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I feel i might be in the minority, but i thought the better team lost.

We were in complete control, creating chances, passing and moving well. Scannell looking superb.
Such a blow to lose him, and JMD did nothing when he came on, his form is concerning..

But even so i didnt ever fear we’d lose, then the minute of madness, i dont know if Crocombe called for the ball, but waterfall putnit in his own net, then a minute later he drags down there big striker, no doubt its a red, just disaster. I was shellshocked

Second half we tried we battled but didnt really make the keeper make a save despite some nice play. 3rd goal killed the game but we got a deserved consolation

Ref was poor. Injury to Scannell is worrying, but lets just secure 6th and go from there

Apologies for my language on the match thread, was uncalled for

I get what the new owners are trying to do but the inflatable footballs in the stands just didn't work for me today.

Quoted from Hagrid

I feel i might be in the minority, but i thought the better team lost.

We were in complete control, creating chances, passing and moving well. Scannell looking superb.
Such a blow to lose him, and JMD did nothing when he came on, his form is concerning..

But even so i didnt ever fear we’d lose, then the minute of madness, i dont know if Crocombe called for the ball, but waterfall putnit in his own net, then a minute later he drags down there big striker, no doubt its a red, just disaster. I was shellshocked

Second half we tried we battled but didnt really make the keeper make a save despite some nice play. 3rd goal killed the game but we got a deserved consolation

Ref was poor. Injury to Scannell is worrying, but lets just secure 6th and go from there

Apologies for my language on the match thread, was uncalled for

JMD for me still doesn't look fit when u compare to a different athlete like Max Wright. Has ability but really does need to come back next season a bit lighter.

It would have been even worse if Chesterfield and Dagenham had not lost their games.

JMD blows hot and cold, like many players in this league. His main issue I think is his fitness, which is holding him/us back.

Just one of those days, although for all our possession their keeper didn't have much to do. Incredible one minute Woodgate by Waterfall. Other results went for us - Notts away is it?

Quoted from Meza

JMD for me still doesn't look fit when u compare to a different athlete like Max Wright. Has ability but really does need to come back next season a bit lighter.

Max Wright is hardly an athlete. Skinny whippet that is falling apart so much that he basically never plays. Never seen a muscle on him or a look that says athlete. Just a skeleton who can run fast.

Anyway complete disgrace and joke, can't see us putting in a performance against Boreham Wood if we make silly mistakes like today. Quite bored of paying good money to be humiliated against tiny clubs because the players make sure it happens. You give the players your support then they spit in your face season after season, don't know why it's so much to ask to put together a team that doesn't intercourse it up on purpose every season. New owners trying to make a difference, fans turning up in droves but then these idiots screw it up.

For 10 minutes, we looked as good as we have all season. Scanz injury and our spark disappeared although we continued to dominate.
Whilst everything didn’t always go his way, I thought Fox had a pretty decent game and would probably be my MoM with honourable mentions for Amos and Harry.

Quoted from Kris2

Max Wright is hardly an athlete. Skinny whippet that is falling apart so much that he basically never plays. Never seen a muscle on him or a look that says athlete. Just a skeleton who can run fast.

Anyway complete disgrace and joke, can't see us putting in a performance against Boreham Wood if we make silly mistakes like today. Quite bored of paying good money to be humiliated against tiny clubs because the players make sure it happens. You give the players your support then they spit in your face season after season, don't know why it's so much to ask to put together a team that doesn't intercourse it up on purpose every season. New owners trying to make a difference, fans turning up in droves but then these idiots screw it up.

Is this a wind up? Spit in your face, season after season? Have a listen to the Linwoid and Sweeney podcasts. PH simply doesn't accept players who don't work for him. How the hell have we earnt so many points after 85 mins??? Mistakes, yes. Lack of effort, no.

Quoted from Kris2

Max Wright is hardly an athlete. Skinny whippet that is falling apart so much that he basically never plays. Never seen a muscle on him or a look that says athlete. Just a skeleton who can run fast.

