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HertsGTFC
March 30, 2024, 10:16pm

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All data is flawed. You can  interpret it any way you like, and the parameters for collecting it are either too narrow or too broad. I learned that aged 16 at College and have never forgotten it!



So you don’t actually know about what you’re denying has value.

Not sure what you did at college but all data isn’t flawed, I work with data most days & it’s essential to the sector I work in.

Four years ago data arguably saved a lot lives.


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Do you actually know how the data is actually utilised? You consistently seem very dismissive of that approach so clearly you have an informed view?


Perhaps the football league table,just saying.


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On a minor recruitment point, I am sure that Hurst said that he wanted Green as his number 1 target?
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Yeah it seems the summer recruitment was a shambles, but I don’t remember many on here saying that in July/August last year. The opposite in fact. People had us down as play off contenders due to our signings. Hindsight and all that.


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So you don’t actually know about what you’re denying has value.

Not sure what you did at college but I work with data most days & it’s incredibly useful to the sector I work in.

Four years ago data arguably saved a lot lives.


Four years ago data saved some lives  but because it didn’t take the wider picture into consideration (too narrow) it caused innumerable problems for the country the consequences of which will be with us for many years.

My anti data stance is just a personal quirk born out of experience but if other people feel differently that is no problem for me.
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March 30, 2024, 10:39pm

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Not sure it’s a vanity project for JS. I just think at the time he took over he felt the club was on the brink of disaster. He and AP probably thought with their means and the will to go in a different direction they could turn it around. Initially they were successful but as someone (ska?) described on here: they let PH become the lottery winning bin man and it’s snowballed from there. No idea what they see Artell doing from here (or even from a month or so ago) though.
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People are waking up to realise we have been conned on a massive scale. I sincerely believe this was a vanity project by  Stockwood from the outset,it has badly misfired on him .I realise it's not a comfortable feeling to realise that you have been conned ,but there you have it.


I think conned is harsh

They have the clubs best interests at heart , and won't put it into danger which is a minimum requirement really .

The only thing that's dissapointed me is their wilingness or ability to attract heavy inward  investment seeing as they are either unwilling/can't fund the club to anything above the level of sustainability/treading water in league 2 .

The club probably now looks an even less decent proposition to invest in than one that had a miracle run through the NL play-offs and a glorious run to an FA cup quarter final .
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I think conned is harsh

They have the clubs best interests at heart , and won't put it into danger which is a minimum requirement really .

The only thing that's dissapointed me is their wilingness or ability to attract heavy inward  investment seeing as they are either unwilling/can't fund the club to anything above the level of sustainability/treading water in league 2 .

The club probably now looks an even less decent proposition to invest in than one that had a miracle run through the NL play-offs and a glorious run to an FA cup quarter final .


They deserve more respect than some people are giving them. They’re Town supporters who came in when it was looking pretty broken.

Vanity project? More like sympathy case as to be honest in reality the likelihood of them seeing any return on the money they’ve put in is remote. That is where the issue is as unless you’re an equally dedicated Town supporter with a few quid in the bank you wouldn’t look at investing I. Our club.



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They deserve more respect than some people are giving them. They’re Town supporters who came in when it was looking pretty broken.

Vanity project? More like sympathy case as to be honest in reality the likelihood of them seeing any return on the money they’ve put in is remote. That is where the issue is as unless you’re an equally dedicated Town supporter with a few quid in the bank you wouldn’t look at investing I. Our club.



I agree Herts
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Four years ago data saved some lives  but because it didn’t take the wider picture into consideration (too narrow) it caused innumerable problems for the country the consequences of which will be with us for many years.


Nope. The data regarding the need for lockdown was straightforward. Anything else was the failing of government. And let's face it, they failed a lot.

As for data, it is just information. What is relevant is how it is analysed and used. You don't apparently think that proper analysis is possible in some fields, but that's not what the pretty much all of the richest and most successful football clubs in the country believe.
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