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KingstonMariner
July 15, 2021, 3:42pm
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I played Sunday League with a young kid who was offered terms at Crewe (I lived close to Warrington at the time) and he told me he couldn't be bothered to get the train to Crewe which was around 20  mins away. I nearly offered to drive him there myself!

I wonder if he regrets it now.


Maybe with the abuse scandal there he might consider that he dodged a bullet.


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Its all about the mental discipline. If youve ever played the game Ginny at a competent level eg youth team or at professional academy  you will know  the pitfalls and the dog eat dog culture which exists . Likewise as a youngster which Rio Ferdinand was at the time eg 14 years old or there abouts his brain is still developing and the chances to slip away or be influenced by other distractions are plentiful.Likewise he didnt come from a affluent background but a council estate where the opportunity to slip up was possibly greater eg more drugs/crime for one. I for one have met youth team players who have slipped up and couldn't be bothered with all the pressures and subsequently released as their attitude wasn't right . Easier to go with your friends and drink a bit and chat up to the females and go parting than it is to go a long way into London on your own. I wouldnt knock Rio Ferdinand unless you was in his shoes. Easy to be sarcastic to something when your not experiencing football yourself in all its pain and glory as a football player especially in the professional realms.



Christ, you make it sound like he lived in an African village and had to walk 5 miles to the well and back every morning, instead of someone who lived in one of the most modern cities in the world with a first rate transport system.

I know people who get up every morning about 6 o'clock and travel for 2 hours to work and then the same back at the end of the day, 5 days a week.

When I was 15, I had to get the bus to work every morning and eventually bought a bike from Kays catalogue and biked there instead in all weathers for three years, to get my apprenticeship.

I'm sure there are thousands of footballers who did what Rio did, but never made the grade. That's the way of it.

He's hardly a martyr to the "pain and glory" of being a professional footballer, whatever the hell that means.
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July 15, 2021, 7:00pm
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He's hardly a martyr to the "pain and glory" of being a professional footballer, whatever the hell that means.
Thanks for your input and respect to what you done when you was 15 years old.

As for the martyr to the pain and glory  it means sacrificing things for the greater goal of becoming a professional footballer.To often as noted I've seen directly people who never made it at professional academy's  but had some ability but couldn't be bothered which is a huge shame eg talent wasted .


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What I love about football is the way it brings people together probably more than any other sport .


It did do while England were winning. But as soon as they lost............

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It did do while England were winning. But as soon as they lost............

I think things have improved a bit from years gone by  Ron  particularly in the 1980s when England had a hooligan problem especially when travelling abroad . When speaking to people overseas for example  there is still a stigma  attached to English fans though .


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It did do while England were winning. But as soon as they lost............



Yes Ron but the yobbery was happening before the game too. The Penalties just gave them added excuses.


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Can we get back to slagging off Payne …. .?


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Can we get back to slagging off Payne …. .?


Oh, with pleasure.
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Oh, with pleasure.


Let’s hope he gets a warm pontoon reception ….


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Let’s hope he gets a warm pontoon reception ….


He deserves nothing more than a warm hand on his entrance
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