Anyway complete disgrace and joke, can't see us putting in a performance against Boreham Wood if we make silly mistakes like today. Quite bored of paying good money to be humiliated against tiny clubs because the players make sure it happens. You give the players your support then they spit in your face season after season, don't know why it's so much to ask to put together a team that doesn't intercourse it up on purpose every season. New owners trying to make a difference, fans turning up in droves but then these idiots screw it up.

That is wrong, he might have a slim frame but he’s quite muscular after clearly working his nuts off to make it in the game. He deserves a start now that Scannell is out.

Did the Scannell injury look bad? Is he likely to miss the play offs?

Did MacAtee come on?

Quoted from RonMariner

Did the Scannell injury look bad? Is he likely to miss the play offs?

Did Macattee come on?

If JT is correct that's the season done.

https://twitter.com/JohnTondeur/status/1522979938630086659

Early signs he’s ruptured his Achilles. sodomist!! Both for the team and him. He was playing really well, until that happened.

Gutted for the bloke.

Double double whammy.

Losing Scannell
Own goal
Red card
Converted pen.

After that we were still the better side, as we had been before the 2 minutes of madness, but all they had to do was sit tight and run down the clock, which they did with infuriating impunity. They created one chance in 90 mins and took it.

We kept trying and never gave up but the odds were too stacked against us.

Other results went our way thankfully and a point will do us, but that now gives Boreham Wood a slight sniff of nicking a spot. Don't know if that is good or bad, or how each team will approach the match. Just thankful we have the game in hand and another chance to cement our place in the top 7 on Tuesday.

Well in control and it just looked a matter of how many to me. Scannell was our best player then he got injured. Bizarre own goal from waterfall either a terrible lack of call from the goalkeeper or something but really a mess. A deserved sending off and after that we Huffed and puffed and. Plenty of gamesmanship from Maidenhead as you would expect
Still think we will make the playoffs with no trouble but it was interesting that this team were physically stronger than us and we struggled with the battles. On the positive side the Fox looked excellent, Harry and Amos did okay too. Hopefully back to winning ways against Borehamwood wood, My gut instinct is this team will not be good enough to win the playoffs

With McAtee, Efete and now Scannell, that's 3 players who can create stuff and score goals missing. Looks like Scannells' race is run for the season. Just hope we can get the other two on the pitch soon.

Could someone please clear up when it's a red and when it isn't.

My understanding is if you give a penalty away it's a booking because you still get a goal scoring opportunity from the spot. If you foul him outside the area and your the last man you have deliberately stopped him getting into the box then it's red.

I've seen it go both ways in different games and different refs.

Very confusing

Quoted from ginnywings

With McAtee, Efete and now Scannell, that's 3 players who can create stuff and score goals missing. Looks like Scannells' race is run for the season. Just hope we can get the other two on the pitch soon.

Its 3 good players missing at a pivotal time

I really liked the way Efete and Scans has been linking up and Scannell had the beating of them today before his injury

Think we need to get Raikhy and McAtee back fit sharpish.. strange game today they were on there holidays then suddenly found themselves 2-0 up..

Move on to Tuesday now hopefully put it right with a better performance.

If its in the box your the last man and don't attempt to play the ball its red, a slightly mistimed tackle is usually a yellow

Quoted from Meza

JMD for me still doesn't look fit when u compare to a different athlete like Max Wright. Has ability but really does need to come back next season a bit lighter.

For what JMD offered when he came on I’m amazed Sousa didn’t get the call as he’s fitter, works harder and has good application. I was disappointed to see Smith pushing JMD up the pitch with 10 minutes to go as it looked like he’d given up.

Quoted from HertsGTFC

For what JMD offered when he came on I’m amazed Sousa didn’t get the call as he’s fitter, works harder and has good application. I was disappointed to see Smith pushing JMD up the pitch with 10 minutes to go as it looked like he’d given up.

Sousa is fitter but doesn't have the end product. JMD is not fit, it's obvious, but he's more likely to do something. He brought a great save out of their keeper before the wheels fell off.

They were no threat at all until the sh1t hit the fan and JMD was the right call I thought.

