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Always thought they were dodgy.
They will find ways to wriggle round it and any sentence will be suspended or they get a fine that means nothing to multi billionaires
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I look forward to this ending like the time they got banned from the Champions League. Why obey the rules, when you can just hire lawyers?
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Hopefully this will be a Glasgow Rangers punishment scenario and not a football version of Saracens. Relegated into a league they were always going to pi$$ in one season but farcically allowed to stay in European Cup.
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Grimsby v Man City League 2 play off final next season.
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It turns out that when Pep Fraudiola was moaning about needing more creativity in the summer of 2021, he wasn’t on about tapping up Grealish, he was on about his finance department.
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Always thought they were dodgy.
They will find ways to wriggle round it and any sentence will be suspended or they get a fine that means nothing to multi billionaires
Just because they have won 17 trophies since their takeover doesn't make them dodgy 🙄. I am sure once the independent commission have ....taken their commission.. then Man City will likely have very little to answer to and the Premier League will have little or no action to take...maybe even end up handing them a 10 point head start next season by way of apology. |
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Just because they have won 17 trophies since their takeover doesn't make them dodgy 🙄. I am sure once the independent commission have ....taken their commission..
then Man City will likely have very little to answer to and the Premier League will have little or no action to take...maybe even end up handing them a 10 point head start next season by way of apology.
And here is the team that will be forming the investigation committee
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There’s absolutely zero way City will face any actual repercussions from this. A suspended sentence at best.
They’ve clearly upset someone at the premier league though, hence why they’ve brought the charges but when you’re owned by an obscenely wealthy country I don’t think city will need to worry about the legal fees and representation.
Sadly, I don’t think they’ll be the only one…
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One of the sanctions, if found guilty, is relegation, relegation to where, wh6 should the EFL accept them, send them all the way to the Manchester Sunday league.
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Why have rules if you're not going to get punished for breaking them?
Sadly, that what i think will happen though.
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Hopefully this will be a Glasgow Rangers punishment scenario and not a football version of Saracens. Relegated into a league they were always going to pi$$ in one season but farcically allowed to stay in European Cup.
My favourite bit about the Saracens debacle was that the first charges were for older seasons, and they claimed to be doing no wrong since.....so then they were given an ultimatum of open your books for last season and this so we can assess them or accept relegation they just took the relegation option and kept the books out the spotlight! Obviously did a Juve and overturned a points deficit to pi$$ the league below and go straight back up like you said, not exactly justice done but at least something happened |
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There’s absolutely zero way City will face any actual repercussions from this. A suspended sentence at best.
They’ve clearly upset someone at the premier league though, hence why they’ve brought the charges but when you’re owned by an obscenely wealthy country I don’t think city will need to worry about the legal fees and representation.
Sadly, I don’t think they’ll be the only one…
It all feels a bit 'we can regulate ourselves, honest mr government white paper, we don't need an independent regulator - look we're even charging Man City with things' |
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One of the sanctions, if found guilty, is relegation, relegation to where, wh6 should the EFL accept them, send them all the way to the Manchester Sunday league.
It's actually expulsion from the league, it's not a given the EFL would have to accept City into that level of the pyramid |
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It's actually expulsion from the league, it's not a given the EFL would have to accept City into that level of the pyramid
It'll give scunny a nice away game in the National North next season at least |
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The investigation has been ongoing for some time but I think the timing of the announcement tells a lot. To me, it's like the PL are punching down that they don't need regulating and can regulate themselves.
In terms of City, they will probably get a fine that isn't really a punishment to their owners and may get a transfer embargo for a window or 2, which again, isn't really a punishment when they've got the players that they have.
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One of the sanctions, if found guilty, is relegation, relegation to where, wh6 should the EFL accept them, send them all the way to the Manchester Sunday league.
The EPL relegate 3 teams every year to the Championship so no reason why City can't be one of them. Relegation elsewhere would be more difficult. They'll probably get a points deduction just enough to avoid relegation IMHO, so would at least miss out on Europe for a year. |
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If the PL fail to pull City up, they really do open a can of worms for the future. It sets the precedent that you can ignore Financial Fair Play.
Even a minor fine or suspended sentence just sends the message to other clubs that you can flout the rules, with limited consequences.
I can see something like a 3 point deduction, which they take this season once the title race is done, dusted and out of their hands.
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It'll give scunny a nice away game in the National North next season at least
it'll only be Cyril and Enid there who've been supporting them since 1948. a bit like most Saturdays at Glanford Park |
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If the PL fail to pull City up, they really do open a can of worms for the future. It sets the precedent that you can ignore Financial Fair Play.
Even a minor fine or suspended sentence just sends the message to other clubs that you can flout the rules, with limited consequences.
I can see something like a 3 point deduction, which they take this season once the title race is done, dusted and out of their hands.
A fine, unless absolutely humongous, would be about as an effective deterrent as the fines doled out to the water companies dumping sh1t in our rivers and on our beaches… Send them to the level that AFC. Wimbledon had to come back from… |
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It is possible to want both an independent regulator, and to see City punished for their bent accounting (or cheating). The two are not mutually exclusive.
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Thing is.
It's 100 charges.
Teams have had points deductions for less than 10 charges.
Juventus got kicked out the league for far less.
Even if 50 if them stick ( which appears likely ) they would be kicked out the league.
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Well I think it’s wrong for fans to keep calling these accusations illegal, especially on the part of the media who have been very careful to avoid drawing themselves into libelling City
City have done nothing illegal nor are accused of anything that is actually by definition illegal. The only thing that City have done allegedly wrong is in the context of the UEFA/PL rulebook which actually has no place in law.
In law terms, the league have already made massive mistakes in not communicating and even changing the charges brought against City which was seen in that statement. This in real life and real law would be a case breaker in itself as you can't serve multiple charges and change them as you see fit to achieve a look in the media.
City will likely take the end result to a real court to not only attack any decision on competitive grounds but they'll also challenge the rulebook on common law grounds which is how they appealed the UEFA charges at CAS. UEFA had to tone down their FFP rules in direct response to these legal challenges.
Anyone who really thinks that UEFA or the EPL make these rules to ensure there is proper financial fair play are ridiculously mistaken. The rulebook was created as a form of control and to stifle the type of competition which threatens the established clubs because of the free market that clubs have to operate within.
The other clubs aren't rosy in comparison by any stretch because just look at the ownership models of the likes of United and Liverpool. They have ultimate parent companies registered in places like Delaware and the Cayman Islands... How many grass roots clubs benefit from United being registered in the Cayman Islands to avoid tax?
Financial fair play..... Really?
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Thing is.
It's 100 charges.
Teams have had points deductions for less than 10 charges.
Juventus got kicked out the league for far less.
Even if 50 if them stick ( which appears likely ) they would be kicked out the league.
Match fixing or bribing Refs …. really??? I suspect you haven’t read all 100 charges, some of them like the length of the grass are ridiculous. Lord Pannick KC who got Boris off re: Partygate will not have taken this case on if he thought he was going to lose it. His reputation would be in tatters! |
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Says a massive Imps Man City fan.
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Well said Norfolk Imp, someone who actually knows something about this scandalous state of affairs.
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