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Oh Maringer, just seen your comment about the Arsenal player ! So perhaps it's not fair as I thought. Anyway let's just treat the initial point made as a "should Hurst trust youth to play or mainly develop them first" type thing...
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Sheesh Ryan Bird not even in the Portsmouth first team squad tonight, go get him Town, sod defenders.
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Sheesh Ryan Bird not even in the Portsmouth first team squad tonight, go get him Town, sod defenders.
I think we could get him on a seasons loan if we tried hard enough, As for a defender, there might not be anybody out there , In time for this week end anyway.
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How old was Conor Townsend when we threw him into the Town side? Don't think he had many professional appearances under his belt before we gave him a chance in our first team.
He was a bit scrawny but looked composed and assured when he played. It can't just be down Winfarrah's physique.
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Looking at soccerbase, Townsend would have been 18 and a half or thereabouts. One point to note is that he was making a debut 3 divisions below his club's level.
I'd be happy with Winfarrah playing on the left wing, but if they are only just now trying to convert him into a defender, he'll still have a lot to learn.
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It's not a tin pot League. Most of the clubs in the Conference National are full-time professional teams. A few smaller teams in here as well who have won promotion up from lower divisions and have earned their place in the same way that our relegation earned us a place here.
Completely fair, unless you think we're too 'massive' for the Conference.
I assume your comments about Arsenal are the lad at the back, Chambers. Looks a good young player and will probably be a future England international if his performances the last couple of games are anything to go by.
However, he's hardly wet behind the ears - he made 22 appearances for Southampton in the Premier League last season! Winfarrah has made a handful of appearances in the Conference and is a year and a half younger - there is absolutely no relevant comparison between the two players.
How can you say it is not tin pot? The clue is in the title 'NON LEAGUE' I think you are only saying it's not a tin pot league because we are in it, when we were a league club I never gave this league a 2nd thought, it was and still is a excrement NON LEAGUE for excrement clubs playing hoof it up dog excrement football. Are you sure most clubs in this league are full time or you just making it up to prove a point? I can't be arsed to check but I would of thought about 50/50 apologise if I'm wrong. As for the Arsenal lad he's hardly wet behind the ears as you put it because at some point his manager at Southampton as recognised his potential and given him a chance, at more or less the same age as Caine which is very relevant by comparison if you open your eyes. As Ive said earlier I fully expect Cain out on loan this season at probably Gainsborough or Boston if Hurst remains in charge.
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How old was Conor Townsend when we threw him into the Town side? Don't think he had many professional appearances under his belt before we gave him a chance in our first team.
He was a bit scrawny but looked composed and assured when he played. It can't just be down Winfarrah's physique.
Exactly! You can throw Bennett in there as we'll end of the day if they are good enough let them play, and don't use them as scapegoats to justify selecting favoured players.
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It's long been said that the Conference is basically equivalent to the 5th Division. From what I've seen since we were relegated, there isn't a great deal of difference between the standard of this division and the one above, though you are a little more likely to get a club such as Hyde crashing and burning here than in League Two.
A quick scan through the table and I reckon just over half of the team are full-time clubs at the moment (guesswork, admittedly). Still, it is needlessly insulting to the other teams (including the part-timers) as 'tin pot'. That's just the same thing we used to mock the Wednesday fans for their 'Massive' attitude.
If we make another couple of signings and have few injury problems, Winfarrah may well find himself out on loan at a lower division club. Rightly so, if he's not going to get many games here. I think it more likely that he'll appear here and there (probably in the Trophy matches) and only play more if he really proves himself in training and when he gets first team opportunities. His performance against Nuneaton was encouraging, early slip aside, but let's no go overboard about the lad.
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Exactly! You can throw Bennett in there as we'll end of the day if they are good enough let them play, and don't use them as scapegoats to justify selecting favoured players.
Why is Hurst assumed to be selecting favoured players? Winfarrah has made a handful of appearances, and Hurst obviously decided that an experienced professional such as McLaughlin would be the best choice for the game. Now, it might not have worked out as we hoped (due to a defensive error and a missed sitter), but there's no guarantee Winfarrah would have done any better! I wish the young lad well and wouldn't mind if he gets a chance here and there, but let's not make out that he's going to be the second coming! A lot of time for him to develop yet. One young player's development is not at the same rate as another. Rooney had the physique to play top division football at 16 - few others do. Similarly, Bennett was the exception rather than the rule and this is why he's now playing in the Premier League! Most young players don't make a real breakthrough in their teens.
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However, he's hardly wet behind the ears - he made 22 appearances for Southampton in the Premier League last season!
And they paid £16m for him!
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