As for the penalty, I think the original foul was outside the box from one viewing. Will have a look at the replay when it's out, not that it makes a difference now.

Quoted from Kris2

Max Wright is hardly an athlete. Skinny whippet that is falling apart so much that he basically never plays. Never seen a muscle on him or a look that says athlete. Just a skeleton who can run fast.

Anyway complete disgrace and joke, can't see us putting in a performance against Boreham Wood if we make silly mistakes like today. Quite bored of paying good money to be humiliated against tiny clubs because the players make sure it happens. You give the players your support then they spit in your face season after season, don't know why it's so much to ask to put together a team that doesn't intercourse it up on purpose every season. New owners trying to make a difference, fans turning up in droves but then these idiots screw it up.

Heres an idea how to save your hard earned cash. Stay at home and watch Four in a bed.

Quoted from chipsandgravy

Heres an idea how to save your hard earned cash. Stay at home and watch Four in a bed.

Eh four in a bed’s allright!! 😅

Abrahams is going to be a star player in the future - still young - try to sign him Paul. Gives his all.

Quoted from ginnywings

Sousa is fitter but doesn't have the end product. JMD is not fit, it's obvious, but he's more likely to do something. He brought a great save out of their keeper before the wheels fell off.

They were no threat at all until the sh1t hit the fan and JMD was the right call I thought.

As for the penalty, I think the original foul was outside the box from one viewing. Will have a look at the replay when it's out, not that it makes a difference now.

No doubting his quality at all but when you’re down to 10 work rate is really important. End product is certainly an issue for Sousa but since returning from injury it’s not been JMD’s best asset either. All that said I’d probably start him Tuesday as he needs to find form & fitness and he won’t do it on the bench.

Anyone else think that Taylor doesn’t do enough ? There was an excellent chance for him In the box (2nd half) but he waited instead of getting goal side of the keeper, he doesn’t seem to get in positions to Nick a goal (like Amond did) from what I’ve seen of him I’m not overly impressed with his play.

Strange game. Not too bothered about the result. The Scannell injury overshadowed the whole thing for me. Nobody does but he definitely didn’t deserve that. We’ve lost a cracking player for the end of the season, what a huge shame.

We’ll still make the playoffs albeit a tougher tie away from home now.

Just gutted for Scannell.

Missing 3 key players is very bad of course.  It stacks the odds more against us.

On a slight positive, Glasgow Rangers got to a European final with probably their best 3 players missing (their leading scorer,  Morelos, Kemar Roofe and Aaron Ramsey).

Excellent team spirit can help to compensate for key players missing.  

Quoted from chipsandgravy

Heres an idea how to save your hard earned cash. Stay at home and watch Four in a bed.

But not on your work devices.

Quoted from cmackenzie4

Anyone else think that Taylor doesn’t do enough ? There was an excellent chance for him In the box (2nd half) but he waited instead of getting goal side of the keeper, he doesn’t seem to get in positions to Nick a goal (like Amond did) from what I’ve seen of him I’m not overly impressed with his play.

No

Quoted from cmackenzie4

Anyone else think that Taylor doesn’t do enough ? There was an excellent chance for him In the box (2nd half) but he waited instead of getting goal side of the keeper, he doesn’t seem to get in positions to Nick a goal (like Amond did) from what I’ve seen of him I’m not overly impressed with his play.

Wow 😯

Quoted from cmackenzie4

Anyone else think that Taylor doesn’t do enough ? There was an excellent chance for him In the box (2nd half) but he waited instead of getting goal side of the keeper, he doesn’t seem to get in positions to Nick a goal (like Amond did) from what I’ve seen of him I’m not overly impressed with his play.

He’s a completely different player to Amond. A combination of Taylor and Amond in one player probably doesn’t exist below Championship level.

I actually think the pivotal moment was when Sanz went off as that killed the mood around the ground and seemed to deflate the players, if we’d have gone in at half time 1-0 down I’m sure we’d have got something from the game.

