Geordies killed in plane attack

The UK news is becoming more Americanised and it has been happening for years and, possibly decades.  Most Americans do not know what happens outside their own state let alone outside America.  When I see something on the TV or hear something on the radio I will always go and look for several sources of information, the problem is that 97 countries around the world have large controlling shareholders who are either family or government owned.  History enables you to almost get a clearer picture of what is actually happening and you only have to look at what has been happening in Ukraine with Russia and the USA's stance it has been taking.  I feel that this is ramping up to have American boots on the ground in the Ukraine and for us to possibly enter another cold war.

Nah, I don't think there is any chance of US troops entering the Ukraine (other than perhaps a handful of 'specialist observers'). There is no appetite for this sort of thing and the Russians simply wouldn't allow it either.

One of the great pluses of the BBC is that it is (theoretically at least) independent of the commercial interests that the other (generally right-wing) networks are based around. The BBC political and economic reporting has failed in their duty in recent years due to those in charge such as Nick Robinson, but I think the overseas reporting is still pretty independent and free of any great bias, though obviously it is as western-centric viewpoint.

On the other hand, the "Russia Today" has been set up by the Russian state and is sheer unabashed propaganda, often planting utterly false news stories which aim to help Russian interests.

I understand that the news reporting of Al Jazeera is actually quite decent as well though obviously this takes the Arab-centric view that you might expect.

Unfortunately, as long as you've got shits like Murdoch controlling much of the world's media, you aren't going to be able to believe everything you read or hear.

The worry is that the BBC has been kowtowing to the current government, losing much of its independence in the process, as many Conservatives want to see it defunded - the BBC is trying not to rock the boat. Hopefully the BBC will remain relatively independent because, as Fox News has shown in the US, commercial networks really don't have any interest in telling the truth if they can make more money pandering to their usual viewer base.

Strangely enough Al jazeer World news seems to be the most independent outlet of news without bias, BBC lefties and SKY plus most of the North American news media lean heavily to the right. We still need a pacy striker to give us confidence to p1ss this league

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Strangely enough Al jazeer World news seems to be the most independent outlet of news without bias, BBC lefties and SKY plus most of the North American news media lean heavily to the right. We still need a pacy striker to give us confidence to p1ss this league

FFS You have to bring GTFC and football back into this thread on a GTFC football site.  

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FFS You have to bring GTFC and football back into this thread on a GTFC football site.  

Was comparing Left and Right and thinking that we need someone to  operate down the middle

Sunderland fans have raised over £10k in memory of the 2 Newcastle fans who died.

It started off as a post on a Sunderland fans forum to try to raise enough money for a floral tribute and has spiraled into this incredible amount.

A brilliant effort by the Sunderland fans.

http://www.readytogo.net/smb/threads/floral-tribute-for-the-newcastle-lads.943399/

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The UK news is becoming more Americanised and it has been happening for years and, possibly decades.  Most Americans do not know what happens outside their own state let alone outside America.  When I see something on the TV or hear something on the radio I will always go and look for several sources of information, the problem is that 97 countries around the world have large controlling shareholders who are either family or government owned.  History enables you to almost get a clearer picture of what is actually happening and you only have to look at what has been happening in Ukraine with Russia and the USA's stance it has been taking.  I feel that this is ramping up to have American boots on the ground in the Ukraine and for us to possibly enter another cold war.

Nail on the head Marinerz93  excellent post. The F**king Yanks want a foothold in this area of Ukraine, they have been pouring Billions of Dollars into Ukraine, obviously to strengthen the Ukrainian Armoury to fight against the so called Pro Russian rebels. I  put nothing past Obama and his cronies, yes that includes our little american lap dog Cameron to have mastered this atrocity. Yes also Putin isn't squeaky clean I know. The truth will come out, just like it did regarding the plane that the Ukraine military shot down a few years ago, for a long while they denied any responsibility of that tragedy. This is supposed to be a democratic government in the Ukraine and they held a referendum in East Ukraine and 98% voted for an independent state (Donetsk peoples republic), so why has this murdering Bast@rd Porochenko turned on the people of that area, I'll tell you why, it's all down to money and the yanks hold the purse strings. There are protests all over the Ukraine now, which we never hear about, parents protesting against the government, they don't agree with the slaughter of innocent victims, men, women and children, that is happening every day in Eastern Ukraine. A family and their little girl of 5 was killed last week in a rocket attack that blasted their house apart, it was in a small village a mile from our Daughters house. The Ukrainian government claimed it was pilot error. I would call it Ethnic cleansing.

