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chaos33
October 3, 2015, 7:33pm
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Monkhouse is not shocking mate, he's a good footballer, but he doesn't earn his place on merit, and that's not his fault. Other players turn in an average or poor game or two - they will be replaced, but not him it seems. I know he and Hurst go back a way, but I don't think it's right for the team. Let's be fair though, he's not shocking is he. He's proven and he was playing really well early season.


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I do not hate Hurst nor do I love him,

He just keeps confusing me with his selections.


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Quoted from chaos33
Yeah I agree Barra and it does spoil the debate. However, I would say that an away game at Southport and a home game with FGR are very different challenges, and you'd expect the manager to pick and set up the side accordingly. I think it's an oversimplification when people talk about 'not changing a winning team'.

I agree with your comments on another thread about JPP - fully deserved to keep his place and proved that with another goal, but I am very frustrated by the selection of Tomlinson - a loan player that you could even argue we don't actually need ahead of Bogle or Amond, both of whom have been fantastic for us so far. And, the favouritism shown to Monkhouse (I know you don't agree), at the expense of Marshall or Arnold. I'm also pretty sick of late substitutions, especially when it's fairly evident that the original selection isn't quite working.
I do think that Hurst's pigheadedness and fundamentally cautious approach does cost us vital points at times. Just an opinion. Last week he got it right. Maybe today he didn't.


I think he may have selected Mackreth today for the better defensive cover he gives us to say, Marshall. I fully accept that doesn't explain why he played him last week as well!! As I said in the Just Back thread I'd play Marshall from the start against Gateshead for his attacking prowess although that will put more pressure on Disley and Clay to defend which may affect the service to whoever is picked to play up front. Who'd be a manager.


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October 3, 2015, 8:15pm
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The thing is, Hurst has changed a winning team before.

I was listening to Radio Humberside on the way to the game and Buckley was saying we should be playing our best team for a game against the team who are top of the league. Send your best team out and let them show you why that's your best team.


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Only reason why I can think of not starting Omar and Amond was resting them for Tuesday.Pitman done ok today and Tomlinson was a worker who in fairness did try to make some positive runs into their box.


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Yeah good points Barra. Given that Gateshead are likely to play Paddy left mid I'd be tempted to bring back Arnold for Mackreth and try to suck Paddy in to defending /helping his full back which is not really his game and nullifies his attacking threat. Gateshead aren't all that special defensively but can obviously score goals, so we'll need some sort of balance. Interesting to note that Aswad Thomas, playing at wing back scored for Dover against them today. They also have another very good midfield player in Josh Gillies. We can't afford to let them get on the ball in midfield and dictate play, especially as we lack that kind of a player in there ourselves.

Tempting to go Arnold and Marshall on both wings, but I suspect he'll stick with Monkhouse for his solidity and experience.
Whatever he does in midfield, I'd really like to see Bogle or Amond come in to partner JPP. Probably Bogle as I think he and JPP have looked very dangerous together previously.


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what is it with Hurst and his loanee's? He's like a big kid with his new toy when he gets one in, I thought the whole idea of a loan was to bring in as cover for positions we have been thin on like central midfield! After all, this according to Hurst is his strongest squad (says this every year) so why does he insist on dropping our best players for average at best players who can't even get in to their own teams, Tomilinson shouldn't of even made the bench today we have at least four players that should of been put before him, if I was Amound or Bogle today I'd be drunk of with Hurst it's disrespectful and disloyal to his own team.


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Quoted from jonnyboy82


Exactly.

Paul just cant win  


7 draws and 2 defeats in 14. So 5 wins. Almost right Jonny!

"Paul can't win enough" would be more correct.


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Quoted from chaos33
Yeah good points Barra. Given that Gateshead are likely to play Paddy left mid I'd be tempted to bring back Arnold for Mackreth and try to suck Paddy in to defending /helping his full back which is not really his game and nullifies his attacking threat. Gateshead aren't all that special defensively but can obviously score goals, so we'll need some sort of balance. Interesting to note that Aswad Thomas, playing in midfield scored for Dover against them today. They also have another very good midfield player in Josh Gillies, although not sure if he's fit. We can't afford to let them get on the ball in midfield and dictate play, especially as we lack that kind of a player in there ourselves.

Tempting to go Arnold and Marshall on both wings, but I suspect he'll stick with Monkhouse for his solidity and experience.
Whatever he does in midfield, I'd really like to see Bogle or Amond come in to partner JPP. Probably Bogle as I think he and JPP have looked very dangerous together previously.


JPP 3 goals in 4 games and popping up in the right places. Love Podge intelligent and hard working but Omar does worry defenders agree about Marshall and Arnold, Monkhouse is not a winger despite PH trying to convince us all he is and though Jack is a good lad who plays with a smile on his face and has a great rapport with the fans he could not cross a pools coupon at the moment.



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