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McKeown East Gowling Pearson Robertson Marshall Disley Clay Arnold Pittman Bogle
I'd prefer Toto in the back 4 but don't see a need to change it after Saturday. And I'd prefer Bogle & Amond up top but Pittman has scored a few goals so doesn't deserve dropping at this moment in time.
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McKeown East Pearson Gowling Robertson Marshall Clay Disley Arnold Bogle Amond
Wouldn't be against East at LB with Tait coming in at RB either though.
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I'd prefer Podge and Omar but think it would be a bit unfair on JP and not very likely either.
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East Pearson Gowling Robertson
Marshall Disley Clay Arnold
Pittman Bogle
Nsiala Tait Mackreth Amond Tomlinson.
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Forgot about Pittman! I'll put him in for Amond.
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East Pearson Gowling Robertson
Marshall Disley Clay Arnold
Pittman Bogle
Nsiala Tait Mackreth Amond Tomlinson.
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The team I would like to see: McKeown East Gowling Pearson Robertson Marshall Disley Clay Arnold Amond Bogle
The team I think PH will go with: McKeown East Gowling Pearson Robertson Arnold Disley Clay Monkhouse Pittman Bogle
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The team I would like to see: McKeown East Gowling Pearson Robertson Marshall Disley Clay Arnold Amond Bogle
The team I think PH will go with: McKeown East Gowling Pearson Robertson Arnold Disley Clay Monkhouse Pittman Bogle
I agree with all of that Pizza
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The midfield starters on the flanks are key. We need pace and determination to take on their fullbacks and to take the game to Gateshead. (As Marshall did on Sat when he came on).
Moving the ball sideways and without purpose going forward rarely hurts anyone.
Whoever starts up front, we still have another good striker to come on. As long as they have enough time to make an impact. I put Tomlinson as the fourth striker.
I hope that we get a much better ref.
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Play your best team Paul.
That would be my pick as well assuming all fully fit.
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My choice for tommorrow night would be.
Mckeown east gowling pearson tait marshall clay disley arnold ammond pittman
Pace and movement up front and from the flanks with possible overlapping full backs, an attacking team for a home match where 3 points are required.
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Mckeown East Pearson gowling tait marshall disley clay arnold bogle pittman
I would swap robertson with tait as i think robertson slows the play right down , pittman stays in as he is scoring goals so for that reason paul will probably drop him and keep tomlinson in.
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cant drop pittman with the form he is in, but Paul probably will!
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I'd like to go:
Mckeown East Toto Pearson Robertson Marshall Disley Clay Arnold JP Bogle
But Hursty will go with:
Mckeown East Gowling Pearson Robertson Mackreth Disley Clay Monkhouse Pittman Tomlinson
He'll say Arnold wasn't mentally ready and Jack MacKreeeeth played really well on Saturday and Monkhouse puts in a good shift and that JP and Tomlinson looked a good partnership. But Bogle is our best striker and Pittman is in great form, Tomlinson is no better than any of the other. He seems to run around a lot sliding into challenged which he will get sent off for eventually and when he gets the ball doesn't do anything. Toto is also a diffrent type of defender more athletic and better on the ball and Pearson is better than Gowling so therefore that is my partnership. Marshall looked very lively on Saturday and therefore desrves a start on Tuesday.
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I'd like to go:
Mckeown East Toto Pearson Robertson Marshall Disley Clay Arnold JP Bogle
But Hursty will go with:
Mckeown East Gowling Pearson Robertson Mackreth Disley Clay Monkhouse Pittman Tomlinson
He'll say Arnold wasn't mentally ready and Jack MacKreeeeth played really well on Saturday and Monkhouse puts in a good shift and that JP and Tomlinson looked a good partnership. But Bogle is our best striker and Pittman is in great form, Tomlinson is no better than any of the other. He seems to run around a lot sliding into challenged which he will get sent off for eventually and when he gets the ball doesn't do anything. Toto is also a diffrent type of defender more athletic and better on the ball and Pearson is better than Gowling so therefore that is my partnership. Marshall looked very lively on Saturday and therefore desrves a start on Tuesday.
Imo gowling has been our best defender this season by a mile mate. Cant look at dropping him.
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I would go for Arnold in for mackreth and Amond in for Tomlinson. I wouldn't be disappointed if Bogle played instead of Amond though. Other than that I would leave it.
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I would go for Arnold in for mackreth and Amond in for Tomlinson. I wouldn't be disappointed if Bogle played instead of Amond though. Other than that I would leave it.
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East Gowling Pearson Tait
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This is the best team for me!
I would play with a goalkeeper Chris, Macca for me.