Some posters are saying we played well but I’m not sure about that but we certainly had more of the ball and at times used it well but at times squandered it. I know their keeper made a few saves but it’s not like it was the last charge of the Alamo or we peppered their goal, in reality for all the possession I was never convinced we’d score from open play.

We’ll get to the play offs but will need to improve massively if we’re not going to end the season away at Notts County. Big dilemma for Hurst will be how he fits Taylor, Abrahams & McAtee into the same starting line up as I believe he’ll have to.

Good time to get a wake up call? Or just our frailties exposed?

UTM!!

Quoted from HertsGTFC

I actually think the pivotal moment was when Sanz went off as that killed the mood around the ground and seemed to deflate the players, if we’d have gone in at half time 1-0 down I’m sure we’d have got something from the game.

Some posters are saying we played well but I’m not sure about that but we certainly had more of the ball and at times used it well but at times squandered it. I know their keeper made a few saves but it’s not like it was the last charge of the Alamo or we peppered their goal, in reality for all the possession I was never convinced we’d score from open play.

We’ll get to the play offs but will need to improve massively if we’re not going to end the season away at Notts County. Big dilemma for Hurst will be how he fits Taylor, Abrahams & McAtee into the same starting line up as I believe he’ll have to.

Good time to get a wake up call? Or just our frailties exposed?

UTM!!

Frailties exposed I think. The positive for me was Fox.

One of the weirdest games I’ve ever been to. We’ve absolutely dominated the game and ended up comfortably losing.

The Waterfall minute of madness was just that, madness. It was originally caused by Amos messing about and allowing them their first break into the box, after that it’s just madness from Waterfall, is that 5 OGs in the past 2 seasons? The pen wasn’t a pen but Waterfall has to just let him through, either he scores or misses but at least we have 11 men, we’d have pulled that 2-0 deficit today with 11 on the pitch.

Fox was outstanding and Abrahams put himself about but we just lacked a cutting edge/lucky bounce.

I’ve come out feeling at least entertained and it looks as if we’ll now still make the play-offs.

Quoted from pontoonlew

One of the weirdest games I’ve ever been to. We’ve absolutely dominated the game and ended up comfortably losing.

The Waterfall minute of madness was just that, madness. It was originally caused by Amos messing about and allowing them their first break into the box, after that it’s just madness from Waterfall, is that 5 OGs in the past 2 seasons? The pen wasn’t a pen but Waterfall has to just let him through, either he scores or misses but at least we have 11 men, we’d have pulled that 2-0 deficit today with 11 on the pitch.

Fox was outstanding and Abrahams put himself about but we just lacked a cutting edge/lucky bounce.

I’ve come out feeling at least entertained and it looks as if we’ll now still make the play-offs.

Those 2 minutes of madness started with them scoring from a throw in that wasn't even theirs. Then from an incorrect throw in we've ended up 2-0 down with a man sent off and 2 of our 3 subs used before 30 minutes had even been played.

Quoted from TownSNAFU5

Missing 3 key players is very bad of course.  It stacks the odds more against us.

On a slight positive, Glasgow Rangers got to a European final with probably their best 3 players missing (their leading scorer,  Morelos, Kemar Roofe and Aaron Ramsey).

Excellent team spirit can help to compensate for key players missing.  

Ramseys always injured!

Quoted from cmackenzie4

Anyone else think that Taylor doesn’t do enough ? There was an excellent chance for him In the box (2nd half) but he waited instead of getting goal side of the keeper, he doesn’t seem to get in positions to Nick a goal (like Amond did) from what I’ve seen of him I’m not overly impressed with his play.

Doesn’t do enough? He’s a class player for this level and rarely wastes a touch.

Crazy to lose 3-1 to a team that were totally outplayed.

Really feel for Scannell who was absolutely roasting his full back and was a real pleasure to watch until he went off. JMD did very little.

I thought Fox was absolutely outstanding, he is a very clever footballer and surely would be at a higher level if he could stay fit.  

We lost, but I can’t fault the players, Waterfall has been excellent this season and sometimes mad excrement happens. Hopefully we’ve got it out the way before the play offs.

