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Need more quality in ASAP. Heard that the new recruitment lad has identified new full-backs for the team as ours aren't good enough and Pauls been sitting on the fence about it... Both was V.Poor on boxing day.
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They weren’t very poor at all. Sure they weren’t perfect and maybe slips were costly, but you’re not going to get a flawless fullback! I thought Miche had a really good game and Amos was good going forward especially, causing a lot of problems. Both of our full backs were better than Harrogate’s and their right back was technically good (I think on loan from Hudds). I think a lot of talk here is really unrealistic in terms of players. Players at all levels right up to the very top will have flaws and make mistakes. I really feel, on balance, we’ve got good ones.
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Reliable source or pub conversation ?
GtfcGarner did well in last summer’s transfer window rumour thread, appears to be well-informed.
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HertsGTFC |
December 27, 2022, 1:29pm |
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GtfcGarner did well in last summer’s transfer window rumour thread, appears to be well-informed.
Let’s hope he has a striker tip off soon then 🤞
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December 27, 2022, 1:38pm |
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They weren’t very poor at all. Sure they weren’t perfect and maybe slips were costly, but you’re not going to get a flawless fullback! I thought Miche had a really good game and Amos was good going forward especially, causing a lot of problems. Both of our full backs were better than Harrogate’s and their right back was technically good (I think on loan from Hudds). I think a lot of talk here is really unrealistic in terms of players. Players at all levels right up to the very top will have flaws and make mistakes. I really feel, on balance, we’ve got good ones.
Efete was in dream land for the first marking no one and as the player at the back post he should have seen their unmarked scorer and he was just frigging weak for their second. Not the first time he switches off defending, he may look good going forward but his priority is to defend.
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December 27, 2022, 2:44pm |
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Overall, I thought we did not play badly at all. We were certainly the better team but defensive errors cost us. I have to say I did worry every time they went forward, one of those games were we never felt secure defensively. I never understand why managers don't make defensive subs when players are not playing well, think we should have seen Smith and Glennon on in the second half. However, unlike some others I thought our midfield was very good and had control of the game for long periods. Thought Green and Holohan had good games, but Clifton was my man of the match. He was everywhere, but I thought his quality on the ball was good as well. After some questioned if he was good enough for centre midfield, I think he now has to be first choice in that position. It helps we now have two hard working wingers who will track back so Clifton doesn't have to play wide. Kahn and Keirnan had good games as well for me, maybe more defensive than we would like but they contributed well. As for McAtee, probably the worst game I have seen him have, but as highlighted by others it is not his position. Nothing came off for him.
I went with my brother in law who played at a good level and he reckoned McAtee stood out a country mile as being better than any other player. Said his first touch was fantastic, his vision good and often a step ahead of others. He’s quite clearly not comfortable in that position, it’s a strange one because without anybody in front of him he struggles a bit pulling the trigger at the right time, he took shots when it wasn’t needed and messed up a couple of 1 v 1 opportunities (saved by Clifton for one). He shouldn’t have been put into the position of playing out of position and we lose a bit of him because of it. He’s the best player we’ve had in many many years, we can’t afford to waste the last few months of him purely because we’re not capable of signing a striker.
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December 27, 2022, 3:40pm |
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Main problem at about 70 mins we had 2 or 3 players looking a bit leggy especially McAtee, and the ball would not stick up front at all. You could see the equaliser coming for 10 mins before it did but as usual Hurst did nothing to change things till too late and then it just needed a bit of bad luck in added time to finish us off. Didn't think anyone played poorly but McAtee, Green and Kahn all needed replacing at 70 mins. I was really angry watching it unfold and knew what was going to happen. 3 points just tossed away.
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December 27, 2022, 5:14pm |
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Efete was in dream land for the first marking no one and as the player at the back post he should have seen their unmarked scorer and he was just frigging weak for their second. Not the first time he switches off defending, he may look good going forward but his priority is to defend.
IMHO you have highlighted one of Efetes' weaknesses, his tendancy to lose concentration when defending. He also gets caught out of position and ball watches, instead of man watching. Yes, he is athletic and can be effective in attack but his overall defending leaves a lot to be desired. I know this won't be a popular view but I also want a full back to be first and foremost a solid defender. He would be more effective as a wing-back in a back five but we don't play that formation.
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December 27, 2022, 5:19pm |
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I still don't see what Green offers if I'm being honest. He made a difference yesterday aerially but we might as well bring on an extra centre back for that job, they'd offer just as much technically. Halifax fans commented before that he's technically not the best and it's really showing.
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December 27, 2022, 5:20pm |
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IMHO you have highlighted one of Efetes' weaknesses, his tendancy to lose concentration when defending. He also gets caught out of position and ball watches, instead of man watching. Yes, he is athletic and can be effective in attack but his overall defending leaves a lot to be desired. I know this won't be a popular view but I also want a full back to be first and foremost a solid defender. He would be more effective as a wing-back in a back five but we don't play that formation.
Funny you say that, conversation with my lad yesterday we mentioned about going to a back 5, waterfall, maher and Smith as the 3 with glennon/amos as left wing backs and efete playing as a right wing back. I'm sure we did that at Stockport (more by luck the judgement though)and look how that turned out!.
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