been easier.
I can’t imagine the new owners are keen on slackers and shirkers…
Playing devils advocate, in truth, knowing what we know about decision making etc you can’t imagine Fleming did much, not necessarily through his own fault…perhaps the increased pressure and workload have made him reassess…or he’s just had enough and taken the opportunity given to him and is off to sit in his garden and relax?
Someone mentioned a facilities manager appointed then left, any news on that? Or have I read it wrong?
What sort of salaries do facilities managers, CEOs etc of two bit clubs earn?
Ian Fleming worked tirelessly for the club and had a lot of valuable knowledge regarding the football industry that we've now lost. He was always very nice and a great servant to the club and was here during the good days too. If he has left because he was "on the side of Fenty", then your narrative of everybody at the club hating him doesn't make much sense. From what I've heard, not everybody is particularly happy with the new dynamics in the office, and I wouldn't be surprised if that's why Ian has left.
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Ian Fleming worked tirelessly for the club and had a lot of valuable knowledge regarding the football industry that we've now lost. He was always very nice and a great servant to the club and was here during the good days too.
If he has left because he was "on the side of Fenty", then your narrative of everybody at the club hating him doesn't make much sense.
From what I've heard, not everybody is particularly happy with the new dynamics in the office, and I wouldn't be surprised if that's why Ian has left.
You mean people don’t like change? I’m sure many of the staff didn’t like the changes I implemented in my role when I started but they were for the benefit of the pupils…they’re on the train or they’re not…their choice. Same as many other folk will have encountered. You’re always quick to attack folk suggesting they have a narrative…if you bothered to read I was playing devils advocate. I’ve met Ian on multiple occasions, no issue with the bloke and as I said, he’s probably taken the chance to leave now…couldn’t argue with him. Probably feels he can’t be arsed with the changes at this stage of his career… Always funny that you have a negative about the new owners, almost like you’re still sticking up for your mate… For all the comments you have of people allegedly not being happy, I, along with plenty of others have heard very much the opposite, perhaps the fact the new leaders expect everyone to pull their weight is a shock to the system.
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I found this which I think is the advert for her previous job: [url]https://www.charityjob.co.uk/jobs/ymca-humber/chief-executive-officer/594491[/url]
Aldi also asked about the Chief Executive pay at a big club. Martin Bain, the former CEO of Sunderland who presided over their Championship relegation, was paid a salary of over £1m: [url]https://www.fourfourtwo.com/news/sunderland-give-martin-bain-ps19m-pay-after-huge-losses-and-pitch[/url]
Wasn’t Bain the male private who had the hyperbaric type chamber built that only he used?
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Those that are going/have gone are close to retirement. A change in management always means new ways of doing things and a new culture, but in this case more so than most. I suspect that in the nicest possible way they probably couldn’t do with the hassle. I know I’d feel the same, no matter how good the new management were or how well meaning.
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You mean people don’t like change? I’m sure many of the staff didn’t like the changes I implemented in my role when I started but they were for the benefit of the pupils…they’re on the train or they’re not…their choice. Same as many other folk will have encountered.
You’re always quick to attack folk suggesting they have a narrative…if you bothered to read I was playing devils advocate. I’ve met Ian on multiple occasions, no issue with the bloke and as I said, he’s probably taken the chance to leave now…couldn’t argue with him. Probably feels he can’t be arsed with the changes at this stage of his career…
Always funny that you have a negative about the new owners, almost like you’re still sticking up for your mate…
For all the comments you have of people allegedly not being happy, I, along with plenty of others have heard very much the opposite, perhaps the fact the new leaders expect everyone to pull their weight is a shock to the system.