Quoted from HertsGTFC

But not on your work devices.

You can always say you were looking at tractors.........

Quoted from Mandy Dunnit vs Hettie

Doesn’t do enough? He’s a class player for this level and rarely wastes a touch.

I feel that with Taylor his hold up play and awareness is above average for this level, but we don't really take enough advantage of it except when McAtee is in the side. My main criticism of him is that for a striker he doesn't score frequently enough - he's on 8 goals from 37 appearances (at a rate of 0.25 goals per 90 minutes). For a team that has as much possession and controls matches as frequently as we do that return is a little disappointing and I think we need a more prolific first choice striker next season if we want to finish higher up the league.

Quoted from RonMariner

You can always say you were looking at tractors.........

😂

I didn’t think it was that bad to be honest! In some ways quite similar to what we saw with the red for Stockport the other week as we looked far better than them up until that mad minute. That was an absolutely stinking minute for Waterfall - clearly in the wrong for the OG and a definite red (but not a penalty from the single view I have had of it). A previous Paul Hurst might have played it safe at that point but we gave it a good go and just after half time looked like we might be able to nick something before they started to really disrupt it (aided by a very weak ref). We only need a point from one game to confirm it but it’s almost certainly three games away from home to get promited now.

Great effort today after the madness, the different combinations of ten men still outworked and largely outplayed them.
Fox fantastic.
Waterfall....causes debate every week in my household, is he a warrior who puts everything in and throws his body in front of everything....or his he a ballwatching clumsy centre half who flatters to deceive ?   Today the latter.

Gutted to lose to such an awful team but largely down to one individuals errors rather than the rest of the team.

Disappointing but not down hearted.

Worried....yes......our policy this season of signing wingers with dubious records could be coming home to roost.

Qualify for an offs I think so......but we are limping in which is a worry

Pretty incredible to think that they didn't have a single player booked for time-wasting, but then that's what happens with weak referees. Not that it mattered much in the end, but I'm not sure how he only added 6 minutes stoppage time for that second half. Even ignoring the substitutions (they made 3, we made the one), the physios were on, what, half a dozen times during the half? The argy-bargy with their number 8 led to a couple of stoppages of a few minutes and there was much more as well.

Very bad news about Scannell, but none of us will be surprised that it's happened and I think that's the last we'll see of him in a Town shirt.

The fact that he's now gone, McAtee isn't fully fit and things aren't working for JMD at present makes me think we'll struggle in the play-offs (on the assumption we make them). None of the strikers are exactly in great goalscoring form, we're failing to put in telling passes or crosses when well-placed and we're otherwise lacking creativity and pace.

Added to that we've continued to concede stupid goals throughout the season.

I think we can beat anyone in this division on our day, but can we have three good days in a row? I hope so, but it is hope and not expectation.

Waterfall let’s that run and they score 2-0 down with 11 men we would have at least got a point from that game, probably won it. Silly from Luke bringing him down, keeper may have saved it but instead he gets sent off and we concede a pen and down to 10 for the rest of the match. They looked awful, but we played well even down to 10 but it was always going to be difficult. No waterfall for the last 2 games and the first playoff game is a big big big loss. Hopefully Shaun can step up.

Is the Waterfall sending off a 3 game ban?

Quoted from Wiley2405

Waterfall let’s that run and they score 2-0 down with 11 men we would have at least got a point from that game, probably won it. Silly from Luke bringing him down, keeper may have saved it but instead he gets sent off and we concede a pen and down to 10 for the rest of the match. They looked awful, but we played well even down to 10 but it was always going to be difficult. No waterfall for the last 2 games and the first playoff game is a big big big loss. Hopefully Shaun can step up.

Will only be a one game ban..

Quoted from Ashby mariner

Is the Waterfall sending off a 3 game ban?

No, you only get a 3 match ban if you get a straight red for violent conduct. A red card for denying a goalscoring opportunity is a 1 match ban.

Quoted from TwoLeftFeet

Will only be a one game ban..

Never realised that, good news.

