Hurst takes a swipe at fans

Quoted from MeanwoodMariner

No, it's "fewer" if the thing in question is countable, which in this case it is. Whether a number happened to be mentioned in the sentence is not relevant here. Use "less" when the thing is not countable, eg water or money.

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Quoted from Maringer

Interesting answer. Did you perhaps misread my question? I'm sure I didn't ask anything about the manager.

If the manager had gone, LJL might have gone too and Jennings, Rodman and others might have signed.

I clearly thought Peacock offered more to be team than others, but hey ho. What irks me is the attitude from Hurst that he knows better than those who pay his wages. This May or may not be the case, but at least show a bit of grace man you'd be better not saying anything.

Quoted from Maringer

LJL doesn't have a terrible first touch. Full stop.

He's no Gianfranco Zola, but don't try to make out he can't control the ball because it's not true. He's a 5th division striker with reasonable ball control for this level but his weakness is that he's not a natural goalscorer. As is often said, if he was, he wouldn't be playing for us.

His first touch is a damn sight better than that of Cook whose departure led to much wailing and gnashing of teeth amongst some on this board, even though he'd been throughly disappointing in 90+% of his performances last season and disappointing in many performances the previous season as well.

The only obsession with LJL I see seems to be amongst certain posters on this board who blame him for every failing of the team (yep, football is a team game you know), whether he has had a decent game or not. His selection for the team also provides some with a useful axe to grind about their current dislike for the manager.

Seriously, we've had 2 fit strikers available this season (though Connell isn't match fit and LJL has apparently been playing with some kind of a stomach problem), and they've unsurprisingly played in all 3 games. The way some are going on about things on this board at the moment, you'd expect them to insist that we should have played Connell up front on his own to improve the team. Which is, of course, idiotic.

So come on, the critics. What would you have done differently this season with the players available?

Often said, always wrong. It's such a lazy thing to say it's unbeliveable. He is poor in the air, he doesn't get a lot of assists and his balls are often won by barging into people. His touch is actually pretty poor and his distribution isn't much to write home about either. He's a nuisance, pure nuisance who defenders don't like playing against. But that doesn't warrant him a full season and adding goals to his game (just some) wouldn't get him a League 1 club like people keep telling themselves.

He'd be brilliant to bring of the bench, absolutely brilliant and maybe some games we could do with him starting. But he's had so many chances, this isn't victimisation. It's not his fault he starts every week but from the whole squad if you could say one player who didn't deserve a start every week who got one, it would be him.

As has been mentioned, you are speaking as though we signed him 3 games ago and he was the only option. This whole thing stems back over a year now, people are just too short sighted to realise that.

Quoted from pontoonlew

I've seen plenty of people moaning about other players during Hursts reign and he's not come out to defend one of them. I mention it a lot but Hurst's favoritism of LJL was summed up after his actions when people moaned about him taking a penalty, he was raging that people had groaned. He probably had a point, though he really went overboard with his defense of LJL that night.

2 weeks later he publically calls out Cook for missing the sort of chance LJL has spent his entire career doing. And then people why Cooks head went?

I can see why LJL is at the club, I really can. But Hurst has got to let this go now, show he can be versatile and is willing to drop players who aren't performing, ALL players should be under the impression they are not guaranteed a start. I don't think LJL is, I think Hurst will change the name of the Stadium for good luck before he'll accept LJL maybe shouldn't be starting every week. Eventually if his persistance doesn't pay off (he's be trying to make LJL work for over a year now) then it will cost him his job.

I suspect Hurst would probably want to "let this go" but as a manager charged with looking after the welfare of the staff under him he obviously feels the need to defend LJL (and probably himself) against some pretty relentless criticism. It might help if you and your band of brothers-some of whom seem to have based their opinion on what others say on here having not actually witnessed his performances- "let it go" and accepted that in Paul Hurst's eyes (the only ones that really matter) LJL is worth his place in the team. All this continued reference to "favourites" smacks of the school playground. In just about any other environment I can think of it would be construed as bullying. It is certainly scapegoating of the lowest form...

Quoted from MuddyWaters

The swipe missed because a lot of the 'managers in the stand' are actually managers on a keyboard because they're fed up of not being entertained for their £20 + travel + drinks etc. The irony is that he is causing this not just with his obsession with LJL but also saying one thing in the press and then doing something different like praising Winfarrah one minute then playing someone out of position in front of him the next.