The thing is, we've lost a lot of knowledge in Nick Dale and Ian Fleming that hasn't been replaced. They may not have been popular, but forcing them out is neither in keeping with B-corp status, nor a sensible thing to do without having a replacement in place. Maybe Ian's role is more covered, but it looks pretty obvious that the stadium manager or whatever it's being called today has been a bit of a mistake. You've said lots of times that everybody hates working under Fenty in that office, but that doesn't seem the case when three senior people leave shortly after he's gone. It actually suggests the opposite is true. Hopefully it's a case of a new brush sweeps clean, but I'm skeptical that losing so many key figures in such a short space of time is the best way to bring about success in such a niche industry.
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The thing is, we've lost a lot of knowledge in Nick Dale and Ian Fleming that hasn't been replaced. They may not have been popular, but forcing them out is neither in keeping with B-corp status, nor a sensible thing to do without having a replacement in place. Maybe Ian's role is more covered, but it looks pretty obvious that the stadium manager or whatever it's being called today has been a bit of a mistake.
You've said lots of times that everybody hates working under Fenty in that office, but that doesn't seem the case when three senior people leave shortly after he's gone. It actually suggests the opposite is true.
Hopefully it's a case of a new brush sweeps clean, but I'm skeptical that losing so many key figures in such a short space of time is the best way to bring about success in such a niche industry.
Nick Dale should have been out the door years ago. he's an A Grade tosser
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The thing is, we've lost a lot of knowledge in Nick Dale and Ian Fleming that hasn't been replaced. They may not have been popular, but forcing them out is neither in keeping with B-corp status, nor a sensible thing to do without having a replacement in place. Maybe Ian's role is more covered, but it looks pretty obvious that the stadium manager or whatever it's being called today has been a bit of a mistake.
You've said lots of times that everybody hates working under Fenty in that office, but that doesn't seem the case when three senior people leave shortly after he's gone. It actually suggests the opposite is true.
Hopefully it's a case of a new brush sweeps clean, but I'm skeptical that losing so many key figures in such a short space of time is the best way to bring about success in such a niche industry.
Nick Dale was a Stadium Manager who hated the very people he was paid to look after. Getting rid of him was a nice quick win for 1878 and long overdue. You can call Flemings' move a sideways move or whatever you like but other than becoming chair, any other job you give a CEO is a demotion so it's no surprise to see him leave. As far as the day to day running of a football club goes, he's probably forgot more than Stockwood, Pettit and Cook know. Rumours now circulating that Dale Ladson is leaving. If we want to produce first class content, he's been in charge of the substandard content for a long while now and to me, he doesn't come across as having much "get up and go".
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Knowledge and Nick Dale…flipping hell my Welsh friend, that’s even funny for you.
The man was never qualified for the job in the first place and like a lap dog, followed his mate…
Dale was a flipping disgrace that held the people he was paid to keep safe in contempt, just like the flipping idiot that owned the club.
The reply I once got from him regarding a serious issue was embarrassing, he’d not even arsed to spellcheck or get my name right. I had to contact the police instead who, to their credit, apologised for Dale because they’d received emails of a similar nature.
Fleming leaving isn’t a surprise but can’t see it having a negative effect on the club and he’ll have a great retirement, Dale leaving is a flipping delight…
As for poor Mr Ladson, lovely bloke, genuine dude but if what he produces isn’t up to scratch then so be it…it’s hard and seems brutal but long term probably for the better.
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The thing is, we've lost a lot of knowledge in Nick Dale and Ian Fleming that hasn't been replaced. They may not have been popular, but forcing them out is neither in keeping with B-corp status, nor a sensible thing to do without having a replacement in place. Maybe Ian's role is more covered, but it looks pretty obvious that the stadium manager or whatever it's being called today has been a bit of a mistake.
You've said lots of times that everybody hates working under Fenty in that office, but that doesn't seem the case when three senior people leave shortly after he's gone. It actually suggests the opposite is true.
Hopefully it's a case of a new brush sweeps clean, but I'm skeptical that losing so many key figures in such a short space of time is the best way to bring about success in such a niche industry.