Quoted from Chrisblor

No, you only get a 3 match ban if you get a straight red for violent conduct. A red card for denying a goalscoring opportunity is a 1 match ban.

I suppose on the plus side it gives Pearson a full match on Tuesday to help get his match fitness sharp for however much he is needed in the play offs.

I have said before that in my opinion we are an unbalanced team dependent on a few key players who are a cut above this level . Without Mcatee and Efete we are not the same side. The other thing that I can’t easily understand is new players particularly more creative frequently look good when they first arrive but then seem to go backwards JMD and Hoolghan being the most recent one examples. To progress in the play offs everything needs to be right which is looking like a big ask.

I think playing 3-4-2 after the sending off was the right plan, but didn’t agree with bringing Shaun on at that point, we could just have kept the 3 that were already on.  That would’ve meant still being able to utilise Croppers long flat throw, and still keep the option of 2 more (attacking) subs for the last 30 mins or so

Quoted from lee65

I think playing 3-4-2 after the sending off was the right plan, but didn’t agree with bringing Shaun on at that point, we could just have kept the 3 that were already on.  That would’ve meant still being able to utilise Croppers long flat throw, and still keep the option of 2 more (attacking) subs for the last 30 mins or so

But Smith was acting as a centre back cum right back. Could Cropper have done that dual role?

Having 2 recognised centre backs in a back three was the right call I reckon.

Possibly, but I'm not sure how well Smith would have coped with their big lump of a striker. He wasn't up to much as a player, but size and bulk are important and Hurst obviously thought Pearson would have the edge over him (as, indeed, he did).

I think the additional sub used certainly hurt us, however, as we could really have done with another pair of fresh legs in the later stages of the game.

Don’t expect too much.
Hopefully playoffs
Possibly best Notts
Anything else is unexpected
Top 3 in 2022/23 then maybe.

Quoted from golfer

Abrahams is going to be a star player in the future - still young - try to sign him Paul. Gives his all.

Not unless he learns how to anticipate where the ball is going to end up. Taylor flicked plenty of balls on today and Abraham was either on the back foot or running into the wrong space. Giving your all isn't enough.

McAtee he aint.

“On the back foot” is a good phrase re Abrams (and others) Ginny, when Taylor was holding the ball up, often while being pulled over by the shirt, he had nobody within 20 yards to lay it off too

Just one of those games. Crazy minute to put us 2-0 down with ten men after a good start and it was always going to be difficult from there with a team that were going to slow the game down and waste time but we tried.

Massive shame about the Scannell injury as that's another key player missing for us.

It was just a mad minuet or so.
It's gone so let's move on UTM

Quoted from TAGG

It was just a mad minuet or so.
It's gone so let's move on UTM

Indeed.

We are virtually certain now to be in the play offs and at the start of the season  most of us regarded that as constituting quite an achievement.

Obviously  a fully fit MacAtee, Efete, Scannell, and yes, Max Wright, would have made us a real threat. We don't have that, so it will be more of a struggle. But at the end of the day the 11 that go out there in these matches will give it their all and we still have a chance. We probably just need a bit more of the rub of the green to pull it off.    

Quoted from Mandy Dunnit vs Hettie

Doesn’t do enough? He’s a class player for this level and rarely wastes a touch.

He doesn't score enough.

Amos is vastly improved now that he has been told to get "nasty".

Firstly, I'm going to focus on the positives. Ben Fox was superb, not sure why it's taken so long for him to replace Jones. I thought we played as well as we have for weeks in all honesty, we didn't create very many chances but I was sitting there in absolute disbelief we were 2-0 down, we battered them. Was the most one sided 0-2 I'd seen at HT. We finally started a game well, Scanz was probably making a case for being the best player in the division, the goal felt like it was coming before he went off.

I'll turn to the negatives now. Firstly the OG, whether Crocombe shouted or not, seems like he did, it looked to me like Waterfall had a complete non-situation under control and Crocombe disconbobulated him by charging out. To happen twice in two games suggests an underlying communication issue that needs resolving now, as we'd likely have got six points from the last two games without it, not one and we'd be looking at home playoff game being pretty nailed on now.

