Stockwood Update

Quoted from GtfcGarner

Instead of having Ryan Taylor less than 10 goals in the national league last year, Dani who had a barron spell at Boreham Wood and two loanees. Really pushing the boat out to challenges. Go get two strikers that have hit 10 consistently in the league last year who looked decent: Luke Norris for an example.

You should email that to the new head of recruitment, imagine that’s the kind of innovative idea lacking at the club.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

We all want the best for the club, and we can all see the reasoning behind what they are doing. The determination to harness the club and the area to create a community asset which will be the jewel in Grimsby's crown.

However, I thought they would have access to a rich vein of investment. We are not going to get anywhere without serious financial investment.  That is just a fact in professional football today.

The reality is that, commercially as well as domestically, times are hard. Things have gone so well for 18 months that it’s difficult to see things stall such as the training ground and I was surprised to hear JS say that they were going to fundraise to fund it.

I thought it strange that Matt Dean asked about back room staff leaving, JS wasn’t exactly likely to give out what is essentially confidential HR occurrences. Less surprising was the news that less people filled the Fan Survey in, it was unnecessarily long winded.

I’m hopeful rather than confident that we invest in the striking department, there was an element of getting excuses in early in that part of the interview.

All in all, I guess I’m a bit frustrated that we seem to have stalled a bit.

There’s a risk the season falls flat , and interest wains. A lot of good things being done - but that’s not to say supporters will just keep attending. Momentum is key - has to be some thing to keep the fans who’ve ‘bought into’ the new regime - the transfer window in January is always risky. But it’s important also. Has to be signs of progress into next season and building forwards, losing McAtee and the other striker nearing career end means have to address that position - and if it costs so be it. Loanees won’t cut it imho.

Also think Saturdays game is important for the aforementioned reason- a cup tie in January keeps interest going.

*devils advocate - club in a better position but have to keep improving on the pitch, it’s as imperative as off it. Mistake made by last person at the helm was to take fans for granted and just assume they’d be there. It’s no secret that football fans can be brilliant, and loyal. But there’s a number who are also fickle, and what with cost of living etc plenty will be making decisions themselves in May/June..some might have to justify the expense of a season ticket, and whether it’s money we’ll spent.

Quoted from ska face

Think it just completely backs up his point about wanting patience and realism that, within an hour, people are losing their minds about them not breaking their wage structure (not that they know what it is) for an as-yet-unidentified striker.

What would your solution be to bag an in demand striker that a lot of league 2 clubs will covet, bearing in mind they will not come for less money than others can offer?

If we stick rigidly to a wage structure even for the most important player in any team we will continue to have a much reduced chance of getting what we need.

Our income has been way above what they budgeted for and all I am asking is for some of that to be spent on a striker otherwise we will be disappointed again.

You’ve got no idea what they’re supposedly rigidly sticking to, nor what players are getting paid. Just seems daft to me that the knee-jerk reaction is always “pay more money” rather than, say, Hurst being less picky and looking for a unicorn every transfer window.

You hear all the time about how every player needs to have the right attitude and help old ladies across the road and all the rest of it, problem is we’ve got a squad full of Boy Scouts. Maybe there’s value in players who are a bit harder to manage? Maybe look at a way of playing that isn’t so defensive?

We had Jamille Matt on loan for a year, he scored 4 goals. The next season he scored 20, then 6, then 17 and 20. Maybe he was junk for us because of the way we were playing?

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

We all want the best for the club, and we can all see the reasoning behind what they are doing. The determination to harness the club and the area to create a community asset which will be the jewel in Grimsby's crown.

However, I thought they would have access to a rich vein of investment. We are not going to get anywhere without serious financial investment.  That is just a fact in professional football today.

There’s a book that is well researched and well written which argues the very opposite. What it does say, however, is that clubs which triangulate a healthy and positive culture, with vale for money wages and realistic ambition tend to succeed.

Spaffing cash on a striker isn’t prudent; he literally referenced a club that did just those things. Clubs with strikers know they’re currently a premium so players and clubs alike use that to their advantage.

Not entirely sure what people wanted him to say. We’re obviously a year or two further on in the club’s strategic plan than expected.

Just enjoy it, Christ, at least what he says is coherent, logical and not all about him…

Just throwing it out there…we literally smashed 9 goals against three teams that all spent considerably more than us, 11 if you count the two against Stockport and we left three behind.

It’s as if some cling to pessimism…

Quoted from aldi_01

There’s a book that is well researched and well written which argues the very opposite. What it does say, however, is that clubs which triangulate a healthy and positive culture, with vale for money wages and realistic ambition tend to succeed.

Spaffing cash on a striker isn’t prudent; he literally referenced a club that did just those things. Clubs with strikers know they’re currently a premium so players and clubs alike use that to their advantage.

Not entirely sure what people wanted him to say. We’re obviously a year or two further on in the club’s strategic plan than expected.

Just enjoy it, Christ, at least what he says is coherent, logical and not all about him…

The counter argument is that Grimsby is not high on the list of football destinations for life hungry twenty somethings whether we’re well run or otherwise. Add that to the undoubted cost of living pressures there’ll be come ST renewal time, it would be sad to see momentum lost.

Quoted from ska face

We had Jamille Matt on loan for a year, he scored 4 goals. The next season he scored 20, then 6, then 17 and 20. Maybe he was junk for us because of the way we were playing?

I think Jamille Matt's record in recent years suggests we had a good player on our books. Kayden Jackson is an interesting one too.

Exactly, and he came in relatively unfancied without any great fanfare after 3 league goals in 32 games for Blackpool. Not saying that relates to any of our players, but there will be players who, in the right system, can do well and may not need paying through the nose. We’ve spent most of the season playing a system built around 2 players who haven’t played a single minute together. Maybe that’s the big problem?