Pete says he can't win - the truth is he can, with a positive attitude, a winning mentality and the proper motivation of what looks, on paper, like a decent squad. The way he'll lose is by alienating the fan base with negative football, poor results and his current miserable attitude. What he needs to remember is that by entertaining the fans with good results, he will put bums on seats and that will not only be good for the club in the short term but will also improve the prospect of a move to a new ground.

Can you do something about your obsession with "Alienating the fan base". Your self appointment as spokesperson for the fan base is laughable. Anybody visiting this website would think that gates were dropping like a stone. The Fishy probably has about 300 members who post regularly and not even all of those share your jaundiced views. The vast majority of Town's fan base don't come anywhere near The Fishy...

Quoted from MuddyWaters

If the manager had gone, LJL might have gone too and Jennings, Rodman and others might have signed.

Jesus wept....keep digging!

and had Hurst gone Toto might not have signed and Pearson might have indicated he wanted to leave and Macca might not have committed himself for a further spell. All of these are improbable but certainly as plausible as this thread of argument...

Quoted from barralad

I suspect Hurst would probably want to "let this go" but as a manager charged with looking after the welfare of the staff under him he obviously feels the need to defend LJL (and probably himself) against some pretty relentless criticism. It might help if you and your band of brothers-some of whom seem to have based their opinion on what others say on here having not actually witnessed his performances- "let it go" and accepted that in Paul Hurst's eyes (the only ones that really matter) LJL is worth his place in the team. All this continued reference to "favourites" smacks of the school playground. In just about any other environment I can think of it would be construed as bullying. It is certainly scapegoating of the lowest form...

You are a classic example of a person who is so narrow minded that they're not able to accept there might actually be a problem. 25 goals in 23 goals for a side who should be trying for a title is not good enough but you seem happy to accept that 'Hurst is in charge i'll support all his decisions'. It's a forum, people have opinions and if Hurst isn't doing the business then this is the place people will vent their frustrations. If people are paying for watch a match they are entitled to come on a message board and say what they like.

You are also a classic example of people who think anybody who questions LJL's place in the team is 'relentlessly criticising' or 'Bullying' (I cannot quite describe to you how pathetic you sound saying that). You are making that up in your head, go and actually READ the posts. As often said, Lenny has a place in this squad but I do not feel he has earned a place in the starting 11 and I feel Hurst had him in mind when he failed to get a goalscorer in. I feel better players than LJL have been dropped (and in fact let go from the club) and I can't help thinking that's down to Hurst's tinted view of LJL. Perhaps he does just rate LJL but how long does it need to go on with the team turning in under par performances with a distinct lack of goals before he swallows his pride and TRIED something new?

It's a messageboard Barralad and people pay very very good money to watch the football produced. If they support the side at the game and come on here & feel something isn't right, they are 100% entitled to that opinion.

Quoted from barralad

Can you do something about your obsession with "Alienating the fan base". Your self appointment as spokesperson for the fan base is laughable. Anybody visiting this website would think that gates were dropping like a stone. The Fishy probably has about 300 members who post regularly and not even all of those share your jaundiced views. The vast majority of Town's fan base don't come anywhere near The Fishy...

I don't and never have seen myself as representative of any clique or faction. I just have a belief, shared by several on here, that the club is not yet capable of getting out of this league.

What is noticeable is your obsession with retaliating to almost every post I make on here whilst ignoring others that make similar points. You state 300 members, well over 600 have voted on the PH in or out poll, of which 73% (last time I looked) voted out. So perhaps my views are shared by more than you prefer to admit.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

I don't and never have seen myself as representative of any clique or faction. I just have a belief, shared by several on here, that the club is not yet capable of getting out of this league.

What is noticeable is your obsession with retaliating to almost every post I make on here whilst ignoring others that make similar points. You state 300 members, well over 600 have voted on the PH in or out poll, of which 73% (last time I looked) voted out. So perhaps my views are shared by more than you prefer to admit.

I don't have the time or inclination to reply to all of your contributions.  73% of 600-ish still represents a small proportion of Town's "Fan Base"....