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[/b]Nah, I don't think there is any chance of US troops entering the Ukraine (other than perhaps a handful of 'specialist observers').[b] There is no appetite for this sort of thing and the Russians simply wouldn't allow it either.

One of the great pluses of the BBC is that it is (theoretically at least) independent of the commercial interests that the other (generally right-wing) networks are based around. The BBC political and economic reporting has failed in their duty in recent years due to those in charge such as Nick Robinson, but I think the overseas reporting is still pretty independent and free of any great bias, though obviously it is as western-centric viewpoint.

On the other hand, the "Russia Today" has been set up by the Russian state and is sheer unabashed propaganda, often planting utterly false news stories which aim to help Russian interests.

I understand that the news reporting of Al Jazeera is actually quite decent as well though obviously this takes the Arab-centric view that you might expect.

Unfortunately, as long as you've got shits like Murdoch controlling much of the world's media, you aren't going to be able to believe everything you read or hear.

The worry is that the BBC has been kowtowing to the current government, losing much of its independence in the process, as many Conservatives want to see it defunded - the BBC is trying not to rock the boat. Hopefully the BBC will remain relatively independent because, as Fox News has shown in the US, commercial networks really don't have any interest in telling the truth if they can make more money pandering to their usual viewer base.

Sorry Maringer but don't you think the yanks havn't already got troops in the Ukraine ? They are a bankrupt country and as such had no government military might, who do you think funds their weapons and teaches them how to use them. Definitely not Russia.

Bloody hell Grimal, you sound just like my mate who's always going on about the fascist junta in Kiev. I think the truth is a lot more complex than that.

A couple of people have mentioned Al Jazeera as being the most reliable on this issue - probably right in this case. RT is undoubtedly Putin's mouthpiece but does have some true stories that you don't get in western media (like the use by Ukrainians of cluster bombs in built up areas).

Someone else mentioned "lefties" at the BBC. I don't think it's lefties there that are the problem. It's the fact it's acting as the propaganda arm of the Foreign Office that is undermining its credibility. And as Maringer said, its running scared of losing its licence. Lefties would have been stronger on the "fascist putsch" in Kiev line.

I accept that the Schumacher story is of more interest to most saps in this country than ordinary working people getting blown up on their daily commute, but as a publicly funded public service broadcaster the BBC should operate to higher standards than this. It should tell people what's important rather than what they want to hear. Yes tat's elitist but it's supposed to be news not a branch of the entertainment industry.

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Bloody hell Grimal, you sound just like my mate who's always going on about the fascist junta in Kiev. I think the truth is a lot more complex than that.

A couple of people have mentioned Al Jazeera as being the most reliable on this issue - probably right in this case. RT is undoubtedly Putin's mouthpiece but does have some true stories that you don't get in western media (like the use by Ukrainians of cluster bombs in built up areas).

Someone else mentioned "lefties" at the BBC. I don't think it's lefties there that are the problem. It's the fact it's acting as the propaganda arm of the Foreign Office that is undermining its credibility. And as Maringer said, its running scared of losing its licence. Lefties would have been stronger on the "fascist putsch" in Kiev line.

I accept that the Schumacher story is of more interest to most saps in this country than ordinary working people getting blown up on their daily commute, but as a publicly funded public service broadcaster the BBC should operate to higher standards than this. It should tell people what's important rather than what they want to hear. Yes tat's elitist but it's supposed to be news not a branch of the entertainment industry.

That's one thing I've never understood with the BBC - who decides what stories to run?

In general I think they do have some good elements to their reporting compared to ITV & SKY but then their fawning over the Royal Family for example leaves me totally cold