A) you've got zero evidence that Flemi g was forced out And B) since we haven't had home mat h in 18 months I'm struggling to see what evidence you have for the departure of the despised Dale being a mistake
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The idea that Dale leaving is any kind of error or loss is hilarious!
I don't knowvtge bloke but he had genuinely damming evidence of his ability in the role in the public domain, being required to apologise publicly for his inability to represent the club properly in the media. Furthermore we were fined because of poor crowd control by the FA at least once for the port Vale game which was his responsibility.
To add to that there were all the other stuff you hear about him, he was shall we say, very unpopular with a significant section of the fans.
On the topic of Fleming hw seems to be a nice guy and quite popular but during the transfer of Coke we did manage to balls up quite spectacularly on the administrative side of things. We were very fortunate to receive dispensation for that error. I would imagine that was under his remit, even if he wasn't personally responsible although I would have thought he would be?
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A) you've got zero evidence that Flemi g was forced out And B) since we haven't had home mat h in 18 months I'm struggling to see what evidence you have for the departure of the despised Dale being a mistake
Come on, we know what PP is doing; simply doing the thing he accuses many of us of…creating a narrative to fit his agenda, difference is, many of us have evidence to support our claims…
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If the new board want to introduce a high performance culture throughout the whole organisation, and some people decide it’s not for them, then thanks & all the best.
Can’t say fairer than that.
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The idea that Dale leaving is any kind of error or loss is hilarious!
I don't knowvtge bloke but he had genuinely damming evidence of his ability in the role in the public domain, being required to apologise publicly for his inability to represent the club properly in the media. Furthermore we were fined because of poor crowd control by the FA at least once for the port Vale game which was his responsibility.
To add to that there were all the other stuff you hear about him, he was shall we say, very unpopular with a significant section of the fans.
On the topic of Fleming hw seems to be a nice guy and quite popular but during the transfer of Coke we did manage to balls up quite spectacularly on the administrative side of things. We were very fortunate to receive dispensation for that error. I would imagine that was under his remit, even if he wasn't personally responsible although I would have thought he would be?
Actually thinking about what a control freak fenty was maybe it was him that ballsed up on the Coke thing rather than Fleming? Lol
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A) you've got zero evidence that Flemi g was forced out And B) since we haven't had home mat h in 18 months I'm struggling to see what evidence you have for the departure of the despised Dale being a mistake
I have no evidence that Ian Fleming was forced out but after 30 odd years service the new owners effectively demoting him by bringing in someone to take his position doesn't look good on his part or on the part of the new owners. If he had indicated he was thinking of retiring anyway in my opinion it could have been handled better with just handing his role over to the new CEO when he actually left.
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We have been utterly sh1te as a club for nearly two decades.
The people who have been fixtures for years can't have any complaints about being replaced/calling it quits.
What happened last season was an utter disgrace and my only regret is that the current owners didn't get in sooner to stop the rot before we plummeted once again into non league. A league we may struggle to get out of for some time.
I'll not lose any sleep over staff being replaced. They had a good run and failed miserably.
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People become the product of their environment.
Be it Dale Ladson, Ian Fleming, the groundsman....
The club was badly run in a micro-management style for 20 odd years. It's absolutely impossible to expect anyone function, never mind shine, in that type of environment.
Is Dale Ladson the best person we could have producing online content? Probably not. Was he ever supported, developed, nurtured to do the job? Also probably not. The sad thing is that anyone who has had a dictator type leaning over them for years upon years is then faced with a real battle when a new style of management comes in. It will have become engrained on them and the ability to think for themselves has almost disappeared.
For anyone who doubts the 'change' since the ownership has traded hands, I suggest you go into the ticket office and engage with the staff. Absolute marked difference in them between my last two visits, most recent was in July to sort season tickets with the one before that a good 15 months before. Incredible difference.
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Nick Dale was a Stadium Manager who hated the very people he was paid to look after. Getting rid of him was a nice quick win for 1878 and long overdue.