We're still going to make the playoffs but we have virtually no chance of progressing to the final given Efete and Scannell are definitely injured and I have my doubts as to how fit McAtee will actually be when he plays. Throw in we have to win away at two sides who finished above us within three days and it gets very tough.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

He’s a completely different player to Amond. A combination of Taylor and Amond in one player probably doesn’t exist below Championship level.

Yes I totally get that, I understand Taylor is playing at this level for a reason but what I don’t see is him making himself available in the box (creating spaces) like Amond did, I thought that’s what strikers did, it’s obvious he doesn’t due to his lack of goals, he had an ideal chance yesterday to nip in front of a defender and keeper but didn’t, he just stood static when he could have clearly got that ball.

Quoted from cmackenzie4

Yes I totally get that, I understand Taylor is playing at this level for a reason but what I don’t see is him making himself available in the box (creating spaces) like Amond did, I thought that’s what strikers did, it’s obvious he doesn’t due to his lack of goals, he had an ideal chance yesterday to nip in front of a defender and keeper but didn’t, he just stood static when he could have clearly got that ball.

I think you are being incredibly harsh on Taylor who has been fantastic all season. I cannot recall the move you mention but there may be loads of reasons he didn't react. I have lost track of the goals he has created and helped to create with his brilliant hold up play and exquisite touches.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

I think you are being incredibly harsh on Taylor who has been fantastic all season. I cannot recall the move you mention but there may be loads of reasons he didn't react. I have lost track of the goals he has crated and helped to create with his brilliant hold up play and exquisite touches.

This.

He reminds me of Teddy Sheringham in how he plays. Not a prolific goalscorer but good in the air and always looking to bring others into play. One lay off yesterday from Taylor to Scannell was of a much higher level than National League.

One of them games. Sometimes just have to dust yourself down and accept it wasn't to be your day.

Scannell injury knackered everything up, completely feel for the lad. He was flying in those opening minutes and looked set to better them on his own.

JMD was maybe the right call as the sub and Hurst wasn't to know he would be needed as a wing back for a large period of the game. He looks unfit, lacking confidence and was pretty poor all round. Add the responsibility of covering the whole right flank and it's a recipe for disaster.

I've seen a lot of alternative substitutions and tactics suggested post Waterfall and I don't think there is a right or wrong one. Arguably I think we might have been better actually taking JMD off for Pearson, pushing Clifton inside and going 4-3-2.  No one out of position, retaining energy wide and in the middle.  Hindsight is bloody wonderful though isn't it?

A point from six gets us over the line but we need key players to start doing more. JMD doesn't look close to the player who hit the ground running and Holohan has looked well off the pace for a few weeks. McAtee aside I'm struggling to see anyone who's going to come in and really drag wins out of us.

Regards McAtee, he clearly can't be fit. Even at 3-0 that game was there for the taking, definitely at 2-0.  They were awful yet we just lacked a little edge. A fit McAtee on the pitch changes that game and I think Hurst knew it. Not a criticism either because I don't know who else you put on the bench.

I cannot remember him getting a header in the penalty area especially from corners - it seems to me the best man for headers from corners is Waterfall who really attacks the ball.

Quoted from golfer

Abrahams is going to be a star player in the future - still young - try to sign him Paul. Gives his all.

I remember another young player - Kayden Jackson -who most people on here thought was shite according to many posts - he went on to better things and he has similarities to Abrahams. Let's wait and see what happens in a couple of years.

Quoted from diehardmariner

One of them games. Sometimes just have to dust yourself down and accept it wasn't to be your day.

Scannell injury knackered everything up, completely feel for the lad. He was flying in those opening minutes and looked set to better them on his own.

JMD was maybe the right call as the sub and Hurst wasn't to know he would be needed as a wing back for a large period of the game. He looks unfit, lacking confidence and was pretty poor all round. Add the responsibility of covering the whole right flank and it's a recipe for disaster.