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Assuming everyone is fit and available, I'd go for:
McKeown East Gowling Pearson Robertson Marshall Disley Clay Arnold Amond Pittman
Obviously, Toto could come in for Pearson without too many problems and I'd expect the wingers to swap sides now and again to mix things up.
I don't think Bogle is good enough at leading the line to play alongside Amond against the better teams in the division. Pittman isn't exactly ideal for the role himself but he can do a job there and challenges quite well aerially considering his relative lack of height. He's on a good run of form so ought to start.
If we are able to dominate possession in midfield and avoid playing it long too often, then Bogle and Amond could be effective together, but I'm not convinced we're good enough for this, even with the extra pace of Marshall and Arnold in the team. If Bogle plays, I'd like to see him passing and laying-off the ball first time much more often as he invariably takes a few touches every time he receives the ball. I personally think this is why he often finds himself surrounded by opposition defenders and struggling to keep the play going. If he learns to let the ball do more of the work, he'll undoubtedly get more chances to use his other abilities to better effect.
Unlike most, I think Tomlinson is a reasonable player at this level who has generally done OK when I've seen him play. Undoubtedly, not as much of a goal threat as the other strikers, but busier and better at working the opposition defenders than the rest. Buckley apparently agrees with this. I wouldn't be unhappy if he starts against Gateshead, providing everyone else puts in a good performance. If things aren't working out quite well enough, I hope Hurst will give his subs at least 30 minutes to make a difference.
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Assuming everyone is fit and available, I'd go for:
McKeown East Gowling Pearson Robertson Marshall Disley Clay Arnold Amond Pittman
Obviously, Toto could come in for Pearson without too many problems and I'd expect the wingers to swap sides now and again to mix things up.
I don't think Bogle is good enough at leading the line to play alongside Amond against the better teams in the division. Pittman isn't exactly ideal for the role himself but he can do a job there and challenges quite well aerially considering his relative lack of height. He's on a good run of form so ought to start.
If we are able to dominate possession in midfield and avoid playing it long too often, then Bogle and Amond could be effective together, but I'm not convinced we're good enough for this, even with the extra pace of Marshall and Arnold in the team. If Bogle plays, I'd like to see him passing and laying-off the ball first time much more often as he invariably takes a few touches every time he receives the ball. I personally think this is why he often finds himself surrounded by opposition defenders and struggling to keep the play going. If he learns to let the ball do more of the work, he'll undoubtedly get more chances to use his other abilities to better effect.
Unlike most, I think Tomlinson is a reasonable player at this level who has generally done OK when I've seen him play. Undoubtedly, not as much of a goal threat as the other strikers, but busier and better at working the opposition defenders than the rest. Buckley apparently agrees with this. I wouldn't be unhappy if he starts against Gateshead, providing everyone else puts in a good performance. If things aren't working out quite well enough, I hope Hurst will give his subs at least 30 minutes to make a difference.
If im being honest i dont think i have seen anyone work harder for the team than tomlinson, he certainly isnt one of them loans that doesnt give it everything, he does. But for me that isnt a big enough reason to keep imo your best strikers on the bench, amond and bogle have shown they can score goals, they both need to be in the team but as pittman has also taken his chance you cant drop him so tomlinson has to make way for one of them.
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A striker that works hard but does not score will not get you many points,
Strikers that score often however will get you plenty of points,
Which type of striker would you like ?
Plus I think Amond works his socks off and scores goals
Bogle just needs a bit of tuition but who do we have that can give him that. ?
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On Radio Humberside on Saturday Buckley was saying that Tomlinson had contributed much more than JPP. That was about 30 seconds before our goal though!
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East Gowling Pearson Tait
Marshall Clay Disley Arnold
Amond Bogle
This is the best team for me!
This for me with macca in goal Think Robertson has been poor tbh
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Just go for it, out scoring the opponents wins games, if things go mammaries up Hurst can always make one sub and switch it to 4-4-2.
Subs: Robertson, East, Mackreth, Monkhouse, Tomlinson
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East Gowling Pearson Robertson
Marshall Clay Disley Arnold
Bogle Amond
Play your best team Paul.
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No doubt that clown will probably put Arnold up top by himself in the hope of "containing" gateshead, because thats the sort of buffoon he is
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The team I would like to see: McKeown East Gowling Pearson Robertson Marshall Disley Clay Arnold Amond Bogle
The team I think PH will go with: McKeown East Gowling Pearson Robertson Arnold Disley Clay Monkhouse Pittman Bogle
I hope Marshall gets the nod ahead of Monkhouse(really liked the look of him and I can see now why so many were singing his praises pre season).Pittman did work hard in fairness to him against Forest Green and although it was the first I saw of Amond I wasnt overly impressed by what I saw(albeit he only had a 15 minute cameo roll against Forest Green).