You can call Flemings' move a sideways move or whatever you like but other than becoming chair, any other job you give a CEO is a demotion so it's no surprise to see him leave. As far as the day to day running of a football club goes, he's probably forgot more than Stockwood, Pettit and Cook know.
[/b]Rumours now circulating that Dale Ladson is leaving[b]. If we want to produce first class content, he's been in charge of the substandard content for a long while now and to me, he doesn't come across as having much "get up and go".
Dale has already left
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Alan Rutter has also posted this on Twitter: [url]https://twitter.com/alanrutter5/status/1427007259045994496?s=19[/url]
Maybe I'm doing 2+2 and getting 5?
Sounds a bit desperate from Mr Rutter. This was his last tweet, a little errr odd... [tweet]1427003710971027460[/tweet]
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I personally hope the club swerve his offer of help and begging for employment. He was seen by fans as pro-Fenty, even going as far as defending him to the Daily Mail and fans chose not to vote him back onto the Trust board.
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I thought the old bill were having a recruitment drive, surely Mr Rutter would best be suited going back in there…
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The thing is, we've lost a lot of knowledge in Nick Dale and Ian Fleming that hasn't been replaced. They may not have been popular, but forcing them out is neither in keeping with B-corp status, nor a sensible thing to do without having a replacement in place. Maybe Ian's role is more covered, but it looks pretty obvious that the stadium manager or whatever it's being called today has been a bit of a mistake.
You've said lots of times that everybody hates working under Fenty in that office, but that doesn't seem the case when three senior people leave shortly after he's gone. It actually suggests the opposite is true.
Hopefully it's a case of a new brush sweeps clean, but I'm skeptical that losing so many key figures in such a short space of time is the best way to bring about success in such a niche industry.
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The thing is, we've lost a lot of knowledge in Nick Dale and Ian Fleming that hasn't been replaced. They may not have been popular, but forcing them out is neither in keeping with B-corp status, nor a sensible thing to do without having a replacement in place. Maybe Ian's role is more covered, but it looks pretty obvious that the stadium manager or whatever it's being called today has been a bit of a mistake.
You've said lots of times that everybody hates working under Fenty in that office, but that doesn't seem the case when three senior people leave shortly after he's gone. It actually suggests the opposite is true.
Hopefully it's a case of a new brush sweeps clean, but I'm skeptical that losing so many key figures in such a short space of time is the best way to bring about success in such a niche industry.
Quite embarrassing & frankly comical. Please furnish the thread with positive items the stadium manager has achieved? You seem obsessed with an existing organisation & cannot seem to accept change at all.
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With all these changes going on when can we expect to see new auditors ?
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“Lost a lot of knowledge in Nick Dale’
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The more you think about it, the more you can see why these people have been swept away, particularly Fleming.
I think Ginny said, they were part of the old regime and seemingly didn’t oppose it too much else they’d have left…so may be they needed to be gone…
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My thought is that many drifted along in their jobs, no motivation, no direction, no urgency to produce quality work etc. When the new regime came in and wanted them to step up and produce they were unable to, so they left or were moved out.
No evidence of this, just my opinion.
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My thought is that many drifted along in their jobs, no motivation, no direction, no urgency to produce quality work etc. When the new regime came in and wanted them to step up and produce they were unable to, so they left or were moved out.
No evidence of this, just my opinion.
I’d imagine there’s some truth in it somewhere… My question would be, if they thought Fenty was useless, particularly if you’re a ceo then you’d have a back bone and leave surely?
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Don't you start.
Well it does kinda make sense now.... definitely had some inside info, normally quite erudite in some of his statements, took everybody on at their own game and wasn't easily flustered....and he did say his time was coming to end before it was announced Fleming was going.... Coincidence, maybe, or my guess would be FN is IF or certainly a close member of his inner circle ..
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Everyone claims to be a "custodian" or similar phrase but many don't like to be told to move on, it's a blow to the pride for sure. Once the dust settles they'll probably think leaving is the best thing they ever did.
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