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We were in grave danger of going down when he arrived; we weren’t when he left. As I pointed out, what would have been Jolley’s last three games were all postponed; we were 14th on PPG.
Most Town managers in recent years have left us in a tangibly worse position that the one they inherited. Newell, Woods, Bignot, Slade, Holloway - and now likely Artell. Jolley’s reign as at least respectable for the most part.
Apparently not very well liked by some of the non playing staff and they were glad to see the back of him.
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I heard some of this guff around Jolley at a match this season. He kept us up, great, but he then assembled a god awful team and played some of the most turgid football I’ve ever watched at Grimsby.
I’m not linking this to Artell who I’ve said I think should go (although today was a better display) but let’s not reinvent Michael ‘ucking Jolley as some sort of savant
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We were in grave danger of going down when he arrived; we weren’t when he left. As I pointed out, what would have been Jolley’s last three games were all postponed; we were 14th on PPG.
Most Town managers in recent years have left us in a tangibly worse position that the one they inherited. Newell, Woods, Bignot, Slade, Holloway - and now likely Artell. Jolley’s reign as at least respectable for the most part.
Whilst I largely agree, Jolley also left some fundamental problems in the squad which left us like a boat starting to take on water. Matt Green and James Hanson were a year past their sell by date but on big contracts - impossible to move on but either injured or ineffective on the pitch. For that and other reasons I think our trajectory was already back downwards and I think he knew it too. His rant - in part was about funds - with a great escape on his CV, it wasn’t a bad time for him to leave reputationally,,, well, until the recording was “released.”
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thornemariner |
February 25, 2024, 8:06am |
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His record here was always streaky - flitting from unbeaten runs into winless ones. Ultimately, he left the club almost 3 weeks after his final game - he didn’t leave over results.
Agreed. We won 11 home league games in 2018-2019 and when was the last time we did that as a league club before then? We won 5 home games on the spin too. It might not have been great but home games weren't the trial that they are now. My friends and I started buying something in the club shop as a tradition after every home win then and have continued to do so. Needless to say my savings are building up. The downside that season had been another slow start which put paid to any hopes of a successful league campaign.
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I heard some of this guff around Jolley at a match this season. He kept us up, great, but he then assembled a god awful team and played some of the most turgid football I’ve ever watched at Grimsby.
I’m not linking this to Artell who I’ve said I think should go (although today was a better display) but let’s not reinvent Michael ‘ucking Jolley as some sort of savant
I think people forget just how bad the football was in the weeks before he was sacked. Aimless long balls to an ineffective forward line. He had one game where he mixed it up and put Ogbu up front with runners off him and we were ace, that was away at Exeter. I thought at the time he’s cracked it and then literally the next game he reverted to type. He made us solid enough, certainly more solid than we are now but his career since leaving here shows how good a manager he was.
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Nelly GTFC |
February 25, 2024, 9:18am |
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I like Radio Humberside including Matt Dean and John Tondeur, but it felt abit under the belt to put that into the open, journalists only really give a excrement about putting themselves into the spotlight and anything to get publicity no matter how positive or negative. I think the only real thing that got Jolley the sack, was him telling the truth how excrement the budget was, Darth Fenty probally hated Radio Humberside just as much as Jolley did. I know hundreds will disagree, but this is just me. I would not have sacked Bignot, Jolley or Hurst Mk II I think all three would have either done a better job eventually than for all their criticism and agreements at being sacked! Slade Mk II and Holloway were far far worse.
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February 25, 2024, 9:23am |
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I think people forget just how bad the football was in the weeks before he was sacked. Aimless long balls to an ineffective forward line. He had one game where he mixed it up and put Ogbu up front with runners off him and we were ace, that was away at Exeter. I thought at the time he’s cracked it and then literally the next game he reverted to type. He made us solid enough, certainly more solid than we are now but his career since leaving here shows how good a manager he was.
Aye the football under jolley at the end was truly painful to watch, so dull.
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HertsGTFC |
February 25, 2024, 9:35am |
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I like Radio Humberside including Matt Dean and John Tondeur, but it felt abit under the belt to put that into the open, journalists only really give a excrement about putting themselves into the spotlight and anything to get publicity no matter how positive or negative. I think the only real thing that got Jolley the sack, was him telling the truth how excrement the budget was, Darth Fenty probally hated Radio Humberside just as much as Jolley did. I know hundreds will disagree, but this is just me. I would not have sacked Bignot, Jolley or Hurst Mk II I think all three would have either done a better job eventually than for all their criticism and agreements at being sacked! Slade Mk II and Holloway were far far worse.
If someone spoke to say your mum, dad, wife, son, daughter in their workplace like Jolley did wouldn’t you want that out there? Thing is with Jolley his ego didn’t match his ability or through no fault of his own his budget.
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Nelly GTFC |
February 25, 2024, 9:37am |
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If someone spoke to say your mum, dad, wife, son, daughter in their workplace like Jolley did wouldn’t you want that out there?
Thing is with Jolley his ego didn’t match his ability or through no fault of his own his budget.
Yeah, a big big mistake Jolley doing that, I bet he regrets it bigtime. I can't remember off the top of my head where we were in the league at the time, somewhere mid table I think. Edit: The table was pretty tight to be fair >> https://www.11v11.com/league-tables/league-two/15-november-2019/
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jamesgtfc |
February 25, 2024, 10:22am |
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I like Radio Humberside including Matt Dean and John Tondeur, but it felt abit under the belt to put that into the open, journalists only really give a excrement about putting themselves into the spotlight and anything to get publicity no matter how positive or negative. I think the only real thing that got Jolley the sack, was him telling the truth how excrement the budget was, Darth Fenty probally hated Radio Humberside just as much as Jolley did. I know hundreds will disagree, but this is just me. I would not have sacked Bignot, Jolley or Hurst Mk II I think all three would have either done a better job eventually than for all their criticism and agreements at being sacked! Slade Mk II and Holloway were far far worse.
I'm pretty sure a club employee put the clip into the open.
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