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McKeown Toto Pearson Gowling Disley
Marshall Clay East Arnold Pittman Amond
Diz sit on front of the defense. Aronld given the run of the pitch. Wouldn't play Bogle, there's a player in there somewhere but not at the moment. Would play more narrow can't see the fixation in playing wingers.
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A striker that works hard but does not score will not get you many points,
Strikers that score often however will get you plenty of points,
Which type of striker would you like ?
Plus I think Amond works his socks off and scores goals
Bogle just needs a bit of tuition but who do we have that can give him that. ?
Tomlinson is busy like the person who's not here now , and was the first name on the team sheet . It's obvious that our manager likes this type of player. If we sign Tomlinson on a permanent basis then we know what we're in for . Personally I feel Pittman for all he gives the team hasn't found a suitable partner . Amond and Bogle for all their naivety they work together , and get goals . the more they are together the better they will become . Who knows what formation will be put out tonight , I give up guessing . What I do know is that it's annoying the paying fans , but who's bothered about us .
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McKeown Toto Pearson Gowling Disley
Marshall Clay East Arnold Pittman Amond
Diz sit on front of the defense. Aronld given the run of the pitch. Wouldn't play Bogle, there's a player in there somewhere but not at the moment. Would play more narrow can't see the fixation in playing wingers.
Stick to fifa, You genuinly expect a conferance team to pull off that formation?? Also, i dislike East on the left, he hates his left foot and often gets him in trouble.
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I genuinely have no idea what team he will pick. I know what I will pick and it certainly ain't the one PH is picking.
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All being well, I'd go with
McKeown East Gowling Pearson Robertson Marshall Disley Clay Arnold Amond Bogle
JP very unlucky to miss out, I think Amond is a clever player who can make things happen as well as score goals. Bogle is a machine, he has major weaknesses in his game, I fear learning lessons is one of them but he has such attributes that he must start. He's had his bollocking, move on and let him do what he is paid to do.
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The team I would like to see: McKeown East Gowling Pearson Robertson Marshall Disley Clay Arnold Amond Bogle
The team I think PH will go with: McKeown East Gowling Pearson Robertson Arnold Disley Clay Monkhouse Pittman Bogle
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In one of Hurst's recent post match press conferences, could have been after FGR, he said something along the lines of, "if the strikers keep scoring, I can't leave them out". With that in mind, Pittman must be a starter tonight. I actually prefer Bogle and Amond myself but if Hurst is true to his word, Pittman will be starting. In an interview with Pittman in the Telegraph, he sounds very upbeat and expects to be playing tonight. http://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.....95-detail/story.html
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In one of Hurst's recent post match press conferences, could have been after FGR, he said something along the lines of, "if the strikers keep scoring, I can't leave them out". With that in mind, Pittman must be a starter tonight. I actually prefer Bogle and Amond myself but if Hurst is true to his word, Pittman will be starting. In an interview with Pittman in the Telegraph, he sounds very upbeat and expects to be playing tonight. http://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.....95-detail/story.html
Who would you have a his partner ? Amond , similar player , Bogle not on same wave length, Tomlinson doesn't compliant his game . We need goal scorers on the pitch not sat on the bench . Play all 4 , we haven't tried that formation yet .
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I would go Amond and Pitman up front to start with tonight.
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Who would you have a his partner ? Amond , similar player , Bogle not on same wave length, Tomlinson doesn't compliant his game . We need goal scorers on the pitch not sat on the bench . Play all 4 , we haven't tried that formation yet .
Good question. To answer the question, who would I have, I would probably go for Bogle but then again I am not the Manager. Even when I played Subbuteo all those years ago, I never made a Substitution.......all the players looked the same anyway. Not sure what Hurst will do either, he has already made a few decisions this season that have surprised us. Taking my original post and turning it on its head, how can he play Tomlinson if his policy is score and you stay in the team.........although it's more likely to be score and you're definitely in next game, not scoring may mean you are out.
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Stick to fifa, You genuinly expect a conferance team to pull off that formation?? Also, i dislike East on the left, he hates his left foot and often gets him in trouble.
Well we're doing fookin great playing 4-4-2 like all on here want. All I'm saying is try 5 in midfield. FFS we are behind Lincoln so can't get much worse. They are pro footballers so should cope with any system.
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I cannot see him dropping Pittman as he is scoring each game and nearly scored before he did on Saturday. I hope he brings Ammond in (I have him as top scorer this season) or Bogle in as didnt think Tomlinson did a lot on Saturday. Whichever he does then I would like to see him bring in the other earlier, at half time, if its not working. I would also like to see Arnold start, I appreciate why he was left out but thought he looked dangerous on saturday when he came on. I have the feeling we will get a load of goals tonight.
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I think we are splitting hairs here, if we are serious title contenders then we should be winning tonight with any combination of strikers at our disposal.