I've seen a lot of alternative substitutions and tactics suggested post Waterfall and I don't think there is a right or wrong one. Arguably I think we might have been better actually taking JMD off for Pearson, pushing Clifton inside and going 4-3-2.  No one out of position, retaining energy wide and in the middle.  Hindsight is bloody wonderful though isn't it?

A point from six gets us over the line but we need key players to start doing more. JMD doesn't look close to the player who hit the ground running and Holohan has looked well off the pace for a few weeks. McAtee aside I'm struggling to see anyone who's going to come in and really drag wins out of us.

Regards McAtee, he clearly can't be fit. Even at 3-0 that game was there for the taking, definitely at 2-0.  They were awful yet we just lacked a little edge. A fit McAtee on the pitch changes that game and I think Hurst knew it. Not a criticism either because I don't know who else you put on the bench.

Interesting take on taking JMD off but it's a huge insult to take off the sub, especially when he's been on 15 minutes. If he started instead of Scannell, then I think I agree with you but then the game doesn't play out like it did I guess. Personally, I still think we shouldn't have made a sub after the red.

Your McAtee point, the way the game was being played, they were 100% going to go all out to hurt him so it was absolutely the right thing to keep him off the pitch in my opinion.

Yep I agree, they’d have gone for Mcatee, wasn’t worth the risk…….

Agree on McAtee. We are in a good position now where we just need a point from two games (we probably won’t even need that) - absolutely no need to risk him.

Maidenhead seemed to have a real strange vendetta yesterday. I get they’ve upset us twice this season but there was no real anger at the result yesterday on our behalf so it seemed a bit misplaced and odd. They were as bad as anyone we’ve seen this season at BP so they can enjoy their spot in the lower half and we’ll carry on concentrating on promotion.

Quoted from quebec38

Agree on McAtee. We are in a good position now where we just need a point from two games (we probably won’t even need that) - absolutely no need to risk him.

Maidenhead seemed to have a real strange vendetta yesterday. I get they’ve upset us twice this season but there was no real anger at the result yesterday on our behalf so it seemed a bit misplaced and odd. They were as bad as anyone we’ve seen this season at BP so they can enjoy their spot in the lower half and we’ll carry on concentrating on promotion.

First half they were fine, second they turned very Bromley-esque.

Was just a very bizarre game of football

Think we will be k for qualifying for playoffs but not holding my breath.

Lost some confidence in last couple of games but it’s never over till it’s over….

I wasn't there yesterday but was at Maidenhead for the away game. I left that thinking 'how did we not beat them?'. It was very frustrating. So maybe it's a Maidenhead thing and they're a team we can't work out or don't have the players or style of play (or whatever) to beat them. Their league position doesn't lie.
I recall they had some big lads and were quite physical without being dirty.

Lost to a very poor team with 10 men .While Solihull were beating a good team with 10 men .Says it all about where we are in relation to possible play off opponents

Solihull were already two up when Osborne was sent off though.

Quoted from diehardmariner

I've seen a lot of alternative substitutions and tactics suggested post Waterfall and I don't think there is a right or wrong one. Arguably I think we might have been better actually taking JMD off for Pearson, pushing Clifton inside and going 4-3-2.  No one out of position, retaining energy wide and in the middle.  Hindsight is bloody wonderful though isn't it?

I did say at the time that JMD might go off for Pearson, as keeping Amos in the back three really reduced our attacking threat down the left. Would've been a tough decision as he hadn't been on the pitch long, but you need work-rate when it's 10 v 11 and that isn't his game.

Quoted from mimma

Solihull were already two up when Osborne was sent off though.

So that's Osborne's season finished then if they finish in the top 3. Straight red is 3 games, one league game left and potentially 2 play off games.

If they finish outside the top 3, he could have a play off final to look forward to.

Quoted from mimma

Solihull were already two up when Osborne was sent off though.

In a way that reinforces what I said .Solihull 2 up against a good side .Town 1 down to a poor side before the sending off .Think getting in the play offs first season back is as good as most of us expected .But the teams above us seem to be far better .Certainly Solihull gave us the run around home and away football wise