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GollyGTFC
June 21, 2022, 3:08pm

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The premier league, FA, big clubs and even people within the EFL.


The EFL are the 72 clubs. The people on the board and in power etc… are appointed directly or indirectly by the clubs. Which is why there will never be B teams in the league system.

The only people I’ve seen quoted as forwarding B teams are no longer involved in football administration are they?

Maybe concentrate on what’s coming. The PL are slowly working towards unpicking everything in Tracey Crouch’s report.

If her recommendations are fully implemented then we all get everything we want.

That’s my point. Don’t whine on about a battle from 2016 that was 90% won. More egregious things are coming around the corner. Maybe focus on opposing them?
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June 21, 2022, 3:15pm

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Are the two mutually exclusive?
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The EFL are meant to have the best interests of their 72 clubs at heart.

Each of those clubs is utterly dependent on fans, and I reckon the fans will be close to unanimous in rejecting U23 sides from joining any competition, let alone the league.

So, the reason why the EFL won't listen to the fans, and therefore their member clubs, is simple.

Money. Self-preservation. Greed.

It's at the top of the EFL, other institutions, the government and the media. People constantly protecting themselves by pursuing money and selling anyone that gets in their way down the river.

If left unchecked, this is exactly what the EFL will do to its clubs, if it means a small 'elite' group are able to profit further. Rich get richer, poor get poorer.

Of course it's fine to ask the questions. I've asked enough and I would never trust the EFL. I simply don't believe it has the best interests of its member clubs at heart. If it did, the B-teams thing would never have got off the ground.


The EFL do have the 72 clubs best interest at heart.

But the PL held a gun to everyone’s head in 2016 when negotiating solidarity payments. Are 24 L1 clubs going to reject £975,000 a year each from the PL and the L2 clubs £650,000 a year over the EFL Trophy.

Take a look at the accounts of clubs in L1 & L2. The clubs can’t afford to lose that sort of money and begrudgingly fell into line.

In a similar way that the Trust did when Fenty demanded £200,000 of shares. Nobody wanted to do it but enough weren’t willing to say “no” and face the potential consequences.
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June 21, 2022, 3:20pm

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Are the two mutually exclusive?


Yes.
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June 21, 2022, 5:38pm

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its an absolutely ridiculous, its a big fat NO from me.


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Where did this leap from Trophy and U21  teams to B teams in the future come from? Was it from some PL Blue Sky thinking paper, or an overactive conspiracy theory?


Greg dykes (fa chairman at the time) 4 point proposal of 2014 of which b teams was the main proposal. Efl chairman at the time Greg Clarke sat on the commission that proposed it. Allowing b teams into the trophy was a direct result of that.

https://www.theguardian.com/fo.....three-non-eu-players

https://www.independent.co.uk/.....bteams-10081423.html
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I notice that the Scottish Lowland Football League (one step below the Scottish Professional Football League) has had Rangers 'B' and Celtic 'B' teams playing in it during the last season. Reportedly, the SLFL themselves approached the Old Firm clubs to ask them to enter 'B' teams in their league.

I'd imagine they were thinking about getting some extra gate money in but they are at the start of a slippery slope. Yes, Scottish football is crap at the moment, but I suspect that Old Firm 'B' teams would be at Scottish Championship level of ability so I reckon with their toe in the door of their pyramid, it will only be a matter of time before they are in the SPFL itself.


This used to happen in England. During the 1960's I regularly used to watch Grimsby Town Reserves play in the old Midland League against teams like Goole Town and Belper.


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This used to happen in England. During the 1960's I regularly used to watch Grimsby Town Reserves play in the old Midland League against teams like Goole Town and Belper.


Grantham Town’s academy side are playing in the United Counties League Division 1 this season. Only 2 divisions below Grantham Town, Cleethorpes Town & Grimsby Borough in the Northern Premier League Division One East.
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Yes.


In what way?
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In what way?


Under 21 sides in the EFL Trophy was the consequence of PL solidarity payment negotiations and there being no sponsor for the EFL Trophy in place for the 2016/17 season. The PL had the EFL over a barrel.

That isn’t the case now. It’s the PL on the back foot trying to ridicule, water down and ultimately abandon the Tracey Crouch report. The threat of it has seen the greedy 6 and the other 14 reunite:

Which is why clubs like our in the EFL should be campaigning for full implementation of the Tracey Crouch report.

There’s zero capital to be gained from bringing up a fight from 2016 that was 90% won when the Tracey Crouch report would allow, if implemented, the EFL to tell the PL to **** off and throw the under 21 sides out of the EFL Trophy.

If you are going to try and kill a snake you don’t do it by targeting it’s tail.
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