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Well we're doing fookin great playing 4-4-2 like all on here want. All I'm saying is try 5 in midfield. FFS we are behind Lincoln so can't get much worse. They are pro footballers so should cope with any system.
Fair enough, didn't mean to come across as harsh. Just my opinion, Teams alot better than us struggle with 3 at the back and get it wrong. I'd quite like a 4-3-3 but every time i seem to recall us trying it (with different players to be fair) we end up losing our shape so often.
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Whoever mentioned about Robertson not having played well is spot on. A significant number of our goals conceded has come from crosses in from his side.
His lack of pace means that he struggles against a quick winger and Robertson really struggles to stop the crosses.
In some games he's got up the field to overlap Monkhouse, but he struggles to get a decent cross in a lot of the time. Most of the time, he's not able to get forward. Some would argue that it isn't a left back's priority to get up the field to attack but when you're playing Monkhouse (whose game is not to take on the opposing full back and whip a cross in) you have to have a left back that will run behind and whip a ball in.
Don't get me wrong, Monkhouse offers a lot but Hurst's tactic of lumping it to Monkhouse has become quite predictable and teams have dealt with our 'attacking' threat quite easily.
When this has happened, Hurst will er on the side of caution and leave it too late to make a change and doesn't allow enough time for subs to make an impact.
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Whacking it long towards Monkhouse isn't a bad tactic - providing it isn't our only one! He'll challenge well and win as many headers as he loses but if we play that ball every time it is all too predictable and gives the opposition too much time to organise themselves.
If Monkhouse is playing, we need to use the aerial ball to him more sparingly so it's either up to the midfield and forwards to show more for a pass to feet or start mixing it up by playing a ball over the top towards the corners for our forwards/wingers to run on to once in a while.
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Whoever mentioned about Robertson not having played well is spot on. A significant number of our goals conceded has come from crosses in from his side.
His lack of pace means that he struggles against a quick winger and Robertson really struggles to stop the crosses.
In some games he's got up the field to overlap Monkhouse, but he struggles to get a decent cross in a lot of the time. Most of the time, he's not able to get forward. Some would argue that it isn't a left back's priority to get up the field to attack but when you're playing Monkhouse (whose game is not to take on the opposing full back and whip a cross in) you have to have a left back that will run behind and whip a ball in.
Don't get me wrong, Monkhouse offers a lot but Hurst's tactic of lumping it to Monkhouse has become quite predictable and teams have dealt with our 'attacking' threat quite easily.
When this has happened, Hurst will er on the side of caution and leave it too late to make a change and doesn't allow enough time for subs to make an impact.
Spot on.
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Whoever mentioned about Robertson not having played well is spot on. A significant number of our goals conceded has come from crosses in from his side.
His lack of pace means that he struggles against a quick winger and Robertson really struggles to stop the crosses.
In some games he's got up the field to overlap Monkhouse, but he struggles to get a decent cross in a lot of the time. Most of the time, he's not able to get forward. Some would argue that it isn't a left back's priority to get up the field to attack but when you're playing Monkhouse (whose game is not to take on the opposing full back and whip a cross in) you have to have a left back that will run behind and whip a ball in.
Don't get me wrong, Monkhouse offers a lot but Hurst's tactic of lumping it to Monkhouse has become quite predictable and teams have dealt with our 'attacking' threat quite easily.
When this has happened, Hurst will er on the side of caution and leave it too late to make a change and doesn't allow enough time for subs to make an impact.
Monkhouse looked alot better with East playing behind him and Tait at rb, East loved the overlaps and still got back to cover
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I don't know where people get the idea from that lumping it up to Monkhouse is a tactic of ours?
I've not seen us doing this in open play. Only from goal kicks, when you've got to kick it up to someone, so why not Monkhouse (our strongest player in the air). I'd rather us play short from goal kicks and I think we do seem to try too quite often, but it's not always possible.
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Tommy it was done alot on saturday in open play mainly by the full backs.
Imo it was a tactic and creeping in more frequently lately.
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Tommy it was done alot on saturday in open play mainly by the full backs.
Imo it was a tactic and creeping in more frequently lately.
I actually feel its more of a get out, If our cbs or full backs feel pressured or dont have anybody to pass too they go to monkhouse. Now wether they do that because told or because they panick i have no idea.
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Good question.
To answer the question, who would I have, I would probably go for Bogle but then again I am not the Manager. Even when I played Subbuteo all those years ago, I never made a Substitution.......all the players looked the same anyway.
Not sure what Hurst will do either, he has already made a few decisions this season that have surprised us. Taking my original post and turning it on its head, how can he play Tomlinson if his policy is score and you stay in the team.........although it's more likely to be score and you're definitely in next game, not scoring may mean you are out.
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