Post-Doncaster- Artell: Sack or Keep?

Quoted from Poojah

There’s also a very big difference between “negative” comments and objective opinions endorsing change.

Artell is presiding over the most disastrous managerial spell in living memory, if not the history of the club. I would argue that suggesting that there is no other option than to stick with him is in and of itself profoundly negative.

I'm actually shocked that the board can, in any way, defend what's happening. The only reason can be that they can't afford to get rid of him.

Quoted from AncientExiledMariner

I would be very surprised if we aren't competitive in our next match. As is football.

Isn’t that what people were saying last week? And we got bent over by an exceptionally average Donny.

I think that statement from Stockwood is astonishing. Sitting on their hands whilst Rome burns. They’ve done some good things but also had a lot of football fortune in a short space of time. This is their first test and by the looks of it they’re just going to watch the ship sink. Extraordinary.

Quoted from AncientExiledMariner

The problem is, the poll just last week was a 50-50 split. A bad result against a rival and people lose their excrement. If it was against Morecambe, the response probably wouldn't be anywhere near as visceral. At the end of the day, it's a loss, and will likely be no different to any 1 - 0 loss.

I would be very surprised if we aren't competitive in our next match. As is football.

I respectfully disagree. People are losing their sh*t over the nature of the performance, another 5 goals shipped and 21 in 6 games. I couldn’t give a flying f*ck who we played, getting hammered 5~1 by a team in the relegation mire with us is bloody awful.

Sorry Jason - I’m not with you if you’re wanting to keep him on. I’ve dug in enough.

Quoted from AncientExiledMariner

The problem is, the poll just last week was a 50-50 split. A bad result against a rival and people lose their excrement. If it was against Morecambe, the response probably wouldn't be anywhere near as visceral. At the end of the day, it's a loss, and will likely be no different to any 1 - 0 loss.

I would be very surprised if we aren't competitive in our next match. As is football.

It’s not just a single, freak bad result, though, is it? That was Walsall on New Year’s Day, and no one wanted him sacked at that point. What then seemed like an aberration has simply become the norm.

In the last 6 games we have conceded a 21 goals, and picked up just 2 points. The theme is clear. We fundamentally lack organisation and the defensive system we are playing is disastrous. Teams just play through us. To suggest yesterday was no different to any run of the mill 0-1 defeat completely overlooks what is routinely happening on the pitch.

We have some huge games coming up. In the next 8, the only 2 that aren’t against top-half sides are those immediately behind us. If we lose to Forest Green and / or Sutton, we are toast. It’s absolutely pivotal that people recognise just how dire the situation is.

Quoted from LH

I can’t remember a more unanimous opinion across the entire fanbase than this. I suppose Holloway came close but he resigned and was partly Fenty regime collapse collateral too. Most managers have had a small percentage of backers even on the days they’ve been sacked.

I’m being pedantic but we need to keep perspective here: 35 votes is not representative of the entire fan base, it’s a very small fraction of them. It may be representative of the wider view but that can’t be proven by this poll.

Effectively 7pts clear with games in hand
Keep the faith  everyone...

Quoted from Poojah

It’s not just a single, freak bad result, though, is it? That was Walsall on New Year’s Day, and no one wanted him sacked at that point. What then seemed like an aberration has simply become the norm.

In the last 6 games we have conceded a 21 goals, and picked up just 2 points. The theme is clear. We fundamentally lack organisation and the defensive system we are playing is disastrous. Teams just play through us. To suggest yesterday was no different to any run of the mill 0-1 defeat completely overlooks what is routinely happening on the pitch.

We have some huge games coming up. In the next 8, the only 2 that aren’t against top-half sides are those immediately behind us. If we lose to Forest Green and / or Sutton, we are toast. It’s absolutely pivotal that people recognise just how dire the situation is.

No it's not every game. Before DA took over, we were losing EVERY game. You don't go from a team of losers to winning or drawing every game. Especially when you cannot change the full squad.

To put it into context, we lost 6-1 to Walsall, and I believe that was our worst defeat in something like 70 years, and but for the width of a post, that would have been repeated yesterday, merely weeks later.

I was also told last night that the 5-5 result was the only time we have had that score in our history, so we have had three exceptional results, mostly to our detriment in the space of a few weeks.

It just cannot be defended.

The only caveat I can add (and I am desperately searching for the tiniest glimmer of hope here) is that this is maybe what it is going to take to finally release us from the death spiral of the last 20 years, and indeed it is a case of it will get much worse before it gets better, and Artell is railing against two decades of entrenched apathy and underperformance, which will finally see us emerge into the light of progressive, attacking, winning football.

Nah! Me neither.